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100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Drugs shouldn't be legalized until there's a world wide Marxist government, duh

We're holding countless minorities hostage until class war is over; by the way, identity politics destroyed the democrats.

99 ed balloons

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MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Phi230 posted:

drugs have already been commodified that's not even in the cards

what is the natural thing that happens when a market grows, which would happen under legalization? growth of commodities like drugs explicitly involves imperialistic exploitation of resources in the third world, it will only grow


yall have a very myopic view, and when legalization happens you all are gonna shift to the next single issue and gasp when the inevitable atrocities and injustices occur abroad

or youll just not give a poo poo, and sit on your high horse smokin a big one, sayin, gently caress you got mine

So do you think I should be in a cage for smoking the icky sticky or no? Stop being so loving cryptic.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
and lo, upon the mountain Thulsa Doom said to Conan:

"I am the balls from which Ed flows"

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Phi230 posted:

nah go ahead its gonna make things marginally better just don't poo poo on me for thinking the fight is never over


umm so youre saying that weed, as an industry, didn't grow from legalization in CO and others?

Industry growth is not the same thing as percentage of people who use drugs.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

MaxxBot posted:

So do you think I should be in a cage for smoking the icky sticky or no? Stop being so loving cryptic.

no dude come on

you think a person having a meltdown about the implications of knee-jerk legalization without thoughtful regulation or further legislation actually wants to maintain the status quo? legalize everything imo but we have to be conscious of the ramifications of legalization and we have to address all the issues that cause mass incarceration

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
remember how people like to ignore that mlk jr was a socialist

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I never thought I'd see the day someone on the left used the words "knee jerk legalization" unironically

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Phi230 posted:

nah go ahead its gonna make things marginally better just don't poo poo on me for thinking the fight is never over
i'm not sure anyone actually in this discussion believes "the fight is over" after that

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Phi230 posted:

legalize everything imo but we have to be conscious of the ramifications of legalization and we have to address all the issues that cause mass incarceration

Okay yes agreed. Material analysis is good.

AHungryRobot
Oct 12, 2012

Phi230 posted:

no dude come on

you think a person having a meltdown about the implications of knee-jerk legalization without thoughtful regulation or further legislation actually wants to maintain the status quo? legalize everything imo but we have to be conscious of the ramifications of legalization and we have to address all the issues that cause mass incarceration

I'm pretty sure most people ITT agree on all that so I'm not sure who this is directed towards.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


how many posters will be left after they are done eating each other

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Industry growth is not the same thing as percentage of people who use drugs.

obviously but industry growth = more exploitation of workers

and by exploitation of workers, I mean when drug cartels and other organizations, get more money and grow their operations, they'll keep getting more literal slaves in horrible working conditions to grow said coca or opium

like drat look at something as innocuous as oil. Shell turned the Niger Delta into a post-apocalyptic hellscape marked by child slavery, abysmal working conditions, et al

what do you think drug corporations are gonna do? And mind you, cartels ARE nothing more than drug corporations

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

bump_fn posted:

remember how people like to ignore that mlk jr was a socialist

MLK as a figure has been so loving whitewashed

his assassination loving worked

if he were alive today i would think the whole civil rights movement would be painted in a very different light

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

UHD posted:

how many posters will be left after they are done eating each other

Only the centrists that poo poo on this thread once in a while apparently

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

Phi230 posted:

obviously but industry growth = more exploitation of workers

and by exploitation of workers, I mean when drug cartels and other organizations, get more money and grow their operations, they'll keep getting more literal slaves in horrible working conditions to grow said coca or opium

like drat look at something as innocuous as oil. Shell turned the Niger Delta into a post-apocalyptic hellscape marked by child slavery, abysmal working conditions, et al

what do you think drug corporations are gonna do? And mind you, cartels ARE nothing more than drug corporations

Why is anyone taking this guy seriously?

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Only the centrists that poo poo on this thread once in a while apparently

D&D will outlive us all and the Democrats will nominate Chelsea Clinton in 2020.

Serf
May 5, 2011


bump_fn posted:

remember how people like to ignore that mlk jr was a socialist

this is why the Cigarette Smoking Man assassinated him

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

FuriousxGeorge posted:

Why is anyone taking this guy seriously?

centrist raus

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Legalizing weed sucks, they legalized weed in my state and now they have all this tax revenue for schools and roads and tons of small business dispensaries have opened up and provided jobs to people while simultaneously reducing crime.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Ace of Baes posted:

Legalizing weed sucks, they legalized weed in my state and now they have all this tax revenue for schools and roads and tons of small business dispensaries have opened up and provided jobs to people while simultaneously reducing crime.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

AHungryRobot posted:

I'm pretty sure most people ITT agree on all that so I'm not sure who this is directed towards.

