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Dana Crysalis posted:ATTENTION GOONS: I have prepared. Yell at me on Discord if you have not got me on your list, this is probably one of the best ways we can get through this poo poo trial. Wouldn't a ribbon be better than one of those bracers? Trial boss's got a 50% paralyze attack he'll use normally, and a threshold 100% area of effect blind (plus silence) attack that'll likely happen three times unless you really blitz him down. Otherwise, that's a pretty sweet lightning no doubt.
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I am not ready for the next trial Ive no idea how to beat plant thing
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Are there any ways to restore MP other than Ethers and Bartz's Suicide Skill?
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Osmose on Ramuh I think? E: and Diabolos + assorted characters
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The man called M posted:Are there any ways to restore MP other than Ethers and Bartz's Suicide Skill? they're all character specific like Lance, convert, etc there's also traffic cone fina's skill but it only gives 10% mp back.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:58
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Did they break the game for anyone else? It won't go past the opening logos without crashing now.
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Dec 8, 2016 08:01
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Nuebot posted:Did they break the game for anyone else? It won't go past the opening logos without crashing now. It's extended maintenance.
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I swear I saw a 660 MAG ExDeath somewhere on my friendslist before going to bed  and oh that trial e: oh Vax
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The man called M posted:Are there any ways to restore MP other than Ethers and Bartz's Suicide Skill? Rosa's LB. Miracle of Baron is actually really up there in terms of usefullness.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Calling it now: When Orlandu comes out he won't actually get a rate up on his banner, or it'll be a smaller rate up than units normally get. This has been confirmed on Orlandus JP banner. He had a realistic chance of 0.0125% on that banner. Delivered after an average of ~550 pulls or something. MrLonghair posted:I swear I saw a 660 MAG ExDeath somewhere on my friendslist before going to bed Sup. 
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So uh... Word of advice, don't randomly use Carbuncle if you're looking to heal your team. Edit: Looking at datamined info, expect a Christmas banner with Saint Nicholas and snow cone Fina. Or reindeers Rain/Lasswell/Charlotte. HGH fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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gently caress that lovely VLC hat character bullshit. I want my xmas sale 50% off Lapis bundles. Make it happen! But I mean if this 0.0125% 550 pull for Orlandu bullshit turns out to be true you would need to spend 250000 Lapis on average to get him. Maybe I just stop spending money and try to get him on a Daily pull.
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i am just going to spend all of my lapis and tickets trying for a lightning again. orlandu will come on a daily half price pull, or never. spoilers: it will be never. also the same for lightning
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Vax posted:gently caress that lovely VLC hat character bullshit. I want my xmas sale 50% off Lapis bundles. Make it happen! When whaling for orlandu is it worth doing 11 pulls or no?
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If you're gonna chase a rainbow then calculations posted here show 11 pulls are better I think, but either way you shouldn't do it.
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Maintenance pushed another 4 hours. I don't even know why they bother giving actual time updates. These guys always go long with their maintenance and this time it even seems like they started early.
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Conspiracy theory time: Gumi is actually on our side and intentionally self sabotage to give us compensation rewards The reality though is that they're dumb.
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With games like this, are there any requirements that keep them from manipulating rates in a way that encourages people to spend money? For example, rewarding a player the first time they pull with cash. Punishing those that are ftp for long periods of time. Or whatever else could psychologically encourage people to whale out.
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Acelerion posted:With games like this, are there any requirements that keep them from manipulating rates in a way that encourages people to spend money? Mind games to get people to spend money is the entire point of these games. And it's legal. In JP there are all sorts of protection against rigging the actual odds. In fact, early on there was a great idea that in order to make an uber powerful unit, you would need other rare units from the gatcha. That was made outright illegal. Compensation in American games is a joke. In JP they lavish it in the players anytime there is a mistake. 'Oh, a rare unit didn't have the right odds? Here's ALL the gems you spent on that banner back.'
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Yeah rigging the odds is kind of what I'm wondering about. I accept that a slot machine is a cheep way to manipulate people out of money, but at least it has a fixed payout and is truly random.
