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Leperflesh posted:I've played that game, it's called Once Upon a Time. I see that on sale at a store down the street. Going to pick it up for my better half for Christmas; seems extremely her jam.
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It's actually a fun game to play with kids. As in, adults plus kids. Most kid games are loving horrible, or at best, too simple to enjoy as an adult, but Once Upon a Time isn't. The cards are thematically oriented towards classic fairy tales, specifically, although the expansions add related genres. I think the set I played with had added a few... fairytales, seafaring tales, maybe enchanting tales too? Basically you can add any story element you want to a story, but if you want to use your cards, you'll have to mostly be telling a story about a princess or a fairy godmother or maybe some pirates, and the magic spell and some dragons or perhaps a gnome. You probably can't win if you try to tell a story about the invasion of Planet Bloodbath by the ravaging hordes of The Scourge of Doom.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:45
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Panzeh posted:Interesting fact- the US tank destroyer company in flames of war used to be a similar broken combo because of the ability to teleport in a bunch of TD shots off of the recon units(the way American TDs work in FoW is kinda weird). Especially given it has no real resemblance to the tactics that made them infamous (being kind of like modern shoot-and-scoot stuff). Or, well, anything, really; the teleporting thing is weird. quote:Like, in terms of top tier, the US is right there with a few Germans in Late War, mid war is a bit more open, and early war is Russians as far as the eye can see. They're coming out with a v4 that's based on a lot of Team Yankee which has some weird and bad rules in it along with some good ones. If you include Pacific (same points scale) Japanese infantry spam is also kind of insane. MikeCrotch posted:I've never understood the appeal of FoW at all. You have models that can be used with literally any WWII ruleset and people intentionally play the one that is essentially warhammer 1940k Everyone else plays it  I want to play more CoC but FoW isn't horrible, and it has a load of pick-up-and-play features. I think TY's a mechanically better game though, flaky rules clarity aside. w00tmonger posted:hahaha what the gently caress. Just went to check out vampire models for inspiration and saw the price of these bat-bro's 
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Dec 15, 2016 00:06
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Ilor posted:Not so! In Chain of Command, the Soviets are pretty good. Their infantry is a little bit unwieldy (Soviet doctrine treated the squad as the smallest unit of fire-and-maneuver, rather than fireteams within a squad like the other armies), but their tanks are good and their artillery barrages are loving awesome. They also have the cheapest sniper teams in the game, again reflecting the importance Soviet doctrine placed on sharpshooters. Soviets in Bolt Action are sweet. Free rifle squad (they suck but having 12 rifles is not a bad thing) and have the potential to become regular. Some of their lists allow you to field dual artillery and it doesn't feel gamey. The 3 for 1 anti teams means you can infiltrate small veteran teams with SMG's and panzerfausts in silly numbers. Heavy tanks they have are brutal, tank riders are nifty. Their special rules are very situational, if a unit needs to roll for morale it's usually going to be ineffective either way and the bombardment rule is not amazing. Early war you have so many crazy options like Commissars, dog mines and don't forget they have a massive armoured boat for river scenarios that ignores it's first penetrating hit. But yeah CoC they are odd as balls.
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Dec 15, 2016 00:34
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Didn't the Soviet dog-mines backfire horribly in real life or have I been led astray?
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Dec 15, 2016 01:17
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the kickstarter for The Other Side has cleared 130k in four and a half hours. it just cleared its second stretch goal which means in addition to the rule books being upgraded to hardcover they're also going to be releasing faction specific fate decks as add-ons which means they just got more money from me
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Dec 15, 2016 01:23
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Leperflesh posted:It's actually a fun game to play with kids. As in, adults plus kids. Most kid games are loving horrible, or at best, too simple to enjoy as an adult, but Once Upon a Time isn't. I bought Once Upon A Time for a friend's birthday once, and in one sitting we managed to turn simple cards into some kind of fantasy Batman story. An orphaned prince, a talking animal, a magical carriage etc. etc. It's a great game if your friends "get" that the point of the game is to tell a story, not win at all costs by trying to play all your hand in one go. People would end their turn if they couldn't take the story anywhere, happily picking up more cards to see what they could include in their next turn.
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Dec 15, 2016 01:38
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Kai Tave posted:Didn't the Soviet dog-mines backfire horribly in real life or have I been led astray? Most definitely and the rules reflect that. Afterwords dogs were usually shot on sight by German soldiers. Watched a short clip of AT training in Germany have to dig a trench have a T-34 run over it and then approach it with a practise mine. 
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Dec 15, 2016 01:42
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Skinty McEdger posted:Xwing was my gateway drug for him on his birthday. But he now wants to try a "proper wargame." I didn't see anyone else mention this yet, but you might be interested in the new 2 player starter set,"Kick off" for Guild Ball. It includes 2 full teams (6 players each) that come pre-assembled. It also includes literally everything you need to play; tokens, game mat, full teams, rules.
