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bawfuls posted:So California's secession movement is actually a Russian astroturf? Amazing. Have you ever seen a better example of useful idiots?
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Which side are you talking about?
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CPColin posted:Yes California is having some meeting in San Luis Obispo today in a random mobile home park in town. The Facebook event time was set for noon UTC+05 instead of noon UTC-08. Because the guy who runs Yes California lives in Russia and is pro-Russia. lmaoooo
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dont be mean to me posted:Which side are you talking about? There is only one side comrade, you are either for the revolution or against it! 
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Expect to see 4 more years of this garbage. Poisoned additions to completely random bills to gently caress over California. The $170 million Flint bill includes rolling back environmental protections in the California Bay-Delta, for no loving reason  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/10/flint-water-crisis-senate-bill-lead-pipes quote:In some of its last business of the year, the Senate on Friday passed a bill that included $170m in funding to remove lead-tainted pipes from the water supply in Flint, Michigan. Also gently caress Feinstein, once again.
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Dec 13, 2016 05:42
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Yeah, why did B-Box have to retire, instead of Feinstein?
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You so Feine you blow my mind, Diane. Person who works in state politics told me the other day that the main "swing vote" (most flexible demographic) in CA elections is white liberal-leaning mothers, and most campaign strategies were centered around them. Is this true? It does kinda make sense.
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Dec 13, 2016 08:51
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Jesus Christ, gently caress Feinstein. How is that woman a Senator in this state?
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Dec 13, 2016 10:18
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She is so entrenched nobody with a serious career in politics would dare run against her.
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I think you might be able to find a reasonable enough Republican that they'd be better than her.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I think you might be able to find a reasonable enough Republican that they'd be better than her.
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Even if you could find a socially liberal Republican to go for it, the 'R' next to the name would be a big hurdle. I suspect she will retire or expire before any serious people go after her spot.
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Yeah Feinstein isn't going anywhere until she dies, unfortunately. Even more unfortunate is that whoever replaces her is going to be yet another old establishment democrat because California's got 'em in spades and there's no way the party would risk letting somebody who's actually liberal and not cozied up with the party elite take a senator post in the most important democratic stronghold. That or it's going to be Loretta Sanchez 
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Dec 13, 2016 18:46
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I dunno, Xavier Becerra may decide to run for her spot depending on what he's doing when Feinstein is gone. My ideal scenario right now is that John Chiang defies all expectations, becomes governor and Becerra becomes CA's next senator. Newsom goes home a loser and leaves politics forever.
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I don't care who replaces Feinstein as long as Gavin Newson disappears in the aether before actually getting a chance to become Governor/Senator.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Jesus Christ, gently caress Feinstein. How is that woman a Senator in this state?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:An rear end in a top hat shot George Moscone, making DiFi Mayor of San Francisco, her first stepping stone toward power. He also shot Harvey Milk, a San Francisco supervisor and the first out gay person to win an elected office in the US. Milk might well have become a contender for Mayor himself; we'll never know. Hey, sometimes when you eat a lot of sugary snack foods you end up doing crazy poo poo, like murder.
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Just a reminder in case anyone forgot: DiFi's husband, Richard C Blum, gets special favors that helps them make huge piles of money but noooo, there's no conflict of interest! He's also a longtime Regent of the UC system, among many other entanglements and positions any number of which are highly questionable given his relationship to a senator.
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I can almost understand the people that voted for Trump if the alternative is people like Diane Feinstein.
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"Drain the swamp" was and is 100% bullshit and the exact same group of assholes is going to be in power when Trump leaves office. Which is a shame, because Feinstein is right up there in what constitutes "the swamp".
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I saw her give a post election speech to the sf chamber of commerce a few weeks ago - she seemed real old and a bit confused (on account of being old.).
