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like if you think this guy would have influence in a keith/sanders party lol https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/806214073025073152
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"someone else should kill all bankers someday, in an imaginary future where it is not only allowed but legally required" is getting p old and tired as a motto
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I mentally picture Zordon when people talk about Haim Saban, and I'm not interested in correcting that mental image. As for the Democratic party, they're so poorly organized at the local level that I'm almost surprised that Republicans haven't organized to have some of their members switch parties and take over. Or maybe they succeeded.
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Main Paineframe posted:"someone else should kill all bankers someday, in an imaginary future where it is not only allowed but legally required" is getting p old and tired as a motto i would kill bankers with a rock tomorrow if they made it legal
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you're right this new workers democratic party need a new motto how about "eat the rich" that's a p good one imo
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i'd take my loving time too
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Fansy posted:Keith Ellison shouldn't head the DNC because he doesn't love Israel enough Broward county is Israel is Judiasm Broward county is Israel is Judiasm Broward county is Israel is Judiasm
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Zikan posted:like if you think this guy would have influence in a keith/sanders party lol Daou is dangerously close to realizing people would like jobs, and jobs that pay more that $12.50/hour.
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Grondoth posted:It's not courageous to say "your jobs aren't coming back" to people who, deep down, fuckin' know their jobs aren't. It's mean. A politician without a vision for the future isn't really a political figure, they're an elected manager. Yeah, it's not hard to figure out who wins in this fight. https://twitter.com/SamAdlerBell/status/806220388485201920
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How many of these whiny stay-home Bernie-bros would like a million-dollar job to give stupid advice to a moron about how to lose a campaign to a man with brain damage??
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Zikan posted:like if you think this guy would have influence in a keith/sanders party lol https://twitter.com/IHeartFlossing/status/806214627113705473 lol
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also lol, this paragraph from that observer articlequote:One of Mr. Ellison’s supporters for the DNC position is Symone Sanders, a former spokeswoman for Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign. Recently, on CNN, she dismissed the idea of Howard Dean returning as DNC Chairman, commenting, “We don’t need white people leading the Democratic Party right now.”
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"How many Jacobin-purist Antoinette-bashers railing against Versailles would eat cake in a heartbeat if they could?"
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Mirthless posted:Nah gently caress it dude what's the point 
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Zikan posted:"How many Jacobin-purist Antoinette-bashers railing against Versailles would eat cake in a heartbeat if they could?"
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My dad was bribed to stop giving speeches by his comrades with restaurant vouchers, you guys have no idea how rad full socialism is.
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Joementum posted:Yeah, it's not hard to figure out who wins in this fight. One of my biggest pet peeve's is morons saying that it's lying to tell these people that we can and will give them good high earning jobs. Like politics should be all about the inevitable rather than moving in a desired direction edit: and yes I know I was one of the morons
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Mirthless posted:i would kill bankers with a rock tomorrow if they made it legal lmao yeah the revolution will be successful any day now with self-sacrificing heroes like you at the helm
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Venom Snake posted:One of my biggest pet peeve's is morons saying that it's lying to tell these people that we can and will give them good high earning jobs. Like politics should be all about the inevitable rather than moving in a desired direction Yeah that's what I was trying to say. There seems to be this idea that we either tell these people that they're going to be destitute and die penniless with their towns dead and their progeny gone, or we lie to them and tell them everything's gonna be fine. Like, fuckin'... cmon man! Don't you have a vision for the future? Can't you see a world that's better than this one?
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Nameless_Steve posted:
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even Clintonite inner circle people think Peter Daou is weird let that sink in for a minute
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somewhere in ohio, john boehner has a hearty chuckle as he watches a series of trucks unload metric tons of boxed wine into his underground nuclear bunker
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paranoid randroid posted:even Clintonite inner circle people think Peter Daou is weird He's the democratic bill mitchell
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Venom Snake posted:One of my biggest pet peeve's is morons saying that it's lying to tell these people that we can and will give them good high earning jobs. Like politics should be all about the inevitable rather than moving in a desired direction There's a difference between offering people genuine hope and prescribing people a poison pill. Blaming all manufacturing job losses since the 1970s on NAFTA is a poison pill. Demonizing trade between nations is a poison pill. Pledging to start a trade war is a poison pill. It's not that Clinton didn't talk about jobs or helping out working class voters, she did. The problem is that the poison pill was a lot more appetizing.
