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Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Kibayasu posted:

I don't remember Wrex headbutting anybody except that rear end in a top hat who wants Grunt.

Ah, you're right, Wreav isn't in 2 at all if you have Wrex alive. I was mixing him up with Gatatog Uvenk, the rear end in a top hat to Grunt.
So he's just in 3.

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Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Zzulu posted:

EDI getting a robot body was something I liked a lot because I liked EDI a lot

The crippled dude romancing her didn't bother me much either because it wasn't too in your face. You could ignore or skip past most of the dialogue, of which there wasnt much, if you wanted to

Robot body was dumb but the Alliance Infiltration Bot was great in multiplayer so once again a dumb singleplayer thing pays off

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Kibayasu posted:

I don't remember Wrex headbutting anybody except that rear end in a top hat who wants Grunt.

That was Worf. Even in other franchises, he still loses every fight.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Mazerunner posted:

Kai LAME indirectly gave us the N7 Slayer in mutliplayer which despite being a big weeaboo class was cool and fun to play

you could teleport through the window and 10 vertical feet between the two floor on firebase glacier that was super handy

e; remember firebase white gold geth farming? good times

Sooo I actually went back and not only are there people playing ME3 multiplayer (alot too, I never have to wait more then a few seconds to get a game AND there is no lag) its possible (and easy) to Cheat Engine a crap ton of credits to buy packages with. Like rumor has it that the dude that did the MP banning doesn't even work for EA any more.

I'm loving actually getting all the classes/weapons I missed out on and messing around with them.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Ah I forgot Worf was in ME2. That's what's missing from Andromeda- shameless Star Trek stunt casting.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

marktheando posted:

Ah I forgot Worf was in ME2. That's what's missing from Andromeda- shameless Star Trek stunt casting.

He was easy to miss between all the firefly, Galactica, farscape and matrix alumni

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

chiasaur11 posted:

You could also tell them it wouldn't work and prevent the relationship from ever happening.

Mass Effect 3, for all its faults, had some amazing branching. Let's put aside that Wrex and Mordin could both be dead, with interesting, well written replacements. If they're both alive, you've got three main routes.

1) Saved cure: Wrex and Shepard, together again, like old times.

2) Destroyed cure, apologize immediately: Wrex would like it to be like old times again, but is unsure if he can trust you since, you know, you dicked his entire species over something fierce, no matter your intentions

3) Told Wrex you made the right call destroying the cure: Wrex doesn't like you any more.

I agree that Mass Effect 3 has some amazing branching in a world where CD Projekt, Obsidian, and several dozen other developers never existed.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Zzulu posted:

EDI getting a robot body was something I liked a lot because I liked EDI a lot

The crippled dude romancing her didn't bother me much either because it wasn't too in your face. You could ignore or skip past most of the dialogue, of which there wasnt much, if you wanted to

her dumb titty bot body was stupid as hell

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Chomp8645 posted:

I agree that Mass Effect 3 has some amazing branching in a world where CD Projekt, Obsidian, and several dozen other developers never existed.

You know something can still be good even if it's not the best, right?

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Chomp8645 posted:

I agree that Mass Effect 3 has some amazing branching in a world where CD Projekt, Obsidian, and several dozen other developers never existed.

ME3 had an enormous amount of poo poo to track over three games. CDPR did some of that with Witcher 3, but not nearly to the extent Bioware had. So yeah, the branching is very impressive considering how many different choices ME3 kept track of from the previous two games.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Yeah it's ok I guess. I just kind of lol at calling it "amazing". I'd put more at like "the minimum reactivity expected from a AAA role playing game".

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Chomp8645 posted:

Yeah it's ok I guess. I just kind of lol at calling it "amazing". I'd put more at like "the minimum reactivity expected from a AAA role playing game".

I can't think of other series that have done that kind of major plot reactivity across multiple games.

Of course the rest of ME3 was a letdown in that regard too.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Doctor Spaceman posted:

I can't think of other series that have done that kind of major plot reactivity across multiple games.

Of course the rest of ME3 was a letdown in that regard too.

I was just commenting on the reactivity of the plot line in general and not specifically the "cross game" aspect. I feel this is necessary just because if you were to measure "cross game decisions" as a thing the pool would be so small that it would be inherently biased.

I mean Bioware itself has probably made half the games out there that even feature save importation as a thing.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Challenge: plan out a direct sequel to Alpha Protocol that is noticeably reactive to every major decision the player makes and most of the minor ones

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Pattonesque posted:

Challenge: plan out a direct sequel to Alpha Protocol that is noticeably reactive to every major decision the player makes and most of the minor ones

*Makes the sequel a prequel instead*

"Phew, really dodged a bullet there!"

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Moola posted:

her dumb titty bot body was stupid as hell

she looked like a woman, since her voice was female

maybe they shoulda put clothes on her but robots in clothes look weird

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
or made her into like a huge death mech..,

but that might have been imbalanced for gameplay

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Chomp8645 posted:

I was just commenting on the reactivity of the plot line in general and not specifically the "cross game" aspect. I feel this is necessary just because if you were to measure "cross game decisions" as a thing the pool would be so small that it would be inherently biased.