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I don't care who replaces Feinstein as long as Gavin Newson disappears in the aether before actually getting a chance to become Governor/Senator.  ) people though and I wouldn't be sad if Gavin disapears either from politics either.themrguy posted:Person who works in state politics told me the other day that the main "swing vote" (most flexible demographic) in CA elections is white liberal-leaning mothers, and most campaign strategies were centered around them. Is this true? It does kinda make sense. I live in Berkeley, and of all places, parents get loving crazy and up in arms that 0.001% of the school population might be some minority kids "illegally" enrolled because they live just outside the city limits or some bullshit. It's crazy. Also see: Marin and LaMorinda Creek area. Xaris fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Berkeley is small-c conservative as all hell. Change is bad, unfamiliarity is bad, new things are bad. When I lived there I'd always decide how to vote on local measures by looking up what the neighborhood association positions were and voting the other way. My favorite story is probably this: Several years back, a bunch of work on the South Berkeley branch of the library was delayed by opposition from a neighborhood association a couple miles away. Why did they care? Well, the library branch near them was the closest one to the branch that would be taken offline for a bit, and they didn't want the old South Berkeley patrons to come to "their" library in the interim. Probably a total coincidence that these patrons would largely be poor and black.
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yeah for all the talk we hear about how liberal california is and how our state is going left while the rest of the country is going right, this is still a state where people have unironically complained about billionaires running roughshod over millionaires in their cities.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:06
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Fygm pearl clutching is definitely bipartisan
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I'd say that California is CULTURALLY very liberal, but when it comes to class and economics it is, if anything, more conservative than the left in many parts of the country where they're in closer to the actual working class. We're in the belly of the neoliberal beast here.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Fygm pearl clutching is definitely bipartisan  "
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Cicero posted:Absolutely this. It's amazing how many people who consider themselves staunch progressives in coastal California will go, "yeah adding more housing might help the working and middle class be able to afford their rent, but on the other hand what about my free street parking??
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Baby Babbeh posted:I'd say that California is CULTURALLY very liberal, but when it comes to class and economics it is, if anything, more conservative than the left in many parts of the country where they're in closer to the actual working class. We're in the belly of the neoliberal beast here. Race too. I'm shocked at how segregated even the Bay Area is. Even more when you interact with the school system and elementary school districts
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Reminder that the wonderful liberal utopia of San Francisco ( ) also passed this:http://sf.curbed.com/2016/11/10/13576508/san-francisco-homeless-tents-election  It's at moments like this that I kinda wish there was a hell so that there'd be a place for combined "Yes Q / No S" voters can burn for a few centuries.
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FMguru posted:Also seen in the Bay Area during the last BART strike, when oh-so-liberal types transformed into club-swingin' Pinkertons at the thought of their commute being disrupted. Yeah, it's super cool that a BART janitor can strike and get paid six figures in overtime, but I'm a monster because I want to get to work and not lose my job. 
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fits my needs posted:Yeah, it's super cool that a BART janitor can strike and get paid six figures in overtime, but I'm a monster because I want to get to work and not lose my job. After seeing many BART stations those janitors deserve every penny they earn. Every goddamn elevator is some homeless dudes restroom.
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Dec 15, 2016 02:39
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If a janitor is willing to work enough overtime hours to get six figures then more power to them.
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fits my needs posted:Yeah, it's super cool that a BART janitor can strike and get paid six figures in overtime, but I'm a monster because I want to get to work and not lose my job. You should talk to your union if you lose your job because of a uncontrollable commuting delay. This is the kind of poo poo they are around for.
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Dec 15, 2016 02:46
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"Love me I'm a liberal!" Also "gently caress janitors!" LOL.
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fits my needs posted:Yeah, it's super cool that a BART janitor can strike and get paid six figures in overtime, but I'm a monster because I want to get to work and not lose my job. What is stopping you from switching careers to the lucrative bodily-fluid cleaning field? Be the change you wish to see in the world.
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This is this poster's gimmick remember:fits my needs posted:Lol. It's easy to be a "true liberal" when you're a six figure techie living in SF that walks to work or whatever. Sorry you don't think that BART isn't a critical piece of public infrastructure that should run regardless of if a BART janitor wants to make more money and get even better benefits than most commuters. A "little more time" makes it sound like they weren't loving over thousands of people by adding multiple hours to their commute times.
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withak posted:If a janitor is willing to work enough overtime hours to get six figures then more power to them.
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Baby Babbeh posted:I'd say that California is CULTURALLY very liberal, but when it comes to class and economics it is, if anything, more conservative than the left in many parts of the country where they're in closer to the actual working class. We're in the belly of the neoliberal beast here. how do you mean the "actual" working class
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We can be pretty economically liberal, if you put a tax increase on rich people on the ballot it will probably pass.
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