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bobkatt013 posted:Also X-23 is on the cover for Prime so she aint going anywhere Yeah, but that's just a 'this is where the X-men are at right now' one-shot. She's not actually been solicited as a part of any of the team books to my knowledge.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yeah, but that's just a 'this is where the X-men are at right now' one-shot. She's not actually been solicited as a part of any of the team books to my knowledge. yeah. I wonder if Extraordinary is continuing with a new team. Evan is also missing. With Old Man Logan ending and Extraordinary Lemire is out of two books. Plus not sure about Bloodshot so thats another one.
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Singularity is in Avengers Academy's current event, and I realized, where is she right now? Has she appeared since A-force ended in anything?
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twistedmentat posted:Singularity is in Avengers Academy's current event, and I realized, where is she right now? Has she appeared since A-force ended in anything? Not that I've seen. Has she ever appeared outside of an A-Force issue?
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X-O posted:Some interesting stuff here on the new X-Men line. I love "Xavier with an Edge" Magneto so I'm more into this now. I really hope the inevitable "HAHAH, HE WAS ACTUALLY EVIL" followed by years of grey that happens every time 616 redeems Magneto can be held off for a while.
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Rick posted:I love "Xavier with an Edge" Magneto so I'm more into this now. I really hope the inevitable "HAHAH, HE WAS ACTUALLY EVIL" followed by years of grey that happens every time 616 redeems Magneto can be held off for a while. He has been a "good guy" now for 7 years, vs the 4 years he was the first time
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The big event that will raise mutant goodwill is just going to be someone showing them what happened in Death of X. Oh well that's not so bad, yay mutants!
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Aphrodite posted:The big event that will raise mutant goodwill is just going to be someone showing them what happened in Death of X. And send the inhuman royal family to the stars
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rantmo posted:Not that I've seen. Has she ever appeared outside of an A-Force issue? I don't think so, she didn't even show up in Secret Wars' big ending scenes as far as I could tell, I'd love to see more of Singularity at some point, maybe a cameo in Ultimates or Guardians of the Galaxy. Anime_Otaku fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Dec 10, 2016 |
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She'd fit right in in Ultimates or Miss America, and America herself gives a hook (plus Carol on Ultimates) to bring her in.
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I realise I often post very negative things in this thread. But I am so drat happy that Renew Your Vows was the 6th most sold book in November, where as Clone Conspiracy didn't even really register. I know eventually this will come back to suck, but I want to bottle up this feeling I have right now for a special cold day.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yeah, but that's just a 'this is where the X-men are at right now' one-shot. She's not actually been solicited as a part of any of the team books to my knowledge. all-new wolverine is continuing
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Blockhouse posted:all-new wolverine is continuing Team Books he said
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laura, gabby, and jonathon the wolverine are a team thank you
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bobkatt013 posted:And send the inhuman royal family to the stars Where they will fight Havok!
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yeah, but that's just a 'this is where the X-men are at right now' one-shot. She's not actually been solicited as a part of any of the team books to my knowledge. I'd be surprised if she didn't end up back on X-Men Blue. The interview said that Jean was the only female member right now, and Laura would work. Have her and Pixie join up or something.
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Codependent Poster posted:I'd be surprised if she didn't end up back on X-Men Blue. The interview said that Jean was the only female member right now, and Laura would work. Have her and Pixie join up or something. Why would you have Laura join the team she just left?
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Yvonmukluk posted:Why would you have Laura join the team she just left? Also I wouldn't really call it a team, it's 3 people and a mentor.
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Onmi posted:I realise I often post very negative things in this thread. But I am so drat happy that Renew Your Vows was the 6th most sold book in November, where as Clone Conspiracy didn't even really register. I know eventually this will come back to suck, but I want to bottle up this feeling I have right now for a special cold day.  Fingers crossed people stick with it.
