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FlamingLiberal posted:I liked how that CGI Enterprise D looked but that was it Didn't Gabe Köerner (the weirdo from Trekkies who did that hideous 1701 redesign) provide the CGI model for that?
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No idea. I'm not familiar with that guy
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Timby posted:Didn't Gabe Köerner (the weirdo from Trekkies who did that hideous 1701 redesign) provide the CGI model for that? Yes, he actually works professionally in VFX now. If I recall he did the CG Ent-D from scratch for that one shot because the only one they had was leftover from DS9 and not suitable for HDTV.
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I'm pretty sure he modified an existing model he'd already done. It has elements of both the 4 and 6 footers. Colour's a bit off, but that's hard as hell to get right - the actual physical Enterprise-D filming models were patterns of blue and green, weirdly enough. Fun fact: only time any saucer rim windows have ever been lit up onscreen. Too narrow to get lights in there on the physical model. Well, 'fun' fact. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Has Avery Brooks ever commented on why he almost entirely retired from acting after DS9?
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Your avatar is Orson Wells, you know why he stopped acting.
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It was my impression that he hasn't retired, but he was always more of a theatre actor rather than film or TV so you don't see him much. Not to mention, his regular job is a university professor in acting.
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I think in the end I really ended up enjoying Enterprise. Overall it has a lot of faults but they shook most of it off by the start of season three and season four is straight up classic Trek. Kind of a bummer it didn't get the full seven year run.
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(Crossposted from the Obsolete Technology thread, where they're having a tangent about props) I've never seen this mentioned before, but the Jem'Hadar ships on Deep Space Nine had some grey blocky vent tube thingies in the back that were made from some specific brand (they all look a bit different) of septic infiltrator chamber.  
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dont even fink about it posted:Has Avery Brooks ever commented on why he almost entirely retired from acting after DS9? He used up all his emotions playing Sisko, now he just sits and stares out the window
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his mind has been replaced with pure jazz all that remains is the poetry
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The Sisko is of Louisiana
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The Brooks is non-sensical. Musical. We do not understand.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:It was my impression that he hasn't retired, but he was always more of a theatre actor rather than film or TV so you don't see him much. Not to mention, his regular job is a university professor in acting. I can think of worse things than being taught how to act by a guy who was the lead in a major network show for 7 years. I guess actors do sometimes step into teaching acting rather than continuing to pick up various roles, but I just never really thought it happened due to the large amount of money they make at the top levels. I suppose there are plenty of professors or general instructors/teachers whose greatest claim to fame is a decent run as a play actor or as some person with a few speaking lines on various shows. Ah well, the allure of being a proper star doesn't appeal to everyone, Joffrey went off to college instead of taking what must have been insanely prestigious and lucrative acting offers after all. I've been watching a lot of Next Generation after the Greatest Generation reignited my enjoyment of Star Trek, and while hopping around I've seen so many little moments and storylines that I can't wait for them to tackle. It's going to be so entertaining  .I've also been poking around Memory Alpha here and there, and learned that the general synopsis of fairly recent Star Trek books sound pretty rad. It has Ro Laren and Ezri Dax in major captain roles, a big fat Borg invasion, and an alliance of basically every Trek bad-guy faction teaming up against Starfleet after the Borg attack. I mean it sounds like fanservice of the best kind. I greatly enjoyed the Star Wars EU/Legends books (perhaps partly because I never went completely down the EU rabbit hole where absolutely insane stuff happened), now I'm thinking I need to at least give a few Star Trek books set in the post Next Generation/DS9 time period a chance to grab my interest. WickedHate posted:There was a recent Iron Man story where he'd gone evil and did exactly that(nanomachines, son!). The evil part comes when it turns out it was just "a free trial" and he rips it away and starts charging an obscene amount for it. Off the top of my head he was charging $100 a day, or something in that neighborhood. I chalk it up to Evil Tony knowing what would get him the most money and setting the price there, consequences on the people who can't afford it be damned. That whole comic arc was a decently fun time, it really showed the potential danger of an evil Iron Man, but one who still wants to think he's the good guy on some level. For instance, Daredevil gets wise to how evil Tony's being and instead of killing him, Tony uses Extremis to give him back his eyesight. When that doesn't get him on board (because c'mon, of course it wouldn't) he uses some fancy science to mindwipe him and is like "Oh yeah we just threw down with the Hulk (or whoever), man that was crazy but I fixed you up, see ya!" A fun little tidbit that I like to think was intentional is that shortly before this, Tony went on a quest to destroy or control Extremis tech after it had gotten loose in the world and saw it as a danger, and evil Tony's just like "cool I've got this, I''ll spread it around and make some money."
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NowonSA posted:It has Ro Laren and Ezri Dax in major captain roles How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy?
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Lordshmee posted:How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy? Because she's hot.
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Lordshmee posted:How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy? They mistook her for Kira.
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Kibayasu posted:They mistook her for Kira. In another time line she made Admiral.
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Platonicsolid posted:In another time line she made Admiral. Being the PotUS' bodyguard has perks, I guess.
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Thinking of Ro getting made Captain before Harry Kim gets made Lieutenant is fantastic.
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Lordshmee posted:How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy? In a really good version of Voyager produced in an alternate reality.
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Lordshmee posted:How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy? Bajoran affirmative action.
