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Just reminded me that I need to see Hancock. This cinematography is actually really good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbI9YAlmM_A
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Hancock is like, half of a great movie. For that trailer... I didn't give a poo poo about the first Guardians, not my kind of film, and I didn't give a poo poo about any of that. So whatever you kids have fun.
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I think they were just showing off Baby Groot a lot in the trailer because they're planning on selling a poo poo-ton of Baby Groot merchandise before the movie even opens.
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Guardians 1 was a pretty typical Marvel movie with all the usual drawbacks but it was markedly better-executed than most of the MCU, with an actual use of visual gags and jokes that weren't just characters' sarcastic tone of voice. So yeah I'm not saying my expectations were through the roof but it is pretty disappointing that what little footage we've now seen of the sequel comes from the Dane Cook "any joke is funny if you yell it loud enough" school of comedy.
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Burkion posted:Hancock is like, half of a great movie. agreed but not the half of the movie people usually mean when they say this
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Brother Entropy posted:agreed but not the half of the movie people usually mean when they say this My man.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:My man. Which version should I watch, Theatrical or Unrated?
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MacheteZombie posted:Which version should I watch, Theatrical or Unrated? I haven't watched the unrated, but it seems like the additions just beef up the character stuff, so it probably can't hurt. But, for what it's worth, I've seen the theatrical cut like 5 times and it's still really great.
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MacheteZombie posted:Which version should I watch, Theatrical or Unrated? The only significant difference is the addition of a sex scene between Hancock and a groupie in the beginning. It's really awkward, increasing both the sense of isolation Hancock has, and the gonzo-porn aspect of some of the humor of the movie. Of course, by having a black woman who was in some way close to Hancock, it throws a wrench into the trinity of the movie - a stand in for white males, a stand in for while females, and a stand in for black males. But breaking up that sort of symmetry is usually a good thing.
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Brother Entropy posted:agreed but not the half of the movie people usually mean when they say this It's funny we're talking about Hancock around the same time as Arrival, since the narrative is also about circular amnesia and return of your spouse.
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Baby groot was a bit much in the new trailer. Otherwise it looked decent I liked the first GOTG, it had nice chemistry between the characters. The plot and villain and just about everything else was pretty dull though. I hope it gets better in this one
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GoTG is the best Marvel movie, with Iron Man 1 in second. So what we're really seeing is how people see the other movies now. 
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Vintersorg posted:GoTG is the best Marvel movie, with Iron Man 1 in second. So what we're really seeing is how people see the other movies now. I thought Galaxy was a fun but largely forgettable movie with incredibly shallow characters even by superhero flick standards. Please tell me why I'm wrong, because I see the above point echoed a lot in this thread.
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Is it possible for a movie to be bad and also enjoyable? Most Marvel movies are not great, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching them. Could Marvel films be better? Sure. Is that going to stop me from watching them? Nope. Seems like a whole lot of people in this thread have the view that "You can only watch good movies and you're not allowed to enjoy films that some consider mediocre." I'm not trying to shut down criticism of Marvel films as there is plenty to criticize, but goddamn can this thread be insufferable at times.
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of course it's possible, the problem is that the overwhelming majority of marvel movies are bad and also boring GotG has a good first half hour which makes the rest of it that much more frustrating
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Mordiceius posted:Seems like a whole lot of people in this thread have the view that "You can only watch good movies and you're not allowed to enjoy films that some consider mediocre." name people who've been doing this and try to discuss it with them specifically because doing vague 'some people are being rude and mean and bad unlike me' really does come off like trying to shut down criticism
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Mordiceius posted:Is it possible for a movie to be bad and also enjoyable? No one is shaming you for liking the MCU. Sure, some posters in this thread and in CD can be pretty harsh on it, but their opinions aren't worshiped as gospel.
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Mordiceius posted:Is it possible for a movie to be bad and also enjoyable? You're "allowed" to like whatever you want, homie, feel free to defend that or not but what could this post possibly achieve?
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The temperature in this thread has risen 45 degrees in the last day from the amount of people trying to one-up each other and get the hottest take.
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Vintersorg posted:GoTG is the best Marvel movie, with Iron Man 1 in second. So what we're really seeing is how people see the other movies now. Yeah, basically. I mean I think I actually like Thor 1 better than Iron Man 1 but I'm weird lol. What Guardians (and Thor 1) has that the others don't is a distinctive directorial touch. Gunn and Branagh refuse to be subsumed into a "Marvel style" like the various TV directors the other movies got. The difference is that Gunn is very sly about it and manages to stick in a bunch of very Gunn-ish stuff into the margins whereas nobody could be surprised when Kenny B wasn't asked back. OTOH Iron Man 1 actually uses its distinct blandness well---he's the franchise superhero ofc. his movie's gonna be shot like a commercial, right? Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Mordiceius posted:Is it possible for a movie to be bad and also enjoyable? But, we can learn to both enjoy and critique. What I take issue with is that the Marvel films have built up to something that's not necessarily aesthetically bad, but morally bad, and people are influenced by art.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Yeah, basically. I mean I think I actually like Thor 1 better than Iron Man 1 but I'm weird lol. What is Gunn-ish stuff did he insert that distances it from a normal Marvel movie? Can you give a few examples, because I don't know poo poo about James Gunn and his established directorial style.
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Sweet - Fox on the Run is gonna be an excellent addition to Awesome Mix vol. 2.
