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Friendly Humour posted:Pretty sure the people Assad spent spent a decade torturing and imprisoning do not see Assad as an ally. You would think! The PKK is predominantly led by Turkish Kurds though. https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/803242730692321280 Protests have increased in recent days in Qamishli as they've paired this strategy of working with Assad with an increased attempt to crush opposition to themselves. They raided the HQ of a political party within the KNC and arrested quite a few people there. Tore the place up. People protested and there were a few skirmishes as a result.
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Volkerball posted:You would think! The PKK is predominantly led by Turkish Kurds though. Good point, the YPG are the true Turkish invaders in northern Syria. 
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Volkerball posted:You would think! The PKK is predominantly led by Turkish Kurds though. Huh? PYD was a political party thoroughly persecuted by the Assad regime before the war. I doubt the people he imprisoned have forgotten the matter, even if they've got no option but to put up with him for now.
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I'm pretty sure the SDF see Assad less as an 'ally' and more of a 'lesser of multiple evils, sometimes'. Even if shooting incidents are kept to a minimum, the two factions are going to have something akin to a cold civil war once this is over. And like people have said, over is a relative term.
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Syrian conflict intensity actually peaked all the way back in 2012 This data is from the Syrian Observatory for Human rights so its hard to know how comparable it is to these early numbers. The SOfH gave a figure for January 2015 of 2683 compared to about 1500 on this graphic so there numbers are probably higher, and there's a few months of 2015 missing, but here's the series up to last month  Since the raw numbers are not comparable I think it's more valuable looking at the trend, which is a slow but steady decline in violence, with a second peak in the beginning of this past year. Note that the decline in conflict severity up to January 2015 was not accompanied by drastic changes in the balance of power. While I think we'll see an immediate decline in deaths after Aleppo is done the trajectory suggests the conflict will go on for many more years. Conflicts generally follow fairly clear trajectories unless there is some dramatic shift in the power balance, like say Turkey and the Gulf cutting all aid to the rebels. For an example of how other similar conflicts play out here's what Algeria's graph looks:  And Iraq:  I'm not going to plot a trend across two different datasets but it looks like the conventional conflict might be on track to end in the next two or three years, and low grade conflict is liable to continue for many years subsequent. I wish I had the rest of the SofH monthly totals but they don't appear to have been collected anywhere
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Cat Mattress posted:I don't think the SDF see the regime as an ally; rather they see it as the enemy they have the possibility of not making. Lustful Man Hugs posted:I'm pretty sure the SDF see Assad less as an 'ally' and more of a 'lesser of multiple evils, sometimes'. Even if shooting incidents are kept to a minimum, the two factions are going to have something akin to a cold civil war once this is over. And like people have said, over is a relative term. And yes Volkerball, that's a picture of a YPG/YPJ flag alongside the SAA's flag. Gosh, no other group in Syria has done that: http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-druze-rally-to-prevent-genocide-of-syrian-brethren/  Oh, right, the Druze. They've done that. E: Map:  Note how Sheikh Maqsood is 100% surrounded by the SAA. Saladin Rising fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Can I get a spread sheet of all the acronyms and Arabic names of groups amd who they're fighting with/allying with/ignoring? The CIA is fighting the other CIA, that recently split with the CIA over dispute about whether the CIA should support a more radical faction of the CIA.
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Woozy posted:The CIA is fighting the other CIA, that recently split with the CIA over dispute about whether the CIA should support a more radical faction of the CIA. Nice!
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Woozy posted:The Al Qaeda is fighting the other Al Qaeda, that recently split with the Al Qaeda over dispute about whether Mossad should support a more radical faction of the CIA.
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pKfBEaF6uc What Russo-Syrian "liberation" looks like.
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Throatwarbler posted:https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/805537973336965120 so is the last one faked/coersed or is assad actualy trying to pull a hearts and minds deal. i have heard good things from the kurdish areas.
