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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
this is going to completely kill any pro-reunification parties in taiwan right?

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C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



I'd laugh if the Chinese army tried to invade Taiwan, failed, then the ROC takes over the Mainland and realized they don't want that mess and give it back.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

C-SPAN Caller posted:

I'd laugh if the Chinese army tried to invade Taiwan, failed, then the ROC takes over the Mainland and realized they don't want that mess and give it back.

The ROC already knows that they want no part of that poo poo-show.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Blistex posted:

The ROC already knows that they want no part of that poo poo-show.

The logistics of integrating North Korea is nuts enough, I couldn't imagine how you'd turn the Mainland around and make it cool China.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


obviously you install a puppet state in both cases that if you're lucky you keep a tight enough leash on one day it might be culturally and economically sensible enough to finally integrate

Bubblyblubber
Nov 17, 2014

C-SPAN Caller posted:

I couldn't imagine how you'd turn the Mainland around and make it cool China.

Gasoline is pretty cheap these days, and matches are not, like, super expensive anyways.

Plus, you get a nice boost to field yields next harvest season, what with all the ashes and such.

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Haier posted:



They have 30 million single, unmarried, extra men uselessly breathing in all that precious smog. I don't know of any war where 30 million dudes were wiped out, but that would finally level the male-female ratio for the country. It would save the government tons of money.



Paraguay would be the go to example of a war producing an insane demographic imbalance, if any one wants to do some hosed up reading.

The risk to the CCP isn't casualties, which would be relatively low since they'd likely lose the war at sea before it goes any further. But it would be an insanely humiliating failure that undermines the government's legitimacy, Falklands on a grand scale more or less. (armchairstrategist.jpg)

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
As bad as a trump presidency might be, gotta say, the Chinese salt is loving great

Time Machine
Feb 24, 2006
When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit.

C-SPAN Caller posted:

The logistics of integrating North Korea is nuts enough, I couldn't imagine how you'd turn the Mainland around and make it cool China.

Something substantial should be lost as punishment however, for something so short-sighted as an invasion-perhaps they can annex Hong Hong as a part of Taiwan! Think about it: Good China+Better China=Best China!

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
The Taiwanese military really doesn't matter cause China would have to power their lovely rustbuckets through multiple US Navy battle groups (complete with newfangled railguns!) before they ever even meet Taiwan

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Oh man I forgot we have loving railguns now.

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Atlas Hugged posted:

Oh man I forgot we have loving railguns now.

And loving lasers in testing. The USN ain't nothing to gently caress with, especially when you can avoid it by just building a new Trump branded ghost city in Gansu.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Let's lighten up the mood by a bunch of guys pounding away at the red hot stuff in the backyard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmKHGqfFlc

I wonder how many people that hammer killed so far.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:

The Taiwanese military really doesn't matter cause China would have to power their lovely rustbuckets through multiple US Navy battle groups (complete with newfangled railguns!) before they ever even meet Taiwan

sailing that close to china right now would be more difficult than it was in the past but yeah any chinese trying to cross would get poo poo on by missiles and air support (i think the channel is a bit too shallow to effectively operate subs?)

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Looks like a danger of hitting the supports on the way down. What... what is this for? Just fun time diving for pigs? Pig punishment?

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

pig park

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

How else do you think they get all the dead pigs in their rivers?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




basic hitler posted:

obviously you install a puppet state in both cases that if you're lucky you keep a tight enough leash on one day it might be culturally and economically sensible enough to finally integrate

Well, if we're going all armchair strategist bookstore I favor installing a separate government in each province/territory. It shouldn't take long for a bunch of folks to decide being President of the sovereign state of Shandong or Fujian is better than taking orders from Shanghai. Then turn 'em loose and let them Romance of the Three Kingdoms it out.

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007

Haier posted:

They have 30 million single, unmarried, extra men uselessly breathing in all that precious smog. I don't know of any war where 30 million dudes were wiped out, but that would finally level the male-female ratio for the country. It would save the government tons of money.