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All we have is the November Top Ten, which means that Renew Your Vows is #6 for the month, behind two issues of Batman, the penultimate issue of Civil War II, All-Star Batman, #4, and the relaunch of Invincible Iron Man. Assuming that big books have relatively little attrition after the first few issues*, let's just transfer over the numbers from October to November for the established books: 1. Batman: ~125k 2. Batman: ~125k 3. Civil War II: 118k 4. All-Star Batman: 105k 5: Invincible Iron Man: 6: Renew Your Vows: New 7. Batman Annual: New 8. Venom: New 9. Walking Dead: 90,000 10. IVX: New * This is not strictly true, but let's assume Given that Walking Dead has been pretty consistent lately and Batman has as well, this means that Renew Your Vows #1 sold between 90k and 110k, which make no mistake is a very solid opening issue number. But it's also coming in a pretty soft month, which is part of why it ranked so high. Let's look at some other Marvel #1s from this calendar year: Champions: 328,000 Black Panther: 253,000 Poe Dameron: 175,000 Doctor Strange and the Sorcerors Supreme: 150,000 Spider-Man Deadpool: 134,000 Punisher: 111,000 Old Man Logan: 104,362 Gwenpool: 101,000 Captain America: Steve Rogers: 100,000 Spider-Man: 100,000 Uncanny X-Men: 93,000 RENEW YOUR VOWS IS PROBABLY ABOUT HERE Clone Conspiracy: 90,000 Deadpool Mercs for Money: 90,000 Power Man & Iron Fist: 79,000 Death of X: 76,000 Jessica Jones: 74,000 Infamous Iron Man: 74,000 International Iron Man: 71,000 A-Force: 66,000 Black Widow: 62,000 Moon Knight: 61,000 Rocket Raccoon & Groot: 59,000 Silver Surfer: 58,000 X-Men '92: 58,000 Captain Marvel: 53,000 Mockingbird: 42,000 Agents of SHIELD: 35,000 Nighthawk: 34,000 Hyperion: 32,000 For context, the first issue of the latest Amazing Spider-Man relaunch was 246,000, and it tapered off to selling around 75,000 before THE CLONE CONSPIRACY kicked off. Long story short, Renew Your Vows got good orders, as do most first issues, especially ones Marvel puts a bunch of ordering incentives behind. It sold well. Barring a sea change, it is not the sort of book that will get canceled after 6/12 issues. But if you're taking it outselling the core Spider-Man book in November as a referendum that people prefer Married Peter to Dan Slott Peter, I don't think that holds much water.
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Onmi posted:I realise I often post very negative things in this thread. But I am so drat happy that Renew Your Vows was the 6th most sold book in November, where as Clone Conspiracy didn't even really register. I know eventually this will come back to suck, but I want to bottle up this feeling I have right now for a special cold day. Yvonmukluk posted:
Isn't it a #1 with a bunch of variant covers? It would be pretty alarming for RYV if it didn't show up at all in its debut month.
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I'm actually surprised Mockingbird did so badly, relatively speaking, and that the Becky Cloonan Punisher and Gwenpool did so well. Maybe I'm just more enamoured by pretty cover and interior art and less pulled to gimmicks than the average comic store? Poe Dameron probably should be surprising, but I feel like it hit just long enough after people realised that audiences clicked to Poe, Finn and Rey as a trio and not just swooning over how dreamy Matt The Radar Technician and his 8 pack are, that it's not.
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Mockingbird was bad and unfunny, Gwenpool is good and very funny. Open and shut case.
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From seeing posted panels from Gwenpool and reading Mockingbird, I would say they were both funny and kinda of tonally similar, just one has Gurihiru art and the other has a cool, but more 'naturalistic' style. Like, I wasn't making GBS threads on Gwenpool's content (or at least didn't mean to... Punisher sucked tho) just that if I was a retailer seeing 'what if Gwen Stacy was a Deadpool' and 'cool art on a character that's in a network TV show', I don't think I'd be ordering like 3 times as much of the former than the latter, so I thought maybe there was some variant cover or special deal for getting tons of Gwenpool. Maybe I'm wrong and it was just super popular.
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Mockingbird was an issue about Bobbi getting really fat away from being a Lindy West article. It's one of the most unfunny comics I've ever read. Yes, I know humor is subjective.
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Mockingbird was.... loving awful in my personal opinion. The only interest I ever saw in the comic was bile fascination. And once that wore off you had an audience that Marvel's been awful at courting as the only people left buying. Where as Gwenpool is a funny book, with broad appeal a nice cartoony artstyle which might not look as 'nice' as Mockingbird, but again, has a broader appeal. It also falls into the 'lovable loser' category of comic books. None of those books shock me with the positions they're in.