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Throatwarbler posted:https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/805537973336965120 "we are merely delivering food aid to the Finns" useful idiot...
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rear end struggle posted:useful idiot... ohh thats edgy , sorry if your safe space got touched . Be sure to check in with your brain cell next time i make a post moonraker fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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rear end struggle posted:
Your posting a Fake video idiot , these people never get tired of crying once there on the other side of the hammer. Be sure to post all the videos of children getting beheaded and gays thrown off roofs and any one of a different religion being killed , Rebels are IS light ever one knows this. They could Run back to the Saudi paymasters are ask Obama for a green card , Ohh sorry thats never going to happen they where used as pawns and now its all over for them no pot of gold at the end of this rainbow mama and here was me thinking is going to be just like Libya A few more clips for you to shed some tears over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uiry2xlvgKQ What happens when a few simple questions are asked about so called Hospitals being bombed, so full of their own poo poo they never dreamed some one would ask some think simple like a location are street are area are time are date . How to end your carrier at the whitehouse and expose the propaganda against Russia in under 3min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23gfOQ-juz8 moonraker fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Throatwarbler posted:https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/805537973336965120 Why do you keep linking a rabid bashar twitter supporter as if it's actually worth looking at. what do you possibly think that they'll have to say other than pure lies and fascist propaganda.
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moonraker posted:ohh thats edgy , sorry if your safe space got touched . Be sure to check in with your brain cell next time i make a post So does your job as a Russian social media troll come with benefits? Getting enough hours?
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moonraker posted:Your posting a Fake video idiot , these people never get tired of crying once there on the other side of the hammer. Be sure to post all the videos of children getting beheaded and gays thrown off roofs and any one of a different religion being killed , Rebels are IS light ever one knows this. They could Run back to the Saudi paymasters are ask Obama for a green card , Ohh sorry thats never going to happen they where used as pawns and now its all over for them no pot of gold at the end of this rainbow mama and here was me thinking is going to be just like Libya Okay so a few things: Iraq is not Syria. I know that's sorta groundbreaking to you, but I assure you it is true. A thing happening in Iraq does not mean a thing is happening the same way in Syria. Yes, the guy at the state department (not the white house) got fed up with an RT reporter. You know why? That reporter asks inane, obnoxious questions every loving day without any shred of irony considering they are representing a Russian state-funded media outlet. It also has literally zero to do with the question at hand and is stupid deflection of the issue we're discussing. You're really bad at this. Also, making fun of RT is not going to cost anybody at State their job, dumbass.
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Go spout crazy elsewhere. Some of us haven't followed what's happening in Syria for awhile and are trying to get caught up.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Says motar attack, which by the sound of it sounds more likely. You hear a familiar motar "whump" just before the strike and everyone's looking around. Title says minomet, but we don't know what information the uploader based this on. OTOH, hitting a moving vehicle spot on with your first mortar shell sounds statistically impossible, also with usual ranges of engagement you shouldn't be hearing the sound of the mortar shot so clearly. Also a mortar shell is way deadlier for exposed infantry than a shaped charge from RPG-7 or ATGM launcher, and as the videographer survived unharmed it suggests against a shrapnel shell. In other news, Egypt just passed a tightening of punishments for mutilation of female genitals.  Mutilators may get 5-7 years of jail, or 15 years if the victim dies or is permanently disabled in the operation. Family members and other participants can get 1-3 years in jail. It's a big change, in 2015 an Egyptian doctor was sentenced to two years and three months in such a case where a girl died, but eventually got out after three months. But I'm assuming that the habit is not going to go away anytime soon.
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Saladin Rising posted:"Co-belligerents" is probably a good way to describe the current SDF-Assad relationship. In the short term they share a common enemy (Turkish-backed rebels like Euphrates Shield) and common goals (control of Al Bab), but longer term I agree with Lustful Man Hugs that a "cold civil war" is a likely outcome. A "Cold War" is not possible without the YPG having an outlet through either Turkey or Iraq and an outside sponsor. And the YPG is enemies of both the KRG and Turkey. They are either going to be Assad's bitch or they will be destroyed.
