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Ash Rose posted:3015, glad to see more stuff taking place in the succession wars and not Clan invasion. Also wonder how they are going to bleed whales with a standalone game, other than like an expensive collectors edition. Crossover DLC packs. I could give a long list of revenue possibilities really. Pre-order this mech pack for MWO and also get a chassis unlock for MW:5 if you collect the special blinky thing on Mission 2. Buy this DLC pack for MW:5 and get a decal unlock for MWO. etc etc A lot of meta stuff goes out the window in a MW:Mercs environment because sourcing replacement clan lasers as a merc is going to be loving hard & expensive. You'd want IS tech just to keep your budget under control. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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That MW:5 trailer is much more of a tech demo than anything guys. Sure, it looks and sounds real pretty, but we didn't really see anything at all in it. Most of the 'mech-scale assets existed already and were probably ported over directly from MWO (or at least mostly and then tweaked to look a bit better), and the addition of an on-foot component makes me really, really pessimistic. Also it's  so it'll almost certainly be awful. At least we have HBS holding the torch.Is there a rundown anywhere of the changes to MWO in a nice concise bullet-point format? Looking forward to seeing how they gently caress it up now in some effort to try to shakeup their player numbers a bit.
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Guys I found the video of Mechwarrior 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJU4iA4TWIs
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Commoners posted:Yeah, but its cockpit is low on the body and it is extremely wide, so people are able to see it rounding a corner or coming up over a hill before it is able to see or shoot them. They're also extremely wide on the mech, so you have to fully expose your wide, wide body to bring all your firepower to bear if you're rounding a corner. Based on a year and a loving half of Phract madness in the pre-quirk, pre-Clan days, I can assure you that none of this is actually true. The cockpit isn't THAT low, and the 3D was always excellent at shooting over or around things. It was always dominant, while Jagers suffered from both their lack of JJs and relative fragility due to the high arms.
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Drone posted:That MW:5 trailer is much more of a tech demo than anything guys. Sure, it looks and sounds real pretty, but we didn't really see anything at all in it. Most of the 'mech-scale assets existed already and were probably ported over directly from MWO (or at least mostly and then tweaked to look a bit better), and the addition of an on-foot component makes me really, really pessimistic. The map is clearly tiny and a lot of the video is taken up with pre-baked animation, but equally it was apparently being played live at the event, so the game at least functions on a basic level, the mechs are pilotable and shoot, there is rudimentary ai, etc.
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Cease to Hope posted:Based on a year and a loving half of Phract madness in the pre-quirk, pre-Clan days, I can assure you that none of this is actually true. The cockpit isn't THAT low, and the 3D was always excellent at shooting over or around things. It was always dominant, while Jagers suffered from both their lack of JJs and relative fragility due to the high arms. Yeah, but the cataphract being dominant was because it had the hard points to pile on gauss and ppcs while having jump jets in the poptart meta. Jump jets aren't the death machine makers that they previously were, gauss isn't an instashot anymore, and ppcs just exist as they do. The current meta is just plain hill humping with jump jets used every now and then for trick shots and mobility.
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I mostly like what I see. I'm mad they didn't have a player model ready to grab the hatch, open, walk inside, sit and close the hatch. The actual fight with the raven I can forgive because they're trying to show off them effects. I'll give them another chance, seeing as I spent 0 dollars on MWO and got a few months worth of fun with goons out of it. CaptCommy posted:So if all the IS quirks are gone, doesn't that make Clan everything unequivocally better? Definitely going to need more info on this. Dropping bonuses was something they should've done day one, it's a boring grind. However, doing that now after quirks basically just tipped the scales in IS mech's favor, it's really fishy.
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veedubfreak posted:Is that an elemental suit fighting whatever that other thing is. It's some weird IS battle armor that only shows up in that game, and can somehow ~neurohack~ mechs and then pilot them. Don't get me wrong, both MechAssault games were actually fun, but they were so loving weird as BattleTech scenarios.
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Sard posted:It's some weird IS battle armor that only shows up in that game, and can somehow ~neurohack~ mechs and then pilot them. Don't get me wrong, both MechAssault games were actually fun, but they were so loving weird as BattleTech scenarios. Something something lost tech star league cores something quick time event something new technology something death rays. It was charming in it's own quirky and limited way. I did like that you could jump onto battleships and blow them up from their own decks though. (wow it's been a long time since I had an OG xbox now)
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Drone posted:That MW:5 trailer is much more of a tech demo than anything guys. Sure, it looks and sounds real pretty, but we didn't really see anything at all in it. Most of the 'mech-scale assets existed already and were probably ported over directly from MWO (or at least mostly and then tweaked to look a bit better), and the addition of an on-foot component makes me really, really pessimistic. Yeah I liked the way the mech fight looked, but it didn't excite me otherwise. But a skirmish game attached to a contract and upgrade engine would be fun and not hard to do, so I'll be cautiously optimistic. Seriously tell your bosses to get some proper writing and voicework though 19. PGI has a tin ear for that stuff, it's cheap, and it makes a game way slicker if that's well done (cf: HBS) e: december roadmap sebmojo fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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I put a remark in the MW5 thread on HBS because those people are acting like loving retard take my money marks in all three pages. https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/4941/comments/87473
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Commoners posted:Guys I found the video of Mechwarrior 5 If at once you don't succeed, try try try try try again.