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Onmi posted:Mockingbird was.... loving awful in my personal opinion. The only interest I ever saw in the comic was bile fascination. And once that wore off you had an audience that Marvel's been awful at courting as the only people left buying. Where as Gwenpool is a funny book, with broad appeal a nice cartoony artstyle which might not look as 'nice' as Mockingbird, but again, has a broader appeal. It also falls into the 'lovable loser' category of comic books. None of those books shock me with the positions they're in. I don't know what bile fascination is but please don't agree with me.
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There are no funny Marvel books you actually all have bad taste. They have no ventriloquists and only one mime! Absurd. Gaz-L posted:I'm actually surprised Mockingbird did so badly, relatively speaking, and that the Becky Cloonan Punisher and Gwenpool did so well. Maybe I'm just more enamoured by pretty cover and interior art and less pulled to gimmicks than the average comic store? You're surprised Punisher did better than Mockingbird? Really? I can't name 3 people who can even identify Mockingbird in a picture even considering SHIELD (where they never called her Mockingbird.)
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While it was being published Mockingbird was one of the best running Marvel books and it's a shame it didn't sell better.
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That's probably hindsight, considering I'm one of the ones who actually bought Punisher and then went "why the gently caress am I reading this?" because it's the worst kind of Punisher comic where Frank's basically a slasher movie villain, but the villain is comically OTT "I will wear your skin" kinda guy and there's no other character in the book to give a gently caress about. Like, you might as well buy an Avatar book, because at least you'll get more bang for your goreporn buck. I get why Punisher as a brand would sell. I just don't get why THIS Punisher book would sell (which makes me sad, because I like Cloonan as an artist and wanted her to succeed both to show she could write and to show a woman could carry a title like that). And maybe it depends on what other parts of the internet you frequent, but I feel like I saw nothing but praise for Mockingbird (and again, the same for Gwenpool.) I am actually surprised that there's such a gulf between them for the people that posted. I feel like I had a similar conversation about Spider-Woman here about a year ago, though.
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Mockingbird was actually very good and funny and it sucks that it was selling worse than stuff like cloonans punisher which is just criminally boring
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site posted:Mockingbird was actually very good and funny and it sucks that it was selling worse than stuff like cloonans punisher which is just criminally boring this goon knows what's up. Mockingbird was amazing.
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I thought Mockingbird was great, but I'm really burnt out on self-aware comedies that I can't drum up any excitement for more comics like that, like Great Lakes Avengers.
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I dunno, the villain and lawyer in GLA are kind of saving it for me. I'm a little wary that the joke with Bertha is aiming higher than it can hit and just having her be 'angry fat lady'. I also laughed at the gag about the werewolf girl having a DeviantArt page.
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Mockingbird is among the best things to happen Marvel-wise in 2016. A goddamned shame it didn't take off and how twitter treated the writer.
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Gaz-L posted:I dunno, the villain and lawyer in GLA are kind of saving it for me. I'm a little wary that the joke with Bertha is aiming higher than it can hit and just having her be 'angry fat lady'. I also laughed at the gag about the werewolf girl having a DeviantArt page. The first issue that I read seemed pretty serviceable, but, eh, it just feels like I've read all of these jokes before. Jokes about useless and/or obscure powers, jokes about c and d-listers being useless idiots, and so on. Like, I get it and everything, but it feels like the same kind of material I've been reading since Superior Foes of Spider-Man.
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Obviously the harassment of Cain on Twitter was bad but at least it had the silver lining of making a bunch of people pretend that book was good.
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Is Mockingbird the new Squirrel Girl now where people just loudly yell back and forth about whether or not it's funny?
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Roth posted:Is Mockingbird the new Squirrel Girl now where people just loudly yell back and forth about whether or not it's funny? I hope so.
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fadam posted:Obviously the harassment of Cain on Twitter was bad but at least it had the silver lining of making a bunch of people pretend that book was good. The book was good, from the first issue. Not in some weird hindsight defense of the author way. I wrote many times in this thread that people should have been picking up the book because it was the best book of the week most weeks it came out. You seem to have a weird grudge against it though.
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