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moonraker posted:Your posting a Fake video idiot. MOD CHALLENGE You now have 48 hours to prove your claim that this video is fake, or retract your claim. Failure to do either will result in a ban. Here's some handy resources where you can learn how to verify videos: https://firstdraftnews.com/ https://www.bellingcat.com/category/resources/
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moonraker posted:like a location are street are area are time are date . How to end your carrier at the whitehouse what is this moon language?
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moonraker posted:What happens when a few simple questions are asked about so called Hospitals being bombed, so full of their own poo poo they never dreamed some one would ask some think simple like a location are street are area are time are date . How to end your carrier at the whitehouse and expose the propaganda against Russia in under 3min I also did a really detailed examination of a reported hospital bombing, there's plenty of evidence if you care to look for it https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2016/11/09/fact-checking-russias-claim-didnt-bomb-another-hospital-syria/
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Cat Mattress posted:what is this moon language? Google Translate Russian->English.
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Brown Moses posted:MOD CHALLENGE moonraker, I would suggest that you try to identify all the people on the video, I'm sure I saw Brown Moses and caro at one point. Compare multiple videos from Paris attacks and Orlando massacre, it's always the same people, these are CRISIS ACTORS paid for by Soros !!!
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https://www.rt.com/news/369209-admiral-kuznetsov-su-33/ Another Russian jet missed the deck and fell into the Mediterranean. This time a SU-33.
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rear end struggle posted:https://www.rt.com/news/369209-admiral-kuznetsov-su-33/ So basically the crew can't fix the arresting (cable?) system on the deck. You would think they would have made fixing that top priority at this point. Plus I thought flight operations were suspended since the crash as most sorties seem to be land based now. They seem to really want to show off that carrier. Brown Moses posted:MOD CHALLENGE 
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Brown Moses posted:MOD CHALLENGE Just to be clear are MIT professors and archons of investigative journalism respected sources here or is he only allowed to use Wikipedia?
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cochise posted:So basically the crew can't fix the arresting (cable?) system on the deck. You would think they would have made fixing that top priority at this point. I'm hoping for a landing plane crashing into this thing resulting in Kuznetsov being sunk or usable as scrap. I want to pride of Russia being reduced to beyond salvage through their own folly.
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Woozy posted:Just to be clear are MIT professors and archons of investigative journalism respected sources here or is he only allowed to use Wikipedia? I would say that having no other evidence besides a MIT professor said it doesn't quite stand up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Khmer_Rouge_Killing_Fields#Chomsky_and_Herman
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Incredible! Chomsky fails to predict a fat nobody accidentally volunteering for the job of CIA mouthpiece. Time to publish another addition, I think.
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Woozy posted:Incredible! Chomsky fails to predict a fat nobody accidentally volunteering for the job of CIA mouthpiece. Time to publish another addition, I think. Someone saying they have evidence isn't evidence. BM is looking for primary evidence that that video is faked. A professor saying something doesn't actually have any baring on the facts.
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rear end struggle posted:Someone saying they have evidence isn't evidence. BM is looking for primary evidence that that video is faked. A professor saying something doesn't actually have any baring on the facts. Well, I guess we'll have to go out and find some evidence then! 
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rear end struggle posted:https://www.rt.com/news/369209-admiral-kuznetsov-su-33/ Russia's pointless deployment of their leaking prestige hulk paying dividends, I see.
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Woozy posted:Well, I guess we'll have to go out and find some evidence then! People post publically available information on Wikipedia though. It's rightly mocked for shoddy research and writing, but the evidence still needs to be there for us to call it crap. Authorities don't have that obligation, they can just talk poo poo and rely on their position to sway people.
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Woozy posted:Well, I guess we'll have to go out and find some evidence then! You've picked a weird hill to die on.
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