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Meridian and Sub Rosa are two different kinds of bad. Sub Rosa you have to take breaks from during viewing because it's so stupid and embarrassing. Meridian you have to take breaks from during viewing because it's so loving boring your eyes just glaze over while you're trying to watch it.
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Astroman posted:Lance Parkin, yes that Lance Parkin... I still had to look up who that was.
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Dec 17, 2016 06:59
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twistedmentat posted:Oh god I hate that episode. It's just painful in every single way. Sub Rosa is spookaly good bad. Sunflower seeds are without honor. Pistachios are a true warrior's snack.
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Dec 17, 2016 07:10
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So I've heard they cast the single worst character in the entire regular line-up of Walking Dead as the Captain of the new show. Let's hope the writers are entirely responsible for her sucking over there.
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Dec 17, 2016 11:37
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Fister Roboto posted:Sunflower seeds are without honor. Pistachios are a true warrior's snack. Klingons prize the bad pistachios in the bag as a delicacy
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Dec 17, 2016 11:42
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Blazing Ownager posted:So I've heard they cast the single worst character in the entire regular line-up of Walking Dead as the Captain of the new show. No, Maggie's not been cast, I'm not sure what you mean 
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Dec 17, 2016 13:47
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Pakled posted:Meridian Hey I just met you and this is crazy, but I've resigned from Starfleet, so let me travel to another dimension with you maybe.
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Dec 17, 2016 14:24
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Meridian is part of Dax's weird manic pixie dream girl side, back when they really had no clue how to handle her. It sucks.
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Dec 17, 2016 14:35
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On the flipside, Meridian is what got Jeffrey Combs onto DS9, which redeems it karmically if not artistically.
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Dec 17, 2016 15:09
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I just recently rewatched the TNG pilot, and "Justice"... Have you ever noticed that along with the terrible plots and scripts, season 1 has this weird Uncanny Valley thing going on with the acting. I dont know if its the actors' fault or the directing, but none of interactions feel genuinely human. The pacing of the lines is off and it feels more like the characters reciting monologues to the audience than having a conversation.
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Dec 17, 2016 16:16
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Pakled posted:Meridian and Sub Rosa are two different kinds of bad. Sub Rosa you have to take breaks from during viewing because it's so stupid and embarrassing. Meridian you have to take breaks from during viewing because it's so loving boring your eyes just glaze over while you're trying to watch it. IMDB user ratings for Sub Rosa:  They nailed the Beverly Crusher demo.
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Dec 17, 2016 19:04
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OK Admiral Locke, I'm with you for the most part, but what the hell is the point of a cloaking device that lets a ship pass through normal matter? What possible advantage could that give anyone?
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Dec 17, 2016 19:48
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Fister Roboto posted:OK Admiral Locke, I'm with you for the most part, but what the hell is the point of a cloaking device that lets a ship pass through normal matter? What possible advantage could that give anyone? You're not gonna find my cloaked fleet if it's inside your home world.
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Dec 17, 2016 20:02
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Also, okay you've found out where I am by using your deflector dish in creative ways, buy your photons still can't hurt me. Sucka.
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Dec 17, 2016 20:03
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Fister Roboto posted:OK Admiral Locke, I'm with you for the most part, but what the hell is the point of a cloaking device that lets a ship pass through normal matter? What possible advantage could that give anyone?  "Captain, I'll need the prototype phase-cloaked shuttlepod for some... tests. I want to see how the... uh... inverse plasma matrix responds when it's recalibrated into the upper theta--" "Yes yes, Geordi, all yours."* Geordi flies the shuttlepod right into the quarters of whoever he's creeping on that week and just watches *
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Dec 17, 2016 20:10
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Makes me wonder what he was doing in The Next Phase when he just happened to stumble on Ro fighting that Romulan dude. Also speaking of that scene, if you look carefully you can see the house plant being shaken when the actors fall near it. Are we to believe it was a phased plant??
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Dec 17, 2016 20:13
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Powered Descent posted:
But its too late, I've seen everything.
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Tunicate posted:But its too late, I've seen everything. See, Picard is content to watch from a distance, Geordi has to get up close. Jack the Enhanced Douche is basically every Alt-right internet shithead.