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Kalas posted:In fact, early on there was a great idea that in order to make an uber powerful unit, you would need other rare units from the gatcha. That was made outright illegal. If you're like me and you like to trawl through the app stores playing whatever game has a cool looking icon, a good way to quickly know whether or not a gacha based game will be absolute poo poo is if the requirement to evolve or skill up a unit is that you have to have a duplicate of that same unit. It's not illegal everywhere, so a lot of games still have the insane super rare gacha units that require you to get more of them to make them useful. Acelerion posted:With games like this, are there any requirements that keep them from manipulating rates in a way that encourages people to spend money? Yes, but there's just as many loopholes and tricks to get around them to mess with people. Bandai in particular is really good at loving with their playerbase. I think I've talked about SD Gundam G Generation Frontier before, but the rarer units in that game had sub-1% drop rates. like, by the time I quit I think 0.001% was the going rate for the new "FR" rarity units. They got people to spend insane amounts of cash not only by making those the best units until the next monthly gacha, but by making the tickets you got for spending money different than the ones you got free. The premium tickets increased rarer unit rates by a tiny percentage, and since it was often fan favorite units that became FRs, people would whale non-stop not only to have a cool looking strong unit, but one they recognized and liked. Then by the end of the month it would be worthless and the next one would be mandatory to do the new events.
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Yeah but why bother rigging the odds when you can just have terrible odds for everyone and people still pay you for it. Similarly, why bother with a completion gacha in countries where they aren't against the law when you can just give the chase characters the same horrible odds as you would've had for pulling all the completion characters
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Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Global - Thread Maintenance Has Been Extended
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Nuebot posted:If you're like me and you like to trawl through the app stores playing whatever game has a cool looking icon, a good way to quickly know whether or not a gacha based game will be absolute poo poo is if the requirement to evolve or skill up a unit is that you have to have a duplicate of that same unit. It's not illegal everywhere, so a lot of games still have the insane super rare gacha units that require you to get more of them to make them useful. Phantom of the Kill is like this. I enjoyed that game for awhile, but I maxed out farmable monsters. If you want your waifu from the gatcha maxed? God help you.
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Nuebot posted:If you're like me and you like to trawl through the app stores playing whatever game has a cool looking icon, a good way to quickly know whether or not a gacha based game will be absolute poo poo is if the requirement to evolve or skill up a unit is that you have to have a duplicate of that same unit. It's not illegal everywhere, so a lot of games still have the insane super rare gacha units that require you to get more of them to make them useful. I missed this before but isn't that technically what Trust Mastery was intended as? They only added the "10% chance of .1%" and trust moogles later, as some sort of bullied concession.
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KataraniSword posted:Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Global - Thread Maintenance Has Been Extended Minimum of 10 hours maintenance, OMG!
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KataraniSword posted:Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Global - Thread Maintenance Has Been Extended Fun fact: In JP there has only ONCE been extended Maintenance in all this time and guess what they got for compensation? 1000 loving Lapis, thats right
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Vax posted:Fun fact: In JP there has only ONCE been extended Maintenance in all this time and guess what they got for compensation? 1000 loving Lapis, thats right If Brave Frontier taught me anything, it's that Gumi may be a subsidiary of alim, but alim is by far the more competent company, and they're the ones that handle all the JP-side stuff and 90% of the content. Anything directly linked to global (be it maintenances, Global Exclusive content, global exclusive characters - hi, Black Cat Lid! - etc) is going to be a goddamn trashfire.
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KataraniSword posted:I missed this before but isn't that technically what Trust Mastery was intended as? They only added the "10% chance of .1%" and trust moogles later, as some sort of bullied concession. I don't know about the grind chance coming later in JP, but it was always in global. Trust moogles might've been the result of complaints. The TMRs probably are closer to skirting completion gacha laws in Japan, considering they ban for macroing from what I've heard, so it's either moogles or duplicates for most of their trust gain
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Shark Tower posted:Wouldn't a ribbon be better than one of those bracers? Trial boss's got a 50% paralyze attack he'll use normally, and a threshold 100% area of effect blind (plus silence) attack that'll likely happen three times unless you really blitz him down. I figured the damage/HP bonus from the bracer was worth Esuna-ing her every so often. I do HAVE a Ribbon, though, so if that is necessary I can put it on her.