I have read that this was actually false. They have 30 million more documented men than women, but estimates of 18-30+ million undocumented girl births so the demographics are actually pretty even - or at least more even than everyone thinks.

Those 30 million men actually have no-one to blame but themselves, their education, and their lovely, lovely personal hygiene for being single.

True/False?

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Private Speech posted:

who's conning who though

or is it just everyone. an ouroboros of conning

rich ppl conning poor ppl.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Captain Postal posted:

Those 30 million men actually have no-one to blame but themselves, their education, and their lovely, lovely personal hygiene for being single.

True/False?

Girls won't talk to you unless you own a house, and "I can have my parents' home when they die in 30 years" doesn't count as having one

paperchaseguy
Feb 21, 2002

THEY'RE GONNA SAY NO

Captain Postal posted:

I have read that this was actually false. They have 30 million more documented men than women, but estimates of 18-30+ million undocumented girl births so the demographics are actually pretty even - or at least more even than everyone thinks.

Those 30 million men actually have no-one to blame but themselves, their education, and their lovely, lovely personal hygiene for being single.

True/False?

how do you say "register at something awful" in mandarin?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
So I have been feeling like poo poo today with a really bad sinus cold. Stuffed up, sinus pressure, a headache and a bit of soreness in the joints (not the flu). So my wife made me some Ginger and Red Sugar soup when she got back from work and after two bowls I felt much better. Her first reaction was, "HAHA! Chinese medicine works!". I can't deny her that victory since she was so nice, but I didn't tell her that I was also on Tylenol Cold medicine.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
drinking hot liquids to deal with cold symptoms is really common and done everywhere

it's literally the chicken soup treatment

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fojar38 posted:

drinking hot liquids to deal with cold symptoms is really common and done everywhere

it's literally the chicken soup treatment

It's marriage diplomacy. ;)

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Blistex posted:

It's marriage diplomacy. ;)

Have you considered changing spouses rather than approaches to medical science?

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Baronjutter posted:

Looks like a danger of hitting the supports on the way down. What... what is this for? Just fun time diving for pigs? Pig punishment?

You buy a ticket for the amazing diving pigs and then you can sit and watch the pigs dive, oh my, diving pigs (*o*), cute (^u^)

When your foreign friend asks why people where clapping when the fat hillbilly was shoving pigs off the plank you tell him "China 5,000 year you do not understan"

At the tiger "sancuary" near Harbin you can dangle a steak near the 15 foot fence from a platform and the tiger will jump and grab the steak from your hand! Very clever tiger! Also if you are in the Safari Bus the driver will put a chicken on the roof for the tiger to catch! Natrual amazing, power of nature the tiger, symbor China.

raton fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Dec 16, 2016

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Blistex posted:

It's marriage diplomacy. ;)

Does she believe in mixing Eastern and Western remedies? It's like when American Christians pray but then also actually do something about their problems.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
The whole, "Chinese medicine wins" was half-sarcastic, as she is only 20-80 on the boat about it. She doesn't believe that the Han Chinese have some sort of magic physiology that makes all western medicine ineffective, or that animal parts give you special powers, but she is of the idea that certain TCM's are more of a "slow burning" treatment rather than a cure-all. Really, her medical beliefs are 90% in line with mine, (she knows that acupuncture is bullshit, that cupping is a joke, etc.) but there are some things that have been ingrained in her that she's not willing to give up. Luckily most of those are pretty harmless and not at all crazy sounding.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Blistex posted:

So I have been feeling like poo poo today with a really bad sinus cold. Stuffed up, sinus pressure, a headache and a bit of soreness in the joints (not the flu). So my wife made me some Ginger and Red Sugar soup when she got back from work and after two bowls I felt much better. Her first reaction was, "HAHA! Chinese medicine works!". I can't deny her that victory since she was so nice, but I didn't tell her that I was also on Tylenol Cold medicine.

