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oh godsquote:The only metric that people involved in the operations say they ever heard headquarters interested in was how many volunteer shifts had been signed up — though the volunteers were never given the now-standard handheld devices to input the responses they got in the field, and Brooklyn mandated that they not worry about data entry. Operatives watched packets of real-time voter information piled up in bins at the coordinated campaign headquarters. The sheets were updated only when they got ripped, or soaked with coffee. Existing packets with notes from the volunteers, including highlighting how much Trump inclination there was among some of the white male union members the Clinton campaign was sure would be with her, were tossed in the garbage. Every paragraph makes it worse. Every one is worth quoting. In a nation of reality-denying echo chambers, the Clinton campaign somehow managed to top the list as the stupidest.
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loquacius posted:Hillary is Pappy O'Daniel, I will keep saying this until it becomes A Thing I just can't decide if Trump is Homer Stokes or if he's the Devil-Sheriff, because "The law?!? The law is a...human institution!" is a very Trump attitude.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Perhaps also without the constant fart based insults too Are you kidding that's the best part!
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Hillary and her team really hosed up Then they hosed up even bigger the second time I can only imagine how monumental the third fuckup will be
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Lord of Pie posted:Hillary and her team really hosed up the third fuckup will be Hindsight 2020
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GlyphGryph posted:oh gods I mean, are you surprised?
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Pollyanna posted:the third fuckup will be Hindsight 2020 nice
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Thoguh posted:I mean, are you surprised? I actually am. Hillary Clinton is many things, but I never would have put "idiot" on the list. (Then again, I doubt she had much to do with direct campaign strategy, so "person who hires idiots" is probably more accurate.)
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FactsAreUseless posted:Remember when everyone was talking about how Trump couldn't match up to Clinton's ground game? Lmao. so obama's 3.5% bump was just pollsters loving up lv screens right? Not some sort of secret weapon ground game advantage?
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docbeard posted:I just can't decide if Trump is Homer Stokes or if he's the Devil-Sheriff, because "The law?!? The law is a...human institution!" is a very Trump attitude. Homer Stokes ran on a campaign to "sweep this state clean" and was also a KKK Grand Dragon, the comparison is fairly clear but yeah you can see a little Trump in other characters too (Big Dan maybe?)
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:He also didn't believe in a ground game, which the lack of one cost Hillary the election Even Trump supporters in these threads usually conceded that Hillary would take advantage of the Obama machine and it's ground game. It's infuriating to now learn that she didn't.
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docbeard posted:I actually am. Hillary Clinton is many things, but I never would have put "idiot" on the list. (Then again, I doubt she had much to do with direct campaign strategy, so "person who hires idiots" is probably more accurate.) would you now?
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GlyphGryph posted:Existing packets with notes from the volunteers, including highlighting how much Trump inclination there was among some of the white male union members the Clinton campaign was sure would be with her, were tossed in the garbage. What the gently caress. What's the point of spending oodles of money on a voter database if you're just going to use it? Edit: Dammit, I forgot to include the word 'not' Dr. Arbitrary has issued a correction as of 17:52 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:What the gently caress. I think we found the illegitimate / legitimate computer janitor.
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What's the point of [thing Clinton campaign did] if you're just going to ignore [demographic that lost her election]?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:What the gently caress. Compile a list of people to purge when you enact Neoliberal Order 66.
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Lmao that the Clinton campaign, located in Brooklyn, NY, didn't have a single person in charge of data management. Apparently they couldn't find one person in the entirety of New York with data experience.
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docbeard posted:I just can't decide if Trump is Homer Stokes or if he's the Devil-Sheriff, because "The law?!? The law is a...human institution!" is a very Trump attitude.
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Sojenus posted:What's the point of [thing Clinton campaign did] if you're just going to ignore [demographic that lost her election]? because she lost in a lot of areas due to depressed dem turnout. Trump winning the election literally only with the white vote SHOULDN'T be a winning plan, it historically isn't, but when you have that issue combined with a hosed ground game yea, the white nationalist wins.
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Hillary's campaign reminds me of this special ed kid I knew in middle school who was super into yu-gi-oh and would play with people but he'd cheat by stacking his deck and he'd end up losing anyway
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personally I think her campaign didn't have enough katy perry and that was a fatal error on top of all the other dumb bullshit also I just tried to swype the word bullshit on my phone and it autocorrected to hillary this is why windows phone is best
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Baloogan posted:I think we found the illegitimate / legitimate computer janitor. the hillary campaign fucks computers and cums in them????