I mean Bioware itself has probably made half the games out there that even feature save importation as a thing.

The reason most series haven't done it is because it's a huge pain to do, which is why it's worth noting.

Rannoch is the only other time in the series they tried and they still fell short. Meanwhile you've got things like the Rachni Queen and the Collector Base which might as well have not been choices in the first place, given how little impact they had.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Zzulu posted:

she looked like a woman, since her voice was female

maybe they shoulda put clothes on her but robots in clothes look weird

she looked like a 14 year olds idea of a sexy robot lady and it was dumb as hell

Joker constantly perving on her made it even worse

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene
There's a lot of stuff in ME3 where I picture Mac Walters in his hat he uses to cover up the fact that he's bald sitting there looking over an artist's shoulder and saying "loving Badass"

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Edi did have roboclothes but they were sexy

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Hmm...100% of my posts in this thread so far have been about sexy robots. I gotta talk about something else

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QbxqVdNtw&t=21s

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Chomp8645 posted:

Yeah it's ok I guess. I just kind of lol at calling it "amazing". I'd put more at like "the minimum reactivity expected from a AAA role playing game".

Funny how literally everything except Mass Effect 3 and a handful of other titles (like, two, three tops) fall below the minimum bar you're setting, then.

I don't think including save imports for choices makes it inherently biased or whatever, the whole point of the comparison is that it's insanely hard to do that well and ME3 does it. Like, here's what the industry standard thing to do would have been: have Wrex die at the start of the genophage plot no matter what and then you have to work with Wreav, or have Mordin not appear in the game at all and make Padok Wiks the default.

That wouldn't be taking the low road either, it would be doing what almost every other comparable title does in those sorts of heavily branched situations. Those aren't even decisions from this game: the whole Wrex/Wreav thing is based on a decision players made in a game from 2007. The fact that they acknowledge it at all is cool, but the fact that it has a significant effect on the game's plot and causes heavy branching is bonkers and incomparable to anything else in the industry.

Look at how a company like Telltale, for instance, handles player-reactive character deaths: they just make sure it stops mattering within a few hours of gameplay so that they don't have to develop extra content for the branching. And that's not them being lazy, that's them submitting to one of the difficult realities of game development. For all its failings ME3 managing to skirt this and really make the carry-over choices count is a significant achievement.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I agree with you there that Telltale is bottom-of-the-barrel poo poo when it comes to genuine reactivity. They try to hide it with a lot of smoke and mirrors but their stories are barely more reactive that Shooter-Of-The-Year Corridor Plot. This is separate point from the overall quality of their writing.

Bioware definitely does a better job than they do when it comes to that stuff.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Ainsley McTree posted:

Hmm...100% of my posts in this thread so far have been about sexy robots. I gotta talk about something else

we could talk about sexy aliens instead

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Moola posted:

she looked like a 14 year olds idea of a sexy robot lady and it was dumb as hell

Joker constantly perving on her made it even worse
Don't forget the modeled camel toe :gonk:

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Hey, someone got a close up of the new Andromeda alien in the gameplay trailer

http://adaerika.tumblr.com/post/154121881184/here-are-the-new-aliens-shown-in-the-gameplay

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
does it have a nice butt

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

SgtSteel91 posted:

Hey, someone got a close up of the new Andromeda alien in the gameplay trailer

http://adaerika.tumblr.com/post/154121881184/here-are-the-new-aliens-shown-in-the-gameplay

Barber: What you want?
Alien: Gimme that purple mushroom head
Barber: I got u fam

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

SgtSteel91 posted:

Hey, someone got a close up of the new Andromeda alien in the gameplay trailer

http://adaerika.tumblr.com/post/154121881184/here-are-the-new-aliens-shown-in-the-gameplay

Can I gently caress it

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

SgtSteel91 posted:

Hey, someone got a close up of the new Andromeda alien in the gameplay trailer

http://adaerika.tumblr.com/post/154121881184/here-are-the-new-aliens-shown-in-the-gameplay

its cool that they have human faces

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

Moola posted:

its cool that they have human faces

Remember that's so they can use really heavy allegory and not because they are reusing animation rigs

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
they would really have dropped the ball if i can not gently caress it

like what is even the point of this game if its not about boldly loving new alien species wherever we go

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Zzulu posted:

does it have a nice butt

I think the question everyone is asking is, "Can I gently caress it?"

E: Beaten like a fat lonely nerd's dick while watching youporn

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Remember that's so they can use really heavy allegory and not because they are reusing animation rigs

check out these new Andromeda aliens

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


still waiting for actual aliens, the elcor and hanar were cool in the trilogy, it can't be that hard

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

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Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

BexGu posted:

Sooo I actually went back and not only are there people playing ME3 multiplayer (alot too, I never have to wait more then a few seconds to get a game AND there is no lag) its possible (and easy) to Cheat Engine a crap ton of credits to buy packages with. Like rumor has it that the dude that did the MP banning doesn't even work for EA any more.

I'm loving actually getting all the classes/weapons I missed out on and messing around with them.

How do I cheat engine those credits?

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