Oddly, there is effective Chinese medicine for your symptoms but that's not what she gave you. Said medicine is hepatoxic, can lead to heart problems, and the pseudo in your Tylenol is a safer derivative of the active ingredient anyway.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I dont think any simulation to date of an invasion of Taiwan has China actually being repelled and Taiwan "winning" by any definition.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh
Apparently my company is trying to score some contracts with local schools. To do this they arranged for demo lessons to be given at various junior highs. Yet, for some mysterious reason our Cameroonian JHS teacher was not asked to teach these lessons. Instead they brought in white high school teachers. I wonder why.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Dandywalken posted:

I dont think any simulation to date of an invasion of Taiwan has China actually being repelled and Taiwan "winning" by any definition.

Simulations had Hillary beating Trump. They likely assume the Chinese military as it exists on paper will perform like a modern military and their poo poo won't break down the second it operates under real world conditions.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Atlas Hugged posted:

Simulations had Hillary beating Trump.

Christ I just got owned

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Dandywalken posted:

I dont think any simulation to date of an invasion of Taiwan has China actually being repelled and Taiwan "winning" by any definition.

I think I found the findings in question?

How long will it take to capture Taiwan? 2 days
Will Tsai Ing-wen be killed? Yes
Total Taiwan civilian casualties: 500 dead
Total military casualties Taiwan: 3000 dead
Total military casualties China.: 15 dead
Will the Taiwanese army regulars hold the lines? No
Will the Republic Marines fight to the end? No
Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes
Will Taiwanese launch attacks on the Japanese? Yes
Will Taiwanese launch attacks on Korea? No
-If yes; will Japan retaliate harshly? Yes
Will Tsai Ing-wen sacrifice Taipei (gas/nuke it)? No
Will the Japanese make a grab for the Senkaku Islands? Yes
Will Vietnam do anything silly like try for land? Yes
Will Tsai Ing-wen burn the ASUS factories? Yes
How long will the China be occupying Taiwan? ~15 years
Will the Taiwan war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No
In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Blistex posted:

I think I found the findings in question?

How long will it take to capture Taiwan? 2 days
Will Tsai Ing-wen be killed? Yes
Total Taiwan civilian casualties: 500 dead
Total military casualties Taiwan: 3000 dead
Total military casualties China.: 15 dead
Will the Taiwanese army regulars hold the lines? No
Will the Republic Marines fight to the end? No
Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes
Will Taiwanese launch attacks on the Japanese? Yes
Will Taiwanese launch attacks on Korea? No
-If yes; will Japan retaliate harshly? Yes
Will Tsai Ing-wen sacrifice Taipei (gas/nuke it)? No
Will the Japanese make a grab for the Senkaku Islands? Yes
Will Vietnam do anything silly like try for land? Yes
Will Tsai Ing-wen burn the ASUS factories? Yes
How long will the China be occupying Taiwan? ~15 years
Will the Taiwan war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No
In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good

gently caress!!!!! A combo!!!

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Blistex posted:

I think I found the findings in question?

How long will it take to capture Taiwan? 2 days
Will Tsai Ing-wen be killed? Yes
Total Taiwan civilian casualties: 500 dead
Total military casualties Taiwan: 3000 dead
Total military casualties China.: 15 dead
Will the Taiwanese army regulars hold the lines? No
Will the Republic Marines fight to the end? No
Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes
Will Taiwanese launch attacks on the Japanese? Yes
Will Taiwanese launch attacks on Korea? No
-If yes; will Japan retaliate harshly? Yes
Will Tsai Ing-wen sacrifice Taipei (gas/nuke it)? No
Will the Japanese make a grab for the Senkaku Islands? Yes
Will Vietnam do anything silly like try for land? Yes
Will Tsai Ing-wen burn the ASUS factories? Yes
How long will the China be occupying Taiwan? ~15 years
Will the Taiwan war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No
In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good

Lololol

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Atlas Hugged posted:

Simulations had Hillary beating Trump. They likely assume the Chinese military as it exists on paper will perform like a modern military and their poo poo won't break down the second it operates under real world conditions.

I can totally see some Washington think tank "running simulations" to push Congress into selling another $1.8b of weapons to Taiwan.

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Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Taiwan is a big mountain and all their highways are designed/ have explosives built into them/ to be blown at a moment's notice to create a literal impassable interior.

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