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Dec 17, 2016 21:54
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TheBigAristotle posted:They nailed the Beverly Crusher demo. It helps that it was lifted whole-cloth from an Anne Rice novel. (Or so, uh... my mother says.) Fister Roboto posted:OK Admiral Locke, I'm with you for the most part, but what the hell is the point of a cloaking device that lets a ship pass through normal matter? What possible advantage could that give anyone? So you can run Space Blockades without having to use sci-fi bullshit like flying "above" or "below" the other ships. Keep up!
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Dec 17, 2016 22:01
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I forget the Magnificent Feregni is so good. I like how at the end they can't turn off the remote control Vorta so he keeps walking into a wall like a glitchy game character.
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Dec 17, 2016 23:04
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Fister Roboto posted:OK Admiral Locke, I'm with you for the most part, but what the hell is the point of a cloaking device that lets a ship pass through normal matter? What possible advantage could that give anyone? Spying.
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Dec 17, 2016 23:16
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twistedmentat posted:I forget the Magnificent Feregni is so good. I like how at the end they can't turn off the remote control Vorta so he keeps walking into a wall like a glitchy game character. Bethesda must've based their NPC pathfinding for Skyrim on The Magnificent Ferengi's Weekend at Bernie's technology. They just left him there, right? I wonder if like ten years later when the Cardassians finally get around to reclaiming the station if they'll find a skeletal Vorta still bumping up against that same wall.
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Dec 17, 2016 23:21
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e.^^^^ I'm convinced the remote control Vorta is an homage to Spock's Brain.twistedmentat posted:Jack the Enhanced Douche is basically every Alt-right internet shithead. Yeah, there's a weird moment in the mid-90s where Trek suddenly started using a bunch of characters and plots that would fit right into The X Files or a poorly mimeographed conspiracy newsletter. Dr Giger (the "soulless minions of orthodoxy" guy) is another example. Ron Moore and Brannon Braga (among others) both seemed to really like writing these twisty conspiracy/mindfuck episodes (Moore's were better, obviously). DS9 repeatedly showed the Federation (and all the other powers) as being infested with Maquis traitors, alien inflitrators, and high-level black ops conspiracies and it's amazing how often stuff like UFOs, alien abductions, ancient astronauts, brainwashing/mind control, and other fringe "science" comes up on Voyager. It wasn't just Trek either, that poo poo was everywhere for a while and then sort of get replaced by post-9/11 rahrahism and generalized paranoia about terrorists and foreigners only to come roaring back in recent years. Maybe FEMA dumps different chemicals into the water supply when Democrats are in office. Duckbox fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Dec 18, 2016 00:27
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Kibbles n Shits posted:Makes me wonder what he was doing in The Next Phase when he just happened to stumble on Ro fighting that Romulan dude. They install phased air, floors, and plants on every Star ship just in case.
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Dec 18, 2016 00:40
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I've realised that DS9 is really good for the way the crew talk to eachother. They actually banter and joke like real people, and it's so much fun. I'm watching the first episode of season 5, and they're all really enjoying themselves before they leave for Klingon space, even Dukat is in on it.
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Duckbag posted:e.^^^^ I'm convinced the remote control Vorta is an homage to Spock's Brain. I read something awhile back about how, with no real type of enemy to focus on, we culturally start looking for a bogeyman and conspiracies become more popular. The fall of the Soviet Union left us without a menace to be scared of, and the conspiracy theory era came to an end when we had terrorists to be scared of at last. I think the recent resurgence of conspiracy theories has been due to people just not taking terrorism seriously anymore. The enemy has faded away and the night terrors have come again.
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Fister Roboto posted:OK Admiral Locke, I'm with you for the most part, but what the hell is the point of a cloaking device that lets a ship pass through normal matter? What possible advantage could that give anyone?
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I read something awhile back about how, with no real type of enemy to focus on, we culturally start looking for a bogeyman and conspiracies become more popular. The fall of the Soviet Union left us without a menace to be scared of, and the conspiracy theory era came to an end when we had terrorists to be scared of at last. Yea, I always believed that. The 90s felt very optimistic that we were on our way to solving most of the big problems, without any obvious enemies to worry about, people started jumping at shadows. The 9/11 happened, and everyone lost their poo poo, and saw scary brown people ready to blow up everything. Then that didn't happen, so people started looking at shadows. Plus people started to realize that their leaders were corrupt as gently caress, and only out for themselves, but rather than deal with the actual problems, they seemed to become accepting that no, it wasn't their leaders, but shadowy others that tend to have Jewish sounding names that were pulling the strings behind the scenes. The_Doctor posted:I've realised that DS9 is really good for the way the crew talk to eachother. They actually banter and joke like real people, and it's so much fun. Yep, DS9 has characters that feel very human, the best example is the Bromance that develops between Bashir and O'Brien. They hate each other at the start, but as the series goes on they grow and begin to become friends, until they are bff.
