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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Getsuya posted:

Glad you're enjoying it! As a PSP fanboy this was one of my favorite series. I really like the new classes for VFD, and how quickly they start throwing you against the dragons. The first 2 games had some poor pacing at the start, but VFD gets you into the thick of things pretty quickly. It's definitely a solid title and the best in the series.

Another sweet surprise was the sense of humour the game has! For example there's some random guy around when you start to fight the first dragons who goes: "Ha, I played this videogame too, now I can use my skills in reality! :smug: " But then it turns out he is paralyzed by fear and can do jack poo poo! :v:

Or the way you get your unit name: When your corporation overlords bring the question up it sounds like you can soon enter your group's name like the guild name in EO, but then they give you just two dumb options. And instead of selecting them, you can complain about them! And your new lords and masters then go passive-aggressively "Welp OK if you think option A is dumb your group is now named option B". :)

With some of the stuff NPCs are saying, I'm honestly not sure if I'm not playing a subtle parody on Etrian Odyssey-style games. :allears:

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Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
I first thought it would be a browser game since they didn't show any gameplay at all.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
They did gameplay a long while ago, with the gimmick being you can choose between old school top down and the 3d movement.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8QGAluvN-A

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
https://twitter.com/rdbaaa/status/810000740877881344

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

When are they going to make Skies of Arcadia HD.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Bongo Bill posted:

When are they going to make Skies of Arcadia HD.

Honestly your best hope right now is that it turns up on the Gamecube VC for the Nintendo Switch.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Skies of Arcadia.. wasn't that good.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

Verranicus posted:

Skies of Arcadia.. wasn't that good.

Is your entire drive in life to show up randomly when people express positive opinions about RPGs and be contrary?

Also that DQ OP movie gave me chills and I can't fuggin wait.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Trails of Zero has one of the easiest casinos in RPGdom. The poker AI is horrible. As long as you can put together 1 pair most of the time, raise three times and jump off when the prize hits 500 you can clean them out really quick. It's ridiculous.

Also ridiculous is the crafts that completely show up artes, at least during the first half. Lloyd gets an AoE strength boost that makes the strength buff spells instantly obsolete, gun-girl gets an AoE heal that is better than any healing spell at the moment, and Randy gets a 100% blind that hits almost the whole battlefield and does damage. Tita had a weaker version in TitS but they nerfed it for 2, only to bring back an even more broken version for Zero.

Teo also gets a good debuff but I always save up for her Scraft because it has some ridiculous damage output that makes bosses a joke.

Dr. Eldarion
Mar 21, 2001

Deal Dispatcher

Ridiculous casinos make any RPG better, especially if you can turn your winnings into crazily overpowered characters. Unfortunately, more and more it seems like the prizes offered aren't that amazing. :(

I really enjoyed the monster arena betting in FFXV, and there were some cool items to be had, but the bet caps made me sad since it would have taken forever to get the best stuff.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Dr. Eldarion posted:

Ridiculous casinos make any RPG better, especially if you can turn your winnings into crazily overpowered characters. Unfortunately, more and more it seems like the prizes offered aren't that amazing. :(

I really enjoyed the monster arena betting in FFXV, and there were some cool items to be had, but the bet caps made me sad since it would have taken forever to get the best stuff.

I think the problem with casinos is that it's so easy to clean them out and get OP items that the developers hesitate to include OP items and in turn that makes casinos feel less worth it. :/

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Getsuya posted:

Trails of Zero has one of the easiest casinos in RPGdom. The poker AI is horrible. As long as you can put together 1 pair most of the time, raise three times and jump off when the prize hits 500 you can clean them out really quick. It's ridiculous.

Is it any more broken than the Casion in Trails in the Sky SC where you could just trade Mira for coins and buy the prizes? :v:

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Is it any more broken than the Casion in Trails in the Sky SC where you could just trade Mira for coins and buy the prizes? :v:

Actually yeah you can do that too.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

You'd think the Crossbell police would have a rule about gambling while on duty. No wonder people trust the Bracers over the police.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Charles Get-Out posted:

Is your entire drive in life to show up randomly when people express positive opinions about RPGs and be contrary?

On the one hand, every non Action-RPG needs a fast forward button.

But on the other, ugh, Verranicus strikes again with another hot take.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Mr. Fortitude posted:

You'd think the Crossbell police would have a rule about gambling while on duty. No wonder people trust the Bracers over the police.

'Well you see sir, a kid needed a toy that is only purchasable with casino coins. What's that? Why is it our job to give random kids things they want for no particular reason? Well it was a request and... Official? Well, no it wasn't on the network I just sort of walked into this guy's hotel room and talked to him and... Investigation? No I just sort of wanted to see who was staying in the hotel so I just sort of walked in and...'

Lloyd isn't a very good police :downs:

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

I'm very salty about ya'll playing this game I've wanted for years before me because I don't have it in me to process a 3rd language. :(

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Getsuya posted:

'Well you see sir, a kid needed a toy that is only purchasable with casino coins. What's that? Why is it our job to give random kids things they want for no particular reason? Well it was a request and... Official? Well, no it wasn't on the network I just sort of walked into this guy's hotel room and talked to him and... Investigation? No I just sort of wanted to see who was staying in the hotel so I just sort of walked in and...'

Lloyd isn't a very good police :downs:

Lloyd being a lovely cop is something that will be even more obvious once you play Azure.