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Kai Tave posted:Didn't the Soviet dog-mines backfire horribly in real life or have I been led astray? They were kind of useless, but the usual story goes "Those silly russians trained them on their own tanks, so they blew their own guys up! Schoolboy error" when in actual fact it's more like "live tanks are loving terrifying and so are machineguns and dozens of angry people throwing grenades and poo poo at you and in circumstances like that dogs like to return to people familiar to them, i.e. their handlers, which is bad when they have a mine strapped to them". It was a kind of bad idea all around but in actuality less funny than it's usually portrayed since it was typically a terrified dog running towards someone who'd been training it for weeks who had to frantically shoot it before everyone got blown up.
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Dec 15, 2016 02:23
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rip poor war doggos 
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Dec 15, 2016 02:50
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Leperflesh posted:Amazing. Aside from Judge Dredd, I've never heard of any of those comics. But if they are mostly going to focus on the British market, I guess it's fine.
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Dec 15, 2016 06:06
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Not a viking posted:Aside from Judge Dredd, I've never heard of any of those comics. But if they are mostly going to focus on the British market, I guess it's fine. If they make a Nemesis the Warlock model, the circle will be complete. CREEDO!
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potentiallycool posted:Soviets in Bolt Action are sweet. Free rifle squad (they suck but having 12 rifles is not a bad thing) and have the potential to become regular. Some of their lists allow you to field dual artillery and it doesn't feel gamey. The 3 for 1 anti teams means you can infiltrate small veteran teams with SMG's and panzerfausts in silly numbers. Heavy tanks they have are brutal, tank riders are nifty. Their special rules are very situational, if a unit needs to roll for morale it's usually going to be ineffective either way and the bombardment rule is not amazing. My comment was less that Soviets are a bad side to pick, and more that the games tend to reflect the post-war, pro-German propaganda about the Soviets to make them good, like hordes of unskilled soldiers being herded by executioner-commissars, large numbers of weak tanks that can only beat the German big cats using overwhelming numbers, gimmicks like the bomb dogs, etc
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NTRabbit posted:My comment was less that Soviets are a bad side to pick, and more that the games tend to reflect the post-war, pro-German propaganda about the Soviets to make them good, like hordes of unskilled soldiers being herded by executioner-commissars, large numbers of weak tanks that can only beat the German big cats using overwhelming numbers, gimmicks like the bomb dogs, etc Yeah, that's where CoC shines, as you use actual historical platoons. And a regular soldier with a rifle is a regular soldier with a rifle, no matter which side they fight on. So differences are more about platoon structure and stats for tanks than "army books" as in 40K or FoW. A Soviet tank rider platoon is different than a German Fallshirmsjäger platoon, not because of some special stats or anything, but in that they have a different number of sections and a different number of men in each section. A 1939 Soviet rifle platoon is a hilarious horde because they field four sections with 15 men in each, but that's because it's the historical platoon structure. A lot of armies had 10+ men in their sections at the start of WW2, until practical experience made it clear that it was too big. Germany had 13 men in each in 1939. So while an early Soviet platoon is very much a horde, a mechanized 1941 Soviet platoon is small and lean. There's no "they'll fight like this because they are from faction X", it's more about figuring out why a platoon was structured like it was, and how to use the inherent strengths and weaknesses.
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Not a viking posted:Aside from Judge Dredd, I've never heard of any of those comics. But if they are mostly going to focus on the British market, I guess it's fine. You should read Nemesis just to laugh at how hard GW cribbed from it
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HotCanadianChick posted:Hah, I'm tickled pink to see someone mention SSW, surprised it got as popular as it did; the original author is my best friend/former GM/roommate/best man at my wedding. I'll have to text him and let him know people are still using it years after he stopped working on it. And Battletech was my very first tabletop game and introduction into gaming, it's still not a bad system for getting people into wargaming as it still has pretty reasonable balance and the rules aren't a total garbage fire. I use both SSW and the newer MML, because while they're largely similar, I've had a few less bugs with SSW even if it is no longer "in date". On the other hand MML has benefits too (newer tech, and they're getting the interface up to par). It really depends what I'm trying to do. Shadin posted:Seconding this, I love Battletech, warts and all. Building mechs (stats, not models) was always a blast. Thirding, seeing as the intro box set is still available from catalyst after all - although it's the one with the hammerhands on the front so I guess the plastic minis aren't as good as the boxes with the atlas on the front?? (the atlas cover box set had brilliant quality plastic) https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-25th-anniversary-introductory-box-set So I'm a bit sceptical about that copy - I grabbed two of the atlas cover because the plastic was that good.
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Dec 15, 2016 10:48
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I have the old set and it's fine.