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mw 5 is going to be really bad source: flagellum, mwo legendary founder
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Theres no way im preordering from pgi
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Anyone but PGI, please anyone but PGI gently caress I would rather Gearbox did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8Y1V8gy1A How does that trailer look worse than the trailer that got put out years and years ago.
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Remind me again when I can start playing alpha for battletech? PGI owns the mechwarrior franchise til 2020 /wrist
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Flagellum posted:mw 5 is going to be really bad So says Raged Legendary Founder who lives in a house of shame and regret.
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Mechwarrior 5 presented by Hello Games!
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aniviron posted:Also glad to hear 19 say that Russ was playing it live, which means the Raven was actually being computer controlled instead of piloted by a dude for the demo or on a predetermined rail. The trailer also looks like it's all done with what actually exists in the game right now instead of being a bullshot that was done in 3dsmax or running way higher specs than could reasonably be handled by a computer, only to be toned down later. This demo is no more "real" or less "fake" than if it weren't on a rail. First-reveal demos presented like this are, more often than not, mockups that are intended to give an idea of what the final will look like. The quality of a mockup like this doesn't have much to do with the quality of the final product. Treat it exactly the same way you would any other promotional footage.
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The term generally used is "vertical slice," where you show the basic functional game elements in a limited yet playable fashion. It's generally meant to be more indicative of a product actually under development with some core systems in place, rather than a pre-rendered/pre-recorded video which gives less of an idea how much of the game is actually developed.
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Cease to Hope posted:This demo is no more "real" or less "fake" than if it weren't on a rail. First-reveal demos presented like this are, more often than not, mockups that are intended to give an idea of what the final will look like. The quality of a mockup like this doesn't have much to do with the quality of the final product. And, while Russ played it onstage at Mechcon, I want to be the annoying jerk pointing out that every element shown so far is part of the bog standard UT4 out of the box featureset. Drop in the assets PGI already had (or had the art team make) and it looks pretty, sure, but it doesn't show anything distinct in the way of gameplay or features.
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Banano posted:This compiles, but there's no window/interface There is now. Turns out it is pretty easy to do, and lets you tweak your setup on the fly. veedubfreak posted:Why are you guys trying to reinvent the wheel. Firecontrol is already a thing that exists and can be downloaded. This one will figure out your optimal-ish firing rate based on your gun/quirks/modules for you because Math is Hard. /Reads thread. No more quirks or modules  At least now now I am totally set when the apocalypse approaches and humanity's continued existence depends on interrupting a multi-threaded keyboard macro.
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What is Mech IK? Are they going to have Idiot Kings running the forums? That would be entirely appropriate. Next Mech to be announced will be a light. Good, even though it won't be seen before summer i think. Preemptively dubbing it "CBillsmas" when they refund all modules en masse. In light of such refunds, I might start buying some extra radar derps to make Mech switching less annoying and/or have a fully derped lance for Invasion. e: google keyboard guessed "panhypopituitarism" instead of "preemptively". How on Earth...
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Probably inverse kinematics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_kinematics
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I'm not happy too see the reveal, because this is presumably where most of PGI's money and development time is going to go. Given their track record so far, they're going to formally (instead of practically obvs) abandon MWO development save for mechpaks and pour everything into this. And if whale money starts to dry up, I'll bet they won't hesitate to pull the servers.
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Ok I'm possibly being a bit unfair, the trailer looked okay but it's basically a scripted single player MWO so it's not like that far out of line with the poo poo theyre working on now. I mean the Shadowhawk looked pretty good? I bet it will be decent bug buggy probably, and man he was really showing his rear end to that Raven a lot yikes.
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ok how about that escort mode, then? I can't wait for the nascent strategy for the escorting team to avoid the near guaranteed loss revolving around legging the AI Atlas as soon as the match starts
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Dreadwroth posted:Ok I'm possibly being a bit unfair, the trailer looked okay but it's basically a scripted single player MWO so it's not like that far out of line with the poo poo theyre working on now. I mean the Shadowhawk looked pretty good? I bet it will be decent bug buggy probably, and man he was really showing his rear end to that Raven a lot yikes. It's a game built on UT4, vs MWO, which is built on Cryengine. There is a lot of time and effort needed to learn one vs the other, and this time was funded purely on the backs of MWO subscribers, instead of that money being re-invested in MWO itself. Considering how obsolete cryengine is (PGI was never on the latest version and the company that made it is now out of business) the fact that instead of moving MWO to a new engine, they chose instead to skim off MWO money developing expertise on a new engine, and using that expertise for another nostalgia cash grab. Oh, but Russ said it was a separate group of developers. They are still being paid from a source of income, of which PGI only has 1. EoRaptor fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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veedubfreak posted:Remind me again when I can start playing alpha for battletech? According to the latest kickstarter email sometime early 2017
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new skill tree breakdown http://imgur.com/a/cdauq
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Pattonesque posted:new skill tree breakdown Well that's certainly a lot more than the current XP to cap out a mech, good lord.
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NihilCredo posted:What is Mech IK? Are they going to have Idiot Kings running the forums? That would be entirely appropriate. I believe the term your looking for is "Volunteer Moderator".
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So what are they doing for people who already have mastery on specific mech models? Refunding all the invested XP or, worse, just a C-bill payout?
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All XP being refunded, all cbills spend on modules refunded. Also, there's a limited number of slots per chassis you can use to allocate points to so you have to decide how you want to min/max. It's all respeccable too if you need to.
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Gregen posted:Probably inverse kinematics. Yes, Inverse Kinematics is going back into that game.
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