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Drifter posted:What is Gunn-ish stuff did he insert that distances it from a normal Marvel movie? Can you give a few examples, because I don't know poo poo about James Gunn and his established directorial style. I don't either but going by Guardians 1 his aesthetic is "makes the best MCU movies." I think part of that is also just that Branagh's Thor and Guardians were the first two MCU movies to not beat around the bush and be completely about about space gods and vast alien worlds and stuff even compared to Avengers. Not having to be directly about drones and power armor in some way like most of the series is a big plus. Guardians especially looked so much like the comics like in the way shots are set up and stuff. I love the part where they think Star Lord is dead and Drax is like BEHOLD and holds his hand out awkwardly and it's literally a splash page from the comics. I haven't see Thor in a while so I don't remember much beyond dutch angels but Guardians looked great
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Neo Rasa posted:I don't either but going by Guardians 1 his aesthetic is "makes the best MCU movies." I think part of that is also just that Branagh's Thor and Guardians were the first two MCU movies to not beat around the bush and be completely about about space gods and vast alien worlds and stuff even compared to Avengers. Not having to be directly about drones and power armor in some way like most of the series is a big plus. Guardians especially looked so much like the comics like in the way shots are set up and stuff. I love the part where they think Star Lord is dead and Drax is like BEHOLD and holds his hand out awkwardly and it's literally a splash page from the comics. I haven't see Thor in a while so I don't remember much beyond dutch angels but Guardians looked great Gotcha. A majority of the Story and characterization of Guardians really put me off it, so I'm a little embarrassed to say that all I got from the aesthetic is that it was the 'most colorful (with the funny raccoon)'. I'll have to skim through the movie again one day and see what I can catch of it cinematically. I still stand by the fact that the modern star trek movies are better all around movies, and Guardians only gets by due to it being in the category pile of 'Marvel Cinematic Universe." Guardians had better highs, though, than Beastie Boys Star Trek.
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Guardians has very little going for it visually. When the CGI team's in charge, it's alright:    But when it's not:     The lighting, the greenscreen, the composition  I will say that the guardians' arrival at Knowhere (when they move through the crowd) reminded me of Blade Runner's intro of the city (Deckard waiting for his dinner). I'll fire it up later and take some screenshots, should be fun.
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I don't know, it stuck out to be as being very pretty compared to any of the previous MCU flicks. But at the same time like others are saying, I think Guardians looks great *compared to the other MCU movies* but I'm not going to act like it looks as good as Alien or Blade Runner or something. Part of that is the movie's fault though, like by even trying to draw a comparison to Blade Runner when the first arrive on Knowhere it's like, no, sorry, your movie's not going to look as good as Blade Runner. It was smarter when it was homaging stuff like Space Hunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone in the beginning because it sure as hell looks a lot better than that. 
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It's much more beautiful in motion as well.
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Halloween Jack posted:Sure, I enjoy all kinds of bad things.
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achillesforever6 posted:I can't wait when we've escaped the hellish fascist hellscape and in 2050 history books will read, "In 2008 the beginning of the great 20 year darkness could be traced to Marvel making superhero movies that would corrupt the youth into becoming blackshirts for the GOP" Change that to "reflective of" and away from the moral-panicky "corrupt", and yeah, that sounds about right. Like people don't talk about early German cinema and fascism.
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Water Sheep posted:Change that to "reflective of" and away from the moral-panicky "corrupt", and yeah, that sounds about right. Like people don't talk about early German cinema and fascism.
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Falcon using a drone to kill two anonymous henchman from five yards away is the best metaphor for the war on terror and the militarisation of the country that anyone has come up with.
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I just saw the trailer and I'm hyped as hosed for the new GOTG movie. Baby Groot  That ending with Drex lol
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Ensign_Ricky posted:I love every single thing about "SCREW YOU, SPACESHIP!!!" mild complaint but isn't drax incapable of understanding figurative language? and if so does he want to gently caress a spaceship? 
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Halloween Jack posted:Sure, I enjoy all kinds of bad things. lmao.
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seravid posted:The lighting, the greenscreen, the composition Once Marvel movies started going digital (to be fair there were only a handful shot on film) they all suffered from this problem with color. Doctor Strange is a huge step in the right direction and Guardians Volume II looks to be the same.
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This would be relatively in-character for Drax. The only thing that felt off to me about the movie was Drax actually. It felt weird that he's introduced in this sort of dangerous he's a real deal threat kind of way but he gets clowned on effortlessly by Ronan/etc. even before the bad guys have the gem. I'm not a huge Drax the Destroyer fan but comics Drax can like literally beat Thanos to death by himself if he really wanted to and is mega powerful in general so it seemed weird that they went to sort of an opposite extreme but kept his imposing look. I guess it's a reasonable change in the long run so that the question of "why doesn't Gamora or Drax just murder everyone" doesn't come up every time the guardians run into trouble but was weird given the character's reputation in the movie. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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I said come in! posted:Once Marvel movies started going digital (to be fair there were only a handful shot on film) they all suffered from this problem with color. Doctor Strange is a huge step in the right direction and Guardians Volume II looks to be the same. no & the youtube video that states this is dumb as well
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CelticPredator posted:lmao. i agree, calling it "not necessarily aesthetically bad" is beating around the bush.
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Elfgames posted:mild complaint but isn't drax incapable of understanding figurative language? and if so does he want to gently caress a spaceship? They already broke this rule in the first movie when he calls Gamorra a whore.
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