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mcjomar posted:(the atlas cover box set had brilliant quality plastic) I dunno if I'd call it brilliant quality by any stretch, but definitely Good Enough. Especially when you consider that there is literally no need to put the minis together - inside the intro box is literally just a big plastic bag of complete, solid minis.
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I guess I'm only calling it brilliant quality in comparison to all the previous attempts at plastic mechs for CBT use that came before that box set. The intro box set from before the atlas cover tended/tends to have some sculpting/casting issues, and sometimes needs to be reglued, which isn't so hot when you're trying to sell this as a good alternative to x (x being whatever game you're comparing to). I've got a number of plastic CBT minis from various boxes, going back to citytech and unseen, and honestly, this new stuff is pretty drat good in comparison to most of that. The unseen plastics haven't been amazing so far for what I've had when I've dug them up on ebay, and the citytech stuff wasn't too stunning either. The old battlemaster box set wasn't great, and the hammerhands box set was the same plastics IIRC. So when you compare to previous sets, the atlas comes out a firm winner, overall. I'd love to see more of that sort of thing from catalyst.
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Dec 15, 2016 12:31
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Oh, you can try Heavy Gear: Blitz as well, I haven't tried the rules yet, but the minis are super quality plastic - small, but not fiddly, and with a low part count.
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Dec 15, 2016 12:31
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NTRabbit posted:My comment was less that Soviets are a bad side to pick, and more that the games tend to reflect the post-war, pro-German propaganda about the Soviets to make them good, like hordes of unskilled soldiers being herded by executioner-commissars, large numbers of weak tanks that can only beat the German big cats using overwhelming numbers, gimmicks like the bomb dogs, etc Yeah, I think that's a trend with everything. Chain of Command is probably the best game for it but Russian rifle platoons still top out at "regular", for example. FoW's issues with soviets are well documented and BA has their unique gimmick being... bonus badly-trained soldiers.
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Dec 15, 2016 12:43
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i'm watching Kill La Kill
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Blitzkrieg Commander allows a lot if freedom in how you can build Soviet armies both in terms of composition and quality of troops. However they are hamstrung by having to use Rigid formations, which gives some minor bonuses but makes them much harder to use and less flexible than Wallies or Germans. Certainly not an army for beginners.
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Moola posted:i'm watching Kill La Kill Moola posted:i've stopped watching Kill La Kill The timestamp on these posts says more than any novel could.
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Dec 15, 2016 13:06
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adults enjoy that poo poo?
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Dec 15, 2016 13:18
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Cory in the House is the best anime.
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Dec 15, 2016 13:21
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i'm watching Cowboy Beebop instead
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Dec 15, 2016 13:23
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Quick someone post about how good AoS is before animechat starts.
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Moola posted:i'm watching Cowboy Beebop instead Drone posted:Quick someone post about how good AoS is before animechat starts. 3, 2, 1, let's go
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I agree 100% with Moolas Kill la Kill review.
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Leperflesh posted:I've played that game, it's called Once Upon a Time. The game specifically says that when someone does that you call them out and they get some sort of penalty. The game is really about the journey and not "winning" which is just kind of there so that it can end at some point. It's really good with the right people but I've played with a few that just don't "get" it and you have to just acknowledge they aren't going to be able to play that sort of game. The worst two people to play that game are the types previously mentioned and the others that try and immediately destroy other people's stories to do their own ("ok so your frog gets stepped on and killed now about my magical goat") instead of adding to it.
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In a similar vein i had some great fun with Aye, Dark Overlord. One player is the Dark Overlord, everyone else plays their incompetent goblin minions who just returned from a failed mission. The minion players use cards to introduce natrative elements to explain why it's not their fault the mission failed and to pass blame around the table while in Overlord can interject at any point, ask follow-up questions and decides who's responsible in the end. Like Once Upon a time it requires everyone to be on the same page but if you have a good group it's a great game.
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Watch Mob Psycho 100 instead
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Xarbala posted:Watch Mob Psycho 100 instead 
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NTRabbit posted:3, 2, 1, let's go I like the dog he's a good dog 12/10
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I had the anime dog before he died. My brother wants an anime dog again. Ive been watching re:zero. It's a great horror/drama series. It's bloodborne the anime.
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Ilor posted:Not so! In Chain of Command, the Soviets are pretty good. Their infantry is a little bit unwieldy (Soviet doctrine treated the squad as the smallest unit of fire-and-maneuver, rather than fireteams within a squad like the other armies), but their tanks are good and their artillery barrages are loving awesome. They also have the cheapest sniper teams in the game, again reflecting the importance Soviet doctrine placed on sharpshooters. Please don't tell me someone made a WW2 game with no-to-limited faction bias and that reflects the different forge org systems of the time. My wallet doesn't need any more harm atm. Is it 15mm or 28mm? Pierzak fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Chill la Chill posted:I had the anime dog before he died. My brother wants an anime dog again. he dies?!?!?
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