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Vax posted:Fun fact: In JP there has only ONCE been extended Maintenance in all this time and guess what they got for compensation? 1000 loving Lapis, thats right I see it as just a marketing ploy. Every maintenance, gumi extends by x hours. Everyone bitches and whines about it on forums (always easier to criticize than praise after all), bumping it to the front pages, which then gets it in the eyes of new players. We already know gumi doesn't care one lick about its reputation, so what do they got to lose? I mean, it's still pretty drat gross and manipulating and I don't know why any of you still give gumi money, but hey. Dana Crysalis posted:I figured the damage/HP bonus from the bracer was worth Esuna-ing her every so often. I do HAVE a Ribbon, though, so if that is necessary I can put it on her. I guess it's hard to say. My general approach to trials tends to favor surviveability over damage racing, which has served me pretty well so far. It's up to you of course. Shark Tower fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Maintenance was extended to 14:00 PST Hope you like lapis.
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Go RV! posted:Maintenance was extended to 14:00 PST Results are datamined already. A sixteen hour maintenance is the equivalent of 450 lapis and 60 EN.
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Shark Tower posted:
No, I'm generally the same way about this, and usually have the ribbon on her. But this jerk is a damage race because of the 5-round guaranteed death, so I'd rather waste half of Refia's turn on an Esuna then lose the 30 attack that might be needed. Plus most everyone has CoD or a healer with Esuna by now. I think.
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yay free ticket Also oh man until 2PM Pacific, what the hell did they break Shoenin fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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So with that extremely low rate for Orrandu is it even worth saving tickets for it or should I blow them trying to get a lightning? I don't have a lightning so unless her rates are also abysmally low then I think I should spend my saved tickets on her...although I'm sure I'll just get Bediled either way.
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I just did some math for someone regarding leveling an Exdeath and thought I'd share (because it's loving depressing): Exdeath is growth pattern 4 for 3-5* rarity and growth pattern 6 for 6*. 3* 1-40: 194,806 XP 4* 1-60: 548,366 XP 5* 1-80: 1,137,652 6* 1-100: 1,993,672 Total XP: 3,874,496 Total Gigantaurs needed: 130 Total solo Mystic Woods runs needed: 60 Total time needed (assuming 20 min per MW run): 1,200 minutes or 20 hours Gross.
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rio posted:So with that extremely low rate for Orrandu is it even worth saving tickets for it or should I blow them trying to get a lightning? I don't have a lightning so unless her rates are also abysmally low then I think I should spend my saved tickets on her...although I'm sure I'll just get Bediled either way. I don't think the rates for Orlandu are actually anything worse than the usual five star banner rates, they're just god awful generally, because you not only have to pull a five star crystal, you have to roll that character from the entire pool of characters once you have. The banner just makes your chances slightly higher of hitting that character if you do get a 5* is all. So I guess what I'm saying is your luck will be abysmal either way, but Orlandu's the superior character, so
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rio posted:So with that extremely low rate for Orrandu is it even worth saving tickets for it or should I blow them trying to get a lightning? I don't have a lightning so unless her rates are also abysmally low then I think I should spend my saved tickets on her...although I'm sure I'll just get Bediled either way. The thing about Orlando Bloom's banner is that you HAVE to get him (or something good off banner) for it to be worth going all in. Assuming we get the same banner, everyone aside from Orlando is straight up garbage with crappy TMs. It's not like lightnings first banner, where going all in and not getting lightning meant you'd still pick up Charlotte and/or a few dualcasts. That said, this upcoming lightning banner is pretty much the same. Both Hope and Fang are subpar with crappy TMs. Lightning herself, while good, won't compare to Orlando. Personally, I'd skip both banners, and wait for the next two God tier units, a.k.a. Eileen and Tidus. Their banners at least have pretty good to amazing consolation prizes in the event that you miss getting either of those two. Shark Tower fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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