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https://twitter.com/BrentSpiner/status/809981046754131970
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Dec 18, 2016 08:13
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Is he hoverhanding?
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Dec 18, 2016 08:17
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I read something awhile back about how, with no real type of enemy to focus on, we culturally start looking for a bogeyman and conspiracies become more popular. The fall of the Soviet Union left us without a menace to be scared of, and the conspiracy theory era came to an end when we had terrorists to be scared of at last. I think it's more likely tied to the rise of right wing media like Fox News, Rush, and other even fringier outlets, pushing an explicitly anti-government message to try and cut the knees out from under the Clinton administration.
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Dec 18, 2016 08:18
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*in an increasingly panicking Russian voice* Sub Rosa... Sub Rosa... Oh no! Captain, we have to get out of here!
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Dec 18, 2016 09:00
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What are a handful of solid non-arc episodes of DS9? I'm kinda bored and want to watch some of a series I generally haven't bothered with, but not bored enough for a grimdark war arc.
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MisterBibs posted:What are a handful of solid non-arc episodes of DS9? I'm kinda bored and want to watch some of a series I generally haven't bothered with, but not bored enough for a grimdark war arc. Duet (S1), The Visitor (S3), Second Skin (S3), Civil Defense (S3), Past Tense 1 & 2 (S3), Little Green Men (S4), Our Man Bashir (S4), Hard Time (S4), Trials and Tribble-ations (S5), Things Past (S5), Far Beyond the Stars (S6), Take Me Out to the Holosuite (S7). The ones in the later seasons can have some things that relate to the Dominion war (for example, the reason behind Sisko's visions in Far Beyond the Stars) and may spoil earlier events if you ever want to watch the series from start to end but for the most part they are minor references only. I don't remember what exactly is talked about in those episodes but if you want to avoid any important spoilers, don't watch anything past season 5 as the final episode of season 5 and season 6 is when the war really gets going. Edit: I can't believe I forgot Season 2. Whispers, The Wire. Kibayasu fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Dec 18, 2016 10:35
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It's 6am and after being introduced to this excellent music vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5TUw7sUBs I just had to crank out some gifs .... ....... .............    
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twistedmentat posted:Is he hoverhanding? Would you touch a dirty Star Warser?
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Kibayasu posted:Duet (S1), The Visitor (S3), Second Skin (S3), Civil Defense (S3), Past Tense 1 & 2 (S3), Little Green Men (S4), Our Man Bashir (S4), Hard Time (S4), Trials and Tribble-ations (S5), Things Past (S5), Far Beyond the Stars (S6), Take Me Out to the Holosuite (S7). This is a goon who knows what's up. This is a really good list of stand-alone eps.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I read something awhile back about how, with no real type of enemy to focus on, we culturally start looking for a bogeyman and conspiracies become more popular. The fall of the Soviet Union left us without a menace to be scared of, and the conspiracy theory era came to an end when we had terrorists to be scared of at last. Without turning this into the Paranoid 90s Nostalgia Thread (or we can, if anyone wants to), another big influence was the acknowledgement of government wrongdoing throughout the Cold War. Iran-Contra was still fresh in the public consciousness, leading to the Intelligence Authorization Act (where the CIA would have to inform Congress of its activities) in 1991. FBI and CIA whistleblowers went public, often confirming stories that had been rumored for years.Clinton formed the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments in 1994 and apologized for Tuskeegee in 1997. If all this poo poo had been going on for decades, why should we expect it to go away overnight? Then, of course, 9/11 happened and there was a total 180 by the time of the Patriot Act.
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A lot of that is amazing to me in light of what the Church Committee exposed in the 70s. Sadly not enough changed following those revelations.
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Speaking of DS9, and I guess I watched some clips at some point for Youtube to recommend these to me, but there's some crazy person currently uploading a whole bunch of 5-ish minute clips from DS9 So I guess if you ever need one of those good scenes to recommend DS9 to a friend, you have a resource now? Kibayasu fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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