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Lordshmee posted:How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy? No clue on the details, but my impression is that she gets reinstated in Starfleet after they chill on the status of the Maquis a bit, or she does some cool heroic space thing, ends up as the new DS9 security chief, and then rises up to running DS9/sometimes captaining a ship? Hey man, cream rises to the top, what can I say? Whenever I see Ro in Next Gen I always end the episode thinking I want more of the character, so I'm cool with whatever quasi-canon promotions she gets.
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Ro Laren as captain can only end in disaster
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Spoeank posted:Ro Laren as captain can only end in disaster Admiral Helena Cain did nothing wrong.
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Spoeank posted:Ro Laren as captain can only end in disaster I'm With Her.
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Mister Adequate posted:Admiral Helena Cain did nothing wrong. It might be hard to admit, or hard to hear. But I think that we were safer with her than we are without.
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Ok so I just started Voyager and watched the first ep. Already Janeway has hosed over the crew in her mad quest for glory. They were perfectly capable of using the array to get home the same way they got there but leaving the array standing would allow one alien race to kill/subjugate another. Tuvok says that this is the natural power balance of this sector and interfering would violate the Prime Directive. Janeway blows it up, trapping her crew and Chakotay's in the Delta Quadrant. Now they've got to go on one of the longest and most unique Starfleet exploration missions of all time with Janeway in command, naturally.
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I know that's a popular issue with VOY, but in fairness Tuvok does say that it's going to take hours to sort out a return journey and they're getting their asses kicked by increasing numbers of Kazon. Plus, destroying the Array in order to save the Ocampans (at least temporarily) even if it leads to anything from massive inconvenience to death is very much in keeping with Starfleet's ethos of self-sacrifice and generally being good and decent. There are a lot of reasons to take issue with Voyager but I've never honestly found the Array issue to be one of them.
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Mister Adequate posted:Admiral Helena Cain did nothing wrong. allowing a prisoner to be used as a sex slave for the crew is highly hosed up
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:allowing a prisoner to be used as a sex slave for the crew is highly hosed up Look at this guy who thinks toasters are people
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YOU CANT RRRRRRRRAPE A MACHINE *spittle flies everywhere*
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NowonSA posted:I've also been poking around Memory Alpha here and there, and learned that the general synopsis of fairly recent Star Trek books sound pretty rad. It has Ro Laren and Ezri Dax in major captain roles, a big fat Borg invasion, and an alliance of basically every Trek bad-guy faction teaming up against Starfleet after the Borg attack. I mean it sounds like fanservice of the best kind. I greatly enjoyed the Star Wars EU/Legends books (perhaps partly because I never went completely down the EU rabbit hole where absolutely insane stuff happened), now I'm thinking I need to at least give a few Star Trek books set in the post Next Generation/DS9 time period a chance to grab my interest. Lordshmee posted:How exactly does twice-treasonous, noted Maquis terrorist, former ensign Ro Laren wind up with a third-chance captaincy?
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Voyager Episode 2: While trapped in a strange space anomaly the Holo-Doctor's image is affected, causing him to constantly decrease in height. He makes repeated requests for someone to come and fix the problem, saying that if it continues he will be too small to treat patients. Despite several crew members having their physical health affected by the same anomaly, at no point does anyone bother to have the only Doctor on the ship able to treat anyone. At the end of the episode after everything is back to normal, Paris drops by the Sick Bay to bandage a cut on his hand and make fun of the Doctor because he has still not been repaired.
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I love how they barely pay lip service to the fact that the real doctor and all the nurses were killed in the first episode and they're super hosed if say, the holodoc goes offline in an attack and there's no one to help you with your plasma burns. They train Paris (the pilot who's probably PRETTY BUSY) for an episode or two and then Kes steps in. Good plan on training the kid who only lives 9 years to be the medical backup for your 70 year journey.
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I was you, two months ago. I'm starting S6 soon but compared to other shows I was watching from start to finish, Voyager has been exceptionally slow because it's so bad at times.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:It was my impression that he hasn't retired, but he was always more of a theatre actor rather than film or TV so you don't see him much. Not to mention, his regular job is a university professor in acting.
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MorgaineDax posted:I love how they barely pay lip service to the fact that the real doctor and all the nurses were killed in the first episode and they're super hosed if say, the holodoc goes offline in an attack and there's no one to help you with your plasma burns. They train Paris (the pilot who's probably PRETTY BUSY) for an episode or two and then Kes steps in. Good plan on training the kid who only lives 9 years to be the medical backup for your 70 year journey. I always wondered why they didn't reassign some of the remaining science crew to medical. Some of them would have useful biology backgrounds, surely?
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Logically, yeah, but in terms of making a Star Trek show, that would have required one of the core cast to be a science officer for the pilot, to be moved into a pseudo-doctor role for the rest of the show - in practical terms, using an important cast member as a holographic doctor achieves the same thing and gives you ~hologram!~ shenanigans on top. Using Paris as a "nurse" briefly makes some sense if you're just fresh out of options, but bringing him back in that role after Kes "evolves" is dumb. They totally should have used someone else at this point, but then you'd need a recurring role (because the doctor has become such a fixture by then so he and sickbay showed up every 2nd episode or so) just for that and why do that if you just want to use the same ten or so people for everything, right? 
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