its not directed towards anybody its all impotent shouting at the world

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Phi230 posted:

obviously but industry growth = more exploitation of workers

and by exploitation of workers, I mean when drug cartels and other organizations, get more money and grow their operations, they'll keep getting more literal slaves in horrible working conditions to grow said coca or opium

like drat look at something as innocuous as oil. Shell turned the Niger Delta into a post-apocalyptic hellscape marked by child slavery, abysmal working conditions, et al

what do you think drug corporations are gonna do? And mind you, cartels ARE nothing more than drug corporations

Uhhh the weed in legal states comes from those states, they're not illegally importing weed from South America lol

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Phi230 posted:

obviously but industry growth = more exploitation of workers

and by exploitation of workers, I mean when drug cartels and other organizations, get more money and grow their operations, they'll keep getting more literal slaves in horrible working conditions to grow said coca or opium

like drat look at something as innocuous as oil. Shell turned the Niger Delta into a post-apocalyptic hellscape marked by child slavery, abysmal working conditions, et al

what do you think drug corporations are gonna do? And mind you, cartels ARE nothing more than drug corporations

Innocuous as oil?

Drug legalization is not the same thing as exploiting non renewable resources, in any sense.

You don't have to tell me what oil companies do to the environment. I've witnessed first hand what oil companies did to my country's forests, look at Yasuní.

Im still a firm believer that legalizing drugs in the US will be a good thing. The faster we do it the better.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Phi230 posted:

its not directed towards anybody its all impotent shouting at the world

sir this is the democratic autopsy thread not the PART TIME NIHILIST thread (aka the trump thread)

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Ace of Baes posted:

Legalizing weed sucks, they legalized weed in my state and now they have all this tax revenue for schools and roads and tons of small business dispensaries have opened up and provided jobs to people while simultaneously reducing crime.

What's it feel like to be a murderer

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

i'm not sure anyone actually in this discussion believes "the fight is over" after that

maybe not people in the thread, but the dem party and many people in the nation just want legalization for selfish ends or really do think of it as a one stop shop

i dont see anybody talking about any of this, its all legalization or decrim and nothing more, no analysis or policy or plans beyond that

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Innocuous as oil?

Drug legalization is not the same thing as exploiting non renewable resources, in any sense.

You don't have to tell me what oil companies do to the environment. I've witnessed first hand what oil companies did to my country's forests, look at Yasuní.

Im still a firm believer that legalizing drugs in the US will be a good thing. The faster we do it the better.

i think its a good thing too

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Phi230 posted:

maybe not people in the thread, but the dem party and many people in the nation just want legalization for selfish ends or really do think of it as a one stop shop

i dont see anybody talking about any of this, its all legalization or decrim and nothing more, no analysis or policy or plans beyond that

what the christ are you talking about

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Legalizing all drugs is a debate to have after weed is legal, right now it's more important to focus on the harmless drug that's physically harmless and is already accepted in society, after we do that, assuming it goes well, people will be much more open to hearing out the arguments for total decriminalization/legalization.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Tatsuta Age posted:

what the christ are you talking about

the lack of media attention beyond a sensational "legalize it"

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Phi230 posted:

maybe not people in the thread, but the dem party and many people in the nation just want legalization for selfish ends or really do think of it as a one stop shop

i dont see anybody talking about any of this, its all legalization or decrim and nothing more, no analysis or policy or plans beyond that
the only way to force a top down assault on society is a societal collapse that involves over half of the population dying, not civilizations and societies where everything happens gradually by nature

as a democrat socialist i believe there are realistic goals, and there are deprogramming efforts that will take generations or societal collapse

"eat the rich" is a realistic goal

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

the only way to force a top down assault on society is a societal collapse that involves over half of the population dying, not civilizations and societies where everything happens gradually by nature

as a democrat socialist i believe there are realistic goals, and there are deprogramming efforts that will take generations or societal collapse

"eat the rich" is a realistic goal

thats all horrible but unfortunately we live in Trump's america and societal collapse is all but inevitable

dehumanize and face to the apocalypse

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Phi230 posted:

the lack of media attention beyond a sensational "legalize it"

"many people in the nation just want legalization for selfish ends or really do think of it as a one stop shop"

yeah dude, my selfish end is I wanna get fuckin blazed at a one stop shop for my "Get hosed up" needs

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Tatsuta Age posted:

"many people in the nation just want legalization for selfish ends or really do think of it as a one stop shop"

yeah dude, my selfish end is I wanna get fuckin blazed at a one stop shop for my "Get hosed up" needs

there is no such thing as ethical 420blazeit under legalization

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


make it a drive thru

put one in every taco truck on every corner of every street in america

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
shut up about loving drugs already nobody gives a flying gently caress

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Phi230 posted:

the lack of media attention beyond a sensational "legalize it"

Uh... what do you want the media to show people? Happy customers leaving safe stores? Environmental regulations on growers? Kids getting their seizures treated without dangerous medication?

I'm not sure I'm following you here

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

shut up about loving drugs

add it to all personal lubricants

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

shut up about loving drugs
my prescription synthetic sphincter says otherwise bub

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100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



lol if you're not already eating and loving with weed all the time

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