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Baloogan posted:Y'all got owned by the dumbest people on the planet. Insult to injury. PolitiFact rates this True.
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"Alright, Senator Clinton. You have the entirety of the Democratic political machine behind you. All you have to do is take one single Midwestern swing state, because your opponent's path to victory requires that he take every single one of them. What will you do?" "...the Clintons are going to Texas!"
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FactsAreUseless posted:Lmao that the Clinton campaign, located in Brooklyn, NY, didn't have a single person in charge of data management. Apparently they couldn't find one person in the entirety of New York with data experience. not one that wasn't also a big donor's cousin or nephew, so not worth hiring.
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FactsAreUseless posted:"Alright, Senator Clinton. You have the entirety of the Democratic political machine behind you. All you have to do is take one single Midwestern swing state, because your opponent's path to victory requires that he take every single one of them. What will you do?" Hell it's even worse. She could have started laying groundwork to flip places like TX and AZ and literally ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS NOT IGNORE THE MIDWEST. Like, there is nothing wrong with working on future plans in other states as long as you're paying literally any attention to the ones you need!
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one benefit of reading all of the Clinton Ran A Bad Campaign articles besides "how not to politics" lessons is the ability to yell "YA MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK"
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FactsAreUseless posted:"Alright, Senator Clinton. You have the entirety of the Democratic political machine behind you. All you have to do is take one single Midwestern swing state, because your opponent's path to victory requires that he take every single one of them. What will you do?" "How about, stay with me here, how about as a form of reverse psychology we, get this, we reverse the psychology and ignore them completely, dumping all of our resources into states that don't matter. And we'll, when we do that, maybe the other guy will look at us and say, you know 'hey, maybe they know something we don't', and he'll be stupid enough to do the same thing, because if there is one thing we know about, like, opponents in general, not this specific opponent, not Donald J Trump, but in general, it's that they just love to look at their opponents doing stupid things and say 'I should be doing that too'. So you know, that's the plan. We're gonna psyche him out." "You have raised over twice as much money as him, and you could outspend him in these states easily, and if he doesn't follow your lead and actually visits these important states he will have no opposition. Are you sure that is the best course of action?" "Oh, absolutely."
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HILLARY!!!!!! One day the country will come to appreciate what it has gained or lost in this election. 
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My buddy, who volunteered on the Clinton Campaign, had to pay $5 to get a Veterans for Hillary button.
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FactsAreUseless posted:"Alright, Senator Clinton. You have the entirety of the Democratic political machine behind you. All you have to do is take one single Midwestern swing state, because your opponent's path to victory requires that he take every single one of them. What will you do?" Um, excuse me, I believe it's Secretary Clinton. *clutches pearls, writes full week of Salon and HuffPo articles about how FactsAreUseless is a closet misogynist* I can't believe I realized just now that this was legitimately a strategy--make mountains out of molehills and miss the larger picture. Fritz Coldcockin has issued a correction as of 17:49 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:Lmao that the Clinton campaign, located in Brooklyn, NY, didn't have a single person in charge of data management. Apparently they couldn't find one person in the entirety of New York with data experience. hey babe, wanna go on a data?
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Alter Ego posted:Um, excuse me, I believe it's Secretary Clinton.
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Accretionist posted:She'd probably have screwed up the presidency anyways thats a nice idea, but trump is currently packing his cabinet with people who actively want to dismantle the thing they have authority over. maybe some of them will want to retain as much power as possible and will actually expand their agency, im thinking something like that might happen with energy
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Baloogan posted:hey babe, wanna go on a data?
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My friends hot take on this article: "I don't think any strategy could have won, no use examining these errors"
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Baloogan posted:the entire campaign from top to bottom was playing dwarf fortress
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greatn posted:My friends hot take on this article: "I don't think any strategy could have won, no use examining these errors" Sounds about right, culture of the Clinton Campaign, in my personal experience, was any critique of Clintons messaging or campaign was met with "that (whatever critique) is just misogyny", and critique on where they were allocating resources was met with "there's people much smarter than you, with lots of data and algorithms, deciding these things".
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