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Ezekiel_980 posted:Ok i'm loving stumped, can any goons offer any advise with this? or suggest a helpful airbrush forum? That's a bummer to hear. I have a Badger 105 on the way and I have Vallejo primer. Currently I use an Iwata Neo with a .35mm tip. Vallejo black primer clogs after a minute or so, but the grey and white work with no issues.
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Honestly, unless it's a special primer I'd stick to rattlecan primers. Their nature means that they are very thick paints (what with the goals of protecting the work from other solvents, filling imperfections, and accomplishing both without hot lacquer). They're dirt-cheap and lets you jump straight from priming to getting ready to paint the actual color. My go-tos are the Rustoleum Painters' touch; a flat grey for standard painting, a gloss black for lacquer/smootg metal effects, and a flat white for brightly colored works will last you quite a while.
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Floppychop posted:That's a bummer to hear. I have a Badger 105 on the way and I have Vallejo primer. I may end up returning this one and just use the money for a Iwata Neurolimal posted:Honestly, unless it's a special primer I'd stick to rattlecan primers. Their nature means that they are very thick paints (what with the goals of protecting the work from other solvents, filling imperfections, and accomplishing both without hot lacquer). They're dirt-cheap and lets you jump straight from priming to getting ready to paint the actual color. Sadly I live in the hellscape that is the american north east so we get about a week of good rattlecan weather.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:26
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Ezekiel_980 posted:I may end up returning this one and just use the money for a Iwata Yeah I have the same deal and I've wanted a second airbrush but ugh the Iwata neo costs almost as much as an entire tournament-sized Dropfleet fleet. I don't have to prime that much so I can just clear the clogs as they happen I guess.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:30
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Bistromatic posted:Thanks for the kind words y'all! Clever idea with the antenna, and a nice tutorial Q about the tamiya liner - I know it is used straight from the bottle, but can it be thinned and still behave the same way?
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Dec 4, 2016 23:40
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Ezekiel_980 posted:I may end up returning this one and just use the money for a Iwata Just brush on Vallejo surface primer. I primarily live in a humid area most of the year and that's my usual solution.
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Chill la Chill posted:Just brush on Vallejo surface primer. Always do this.
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Ezekiel_980 posted:Sadly I live in the hellscape that is the american north east so we get about a week of good rattlecan weather. A garage is a good place to spray, since you can just open the door when you're done to vent the fumes. You could also go to a workshop/"hacker space" or whatever, since a lot of them should have fume hoods and such.
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Avenging Dentist posted:A garage is a good place to spray, since you can just open the door when you're done to vent the fumes. You could also go to a workshop/"hacker space" or whatever, since a lot of them should have fume hoods and such. This implies that I have one I have made progress however, spent most of the evening tweaking things and now have found a mixture of primer and thinner that works for about 3 min before i get tip try so i think i can outsmart the paint and airbrush.
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Ezekiel_980 posted:Ok i'm loving stumped, can any goons offer any advise with this? or suggest a helpful airbrush forum? Stop using Vallejo surface primer through an airbrush. Buy this: https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-B...YVQFB3AAWQQH7JZ Goes straight through a Badger Patriot 105 without dilution. It's excellent. Yeast fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Yeast posted:Stop using Vallejo surface primer through an airbrush. Does this do the kinda shrink to fit trick that VSP does? I notice it's urethane based, and that's like the #1 thing I love about VSP.
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signalnoise posted:Does this do the kinda shrink to fit trick that VSP does? I notice it's urethane based, and that's like the #1 thing I love about VSP. A little bit, yeah. It also doesn't have the weird plasticky feel that VSP gets. When I used VSP, everything was great as long as I didn't have to scrape or sand anything afterwards, if I did whole sections would peel off like rubber.
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JoshTheStampede posted:A little bit, yeah. It also doesn't have the weird plasticky feel that VSP gets. When I used VSP, everything was great as long as I didn't have to scrape or sand anything afterwards, if I did whole sections would peel off like rubber. That sounds incredibly nice, I know exactly the problem you're talking about and it's hellish
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Most cold lacquer primers should do the whole "shrink to fit" thing, since its a result of the solvents evening out large area of paint. The rubber peel sounds more like an acrylic art paint trait though, which is interesting; i could see it being useful for color tests. Its really terrifying when you first use a gloss primer and one pass makes it look like you just filled in every single detail 
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Dec 5, 2016 04:18
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Do not buy a neo for iwata airbrush, they are garbage using the iwata brand, and not actually made by iwata.
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I'm baffled by the 105 problems reported. Could it be something environmental? What's the temp/humidity like? I'n in the uk and my 105 really lives up to it's ak47 of airbrushing reputation. I fire all kinds of crap through it without issue. The only time I've had drying issues like that was when doing a huge batch of metallic basecoating.
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Dec 5, 2016 07:07
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It might be the colder weather, I didn't have problems with the vallejo primer clogging it in the early fall.
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Frobbe posted:Do not buy a neo for iwata airbrush, they are garbage using the iwata brand, and not actually made by iwata. I got mine for $30 and it's been worth it. I haven't had any real problems with it. Though I may be in the minority. I now got a Badger Patriot, so I guess I "graduated" to a better airbrush.
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Dec 5, 2016 07:33
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 WiP shot of a Skavenblight Scramblers gutter runner! i'm very happy with the skin tones. Floppychop posted:I got mine for $30 and it's been worth it. I haven't had any real problems with it. Though I may be in the minority. I also have a Neo for iwata (came with my compressor as a kit) and it's great for learning airbrush maintenance and cleaning on... because you have to be so obsessive about it. and it loves to clog right the gently caress up with tip dry. in comparison, my Badger 105 Xtreme Patriot is so far ahead it's not even funny, and tip dry is at least easy to remedy while working on that one
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Frobbe posted:
Dope. What did you use?