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Maybe Hillary could have gone "FULL SHALE GAS, CLEAN ENERGY BRIDGE FUEL NOW" and gained some votes idk For every waste of oxygen in Berkley, she might have gained two people in certain strategic areas on this map?  I mean people clearly don't give a poo poo about climate change at this point.
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It's looking plausible Clinton actually will end up with more votes than Obama in 12. Only about 400k behind at this point. Only further outlines how poor her strategy was, to receive that many votes and still lose. It's like she played chess against Trump starting with two queens and lost
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HorseRenoir posted:somewhere in ohio, john boehner has a hearty chuckle as he watches a series of trucks unload metric tons of boxed wine into his underground nuclear bunker
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Bloops Crusts posted:The problem is that the poison pill was a lot more appetizing. So it's actually not a poison pill.
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AceRimmer posted:55 gallon drums of powered alcohol stacked to the ceiling... "This is a good start" he says with a wry chuckle Then he rings up the pope's cell phone and they prank call Paul Ryan in the middle of the night and hang up while giggling like little schoolgirls.
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Joementum posted:So it's actually not a poison pill. its a very well plated poison pill like with the sauce drizzles
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Bloops Crusts posted:There's a difference between offering people genuine hope and prescribing people a poison pill. Blaming all manufacturing job losses since the 1970s on NAFTA is a poison pill. Demonizing trade between nations is a poison pill. Pledging to start a trade war is a poison pill. It's not that Clinton didn't talk about jobs or helping out working class voters, she did. The problem is that the poison pill was a lot more appetizing. The biggest killer of manufacturing job loss has been automation but you very rarely see that talked about. Clinton's platform had plenty of jobs and working class stuff but she never loving talked about it. For gods sake only 9% of her ads were about jobs. You don't need to lie to these people. Just tell them that you will work your rear end off to help them.
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Main Paineframe posted:"someone else should kill all bankers someday, in an imaginary future where it is not only allowed but legally required" is getting p old and tired as a motto Well we all have to offer people something to look forward to. I mean I also want a future where if you praise margret thatcher you have to complete a time in what we could call a "reflection center". Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 23:45 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:Then he rings up the pope's cell phone and they prank call Paul Ryan in the middle of the night and hang up while giggling like little schoolgirls.
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Bloops Crusts posted:There's a difference between offering people genuine hope and prescribing people a poison pill. Blaming all manufacturing job losses since the 1970s on NAFTA is a poison pill. Demonizing trade between nations is a poison pill. Pledging to start a trade war is a poison pill. It's not that Clinton didn't talk about jobs or helping out working class voters, she did. The problem is that the poison pill was a lot more appetizing. it's possible to talk about the negative effects of trade tho in fact even though the economics field is streotyped as protrade there is an actual split (mostly between people who take the labor economics side of "hey the affected workers are people who need to eat" vs the macroeconomic view of "beep boop labor is a commodity that can be treated exactly like a tanker full of oil that waits in port for years for the price to go up")
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Bloops Crusts posted:There's a difference between offering people genuine hope and prescribing people a poison pill. Blaming all manufacturing job losses since the 1970s on NAFTA is a poison pill. Demonizing trade between nations is a poison pill. Pledging to start a trade war is a poison pill. It's not that Clinton didn't talk about jobs or helping out working class voters, she did. The problem is that the poison pill was a lot more appetizing. She hardly did. We know this.
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Joementum posted:So it's actually not a poison pill. i dunno i've heard cyanide tastes like almonds and who doesn't like almonds
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Joementum posted:So it's actually not a poison pill. No, you're thinking of a bitter pill. Fulchrum has issued a correction as of 22:31 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Various technocrats have been predicting the automation of most/all labor for 200 years. Maybe self-driving cars and learning machines will really take off and make a big run to that end- but I think Dems should stop putting off real concerns about today's labor issues because of this idea that it's not going to matter in X years anyways.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i dunno i've heard cyanide tastes like almonds and who doesn't like almonds It smells like almonds but when you taste it you don't pay attention to how it tastes because you start suffocating as the cyanide kills you slowly and painfully
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