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TTerrible posted:I'm baffled by the 105 problems reported. Could it be something environmental? What's the temp/humidity like? I went for a 105 for the reputation of being indestructible and also  , so I am surprised its so much more fussy the eclipse was. I think a combination of my in experience and my apartment is bone dry (i've been enjoying nose bleeds daily for almost a month now) since we now have the heat going is causing a lot of my issuies, however with thinner and some other fine additives coming in the mail i think i can get it working correctly. And once Christmas is done raping my wallet I can order some of the badger primer and try that.
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Dec 5, 2016 12:59
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mongol posted:Dope. What did you use? There's a nice guide in the latest White Dwarf, but the rundown is Rakarth flesh basecoat, Kislev flesh on top, wash with reikland flesh shade and then highliught with kislev flesh again. it also says to do an ultrafine highlight with flayed one flesh, but i think i'll leave well enough alone.
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Finished this test frigate for some jade scourge, i think it could work, but i think it might need to pop a bit more? Apologies for the lovely phone camera 
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_Gumby posted:Finished this test frigate for some jade scourge, i think it could work, but i think it might need to pop a bit more? That looks fantastic as is to me
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Dec 5, 2016 15:45
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Leave as is, super pretty.
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If you want to spice it up a bit i think a gradual colour change on the fins would work nicely.
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Dec 5, 2016 16:12
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What's a good extremely dark gray? Need to paint a lot of "black" soon.
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I like Vallejo Model Colour German Grey a lot. I used it for that ship i posted as well as for Cryx back in the day. Start with black, shade into German Grey and then Neutral Grey.Dr. Phildo posted:Q about the tamiya liner - I know it is used straight from the bottle, but can it be thinned and still behave the same way?
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It should behave about the same; its basically pre-thinned enamel. It might end up fainter or pool if you use too much though. If you haven't used them before: you want a gloss or semigloss surface (you can matte seal after), load a brush and just dab the panel lines, some space apart from each other and on corners. As the paint sets capillary action will cause the paint to travel across the channels and stain them. After it's dried you can use a Q-tip dipped in the enamels' thinner or just lighter fluid to gently clean off the dab marks.
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Ezekiel_980 posted:I went for a 105 for the reputation of being indestructible and also Holy poo poo if the dry air is enough to give you nosebleeds that might well be it. That badger stynlerez (the name makes me so angry it's so loving dumb and hard to search for or remember) primer is really, really great.
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Cat Face Joe posted:What's a good extremely dark gray? Need to paint a lot of "black" soon.  Edge highlighting using straight Vallejo Dark Grey:  Please excuse my hasty brush work, I was going to the "Speed Painting" cheevo. Her pants and "Day of the Dead" black were done the same way (Vallejo black, highlighted with 1:1 Vallejo Black and Vallejo Dark Grey). No filter, because the highlight areas were much smaller than the large, flat parts of the Black Templar's cape. 
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Cool, thanks. Gonna check out some Vallejo grays. It's for all of my Aleph models. Thinking of going with a warm yellow for the lights on them but it might come out a little too Deus Ex: HR.
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Ezekiel_980 posted:I went for a 105 for the reputation of being indestructible and also Thinner has a drying acccelerant in it, it will make your situation worse. use flow improver instead, it has drying retarder in the formula. https://smile.amazon.com/Vallejo-Ai...jo+flow+improve
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Yeast posted:Thinner has a drying acccelerant in it, it will make your situation worse. use flow improver instead, it has drying retarder in the formula. Have some coming in the mail already Also my silentaire came in today, after dealing with the oily mess from getting dropped off upside down i just plugged it in and its quieter than a dorm refrigerator. also it came with a badger 150 which i may try out later this week.
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I was fortunate enough that the manager at my local Warhammer store was able to hold one of these guys for me - I painted the limited edition dude and I'm pretty happy with the results.   
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Cat Face Joe posted:What's a good extremely dark gray? Need to paint a lot of "black" soon. I always preferred to mix my own with the dark grey foundation (adeptus battlegrey?) plus chaos black. Once i found the ratio i liked i'd mix up a batch in an empty bottle.
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Vallejo German Grey, Reaper Noir Black are both so close you can paint it as 'black' very easily. Edit: Secret Weapon miniatures 'Tyre black' is also excellent.
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Not exactly miniature painting, but tangentially related: I picked up one of the HobbyZone painting stations and put it together this weekend. My wood glue was on the verge of turning into a rubber-like substance, so that was a pain in the rear end to get out of the bottle, but other than that, it went together pretty well. I am a little concerned about the size of the water cup holders, as they seem really, really small - I'll have to see if my go-to water cup will fit. One thing I did discover though, is that the white melamine coating on the station is razor sharp along the edges. I was running my finger along a panel edge to clean off some glue and got about eight inches down the edge before I realized I was slicing off a nice layer of skin. I looked in horror at the flap hanging off my finger, and a second later, was rewarded with my circulatory system catching up with things - *bloop* blood everywhere. It's been three days and my finger still starts bleeding if I bump into something.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I am a little concerned about the size of the water cup holders, as they seem really, really small - I'll have to see if my go-to water cup will fit. quote:It's been three days and my finger still starts bleeding if I bump into something.
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Pierzak posted:Superglue it? Miniatures Painting - My Other Supplies Box is a First Aid Kit
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