Zaggitz posted:

I'm very salty about ya'll playing this game I've wanted for years before me because I don't have it in me to process a 3rd language. :(

It all depends on how well Trails in the Sky 3rd sells I suppose. Here's hoping.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Has anyone played Summon Night 5? I just learned of its existence after feeling nostalgic for the GBA games that got localised (Swordcraft Story 1 and 2.) After looking up the series history, turns out someone was nuts enough to try and actually localise another game since I last checked. It looks like a pretty alright game so seems weird that it passed so completely under my radar since I do like to keep a pretty close eye on the JRPG scene, but I guess it being a PSP exclusive release in 2015 might have something to do with it.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

It's a pretty generic SRPG crossed with a harem VN and nothing like the Swordcraft Story games (they were spin offs from the main series originally).

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
All this talk about Trails really makes me question the wisdom of playing multiple story-heavy games in a continuous series, each of which is apparently around 60-100 hours long, when the final installment of said series is not and may never be localized. Especially when every single one ends on some variety of "To Be Continued."

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Most of the the Trails entries wrap up their own individual stories just fine, Sky SC in particular has a pretty satisfying conclusion. Also dunno what you mean by the final installment, since I can't imagine Cold Steel 3 isn't getting a localization and there's no real reason to think it's going to be the final one anyway.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Oxxidation posted:

All this talk about Trails really makes me question the wisdom of playing multiple story-heavy games in a continuous series, each of which is apparently around 60-100 hours long, when the final installment of said series is not and may never be localized. Especially when every single one ends on some variety of "To Be Continued."

Neither Sky SC nor Cold Steel II end on any sort of cliffhanger.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Amppelix posted:

Has anyone played Summon Night 5? I just learned of its existence after feeling nostalgic for the GBA games that got localised (Swordcraft Story 1 and 2.) After looking up the series history, turns out someone was nuts enough to try and actually localise another game since I last checked. It looks like a pretty alright game so seems weird that it passed so completely under my radar since I do like to keep a pretty close eye on the JRPG scene, but I guess it being a PSP exclusive release in 2015 might have something to do with it.

It has a bad translation but it's decent if you're specifically looking for an SRPG and you're done with all the actually good ones.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.

Dr. Eldarion posted:

Ridiculous casinos make any RPG better, especially if you can turn your winnings into crazily overpowered characters. Unfortunately, more and more it seems like the prizes offered aren't that amazing. :(

I really enjoyed the monster arena betting in FFXV, and there were some cool items to be had, but the bet caps made me sad since it would have taken forever to get the best stuff.

The betting was really easy to figure out. I didn't go for the top price but I got the engine and fishing equipment on my first betting session, after spending just 1000 gil. The game really needed proper arena matches IMHO.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

Amppelix posted:

Has anyone played Summon Night 5? I just learned of its existence after feeling nostalgic for the GBA games that got localised (Swordcraft Story 1 and 2.) After looking up the series history, turns out someone was nuts enough to try and actually localise another game since I last checked. It looks like a pretty alright game so seems weird that it passed so completely under my radar since I do like to keep a pretty close eye on the JRPG scene, but I guess it being a PSP exclusive release in 2015 might have something to do with it.

keep in mind, the people who translate the newer summon night games starting with 5 are basically working designs under a new name and they it doesn't sound like they've stopped doing the things people always give their old translations crap for

The Colonel fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Dec 18, 2016

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
They translate 'sempai' as 'senior'. Even if you don't know or care about Japanese you know that 'How's it going senior!' when talking to an old high school buddy Doesn't sound right in English. I have literally never seen any other translation that couldn't find a better way to handle that word than slapping the dictionary translation on it and calling it a day. It's one of the most painfully straight and clunky translations I've ever seen. I'd honestly prefer the old Working Designs 'lol pop culture references!' stuff to this.

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Well with everyone talking about Cold Steel, I'm sort of interested in playing it now. Is it less, uh, aggressively anime than Trails in the Sky? I got to the part where you meet Oliver and sneak onto a pirate airship, and having three characters in your party who serve as walking anime tropes was just a little too much. I also remember getting to a dungeon where you had to go all the way inside only to find a locked door, walk all the way back out of the dungeon to find a cutscene where you get a key, and then walk all the way back to the lock and that was enough to push me over the edge of quitting.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Trails of Cold Steel is The Most Anime. If Olivier was too much, you would absolutely loathe it.

Getting around is easier in general, at least.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
lol if trails sky made you rage at anime, cold steel will murder you in the first hour

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

Getsuya posted:

They translate 'sempai' as 'senior'. Even if you don't know or care about Japanese you know that 'How's it going senior!' when talking to an old high school buddy Doesn't sound right in English. I have literally never seen any other translation that couldn't find a better way to handle that word than slapping the dictionary translation on it and calling it a day. It's one of the most painfully straight and clunky translations I've ever seen. I'd honestly prefer the old Working Designs 'lol pop culture references!' stuff to this.

oh my god lol

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Alright well that takes care of that I suppose. Still need something to play over Christmas break though, any PS4 recommendations? Only games I have are World of FF, FF15, and Digimon Story

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

The Colonel posted:

oh my god lol

The best part is when it's voiced. Hearing someone try to make "How have you been, senior?" sound natural is magical.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Alright well that takes care of that I suppose. Still need something to play over Christmas break though, any PS4 recommendations? Only games I have are World of FF, FF15, and Digimon Story

Samurai Warriors 4, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Overwatch, DOOM, XCOM 2, The Last Guardian.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Getsuya posted:

The best part is when it's voiced. Hearing someone try to make "How have you been, senior?" sound natural is magical.

To be fair I've actually said that line aloud.

Because one of my co-workers works alongside his son who he shares a name with so we call them senior and junior.

Not really the same thing!

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

RareAcumen posted:

Samurai Warriors 4, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Overwatch, DOOM, XCOM 2, The Last Guardian.

Dragon Quest Builders.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

RareAcumen posted:

Samurai Warriors 4, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Overwatch, DOOM, XCOM 2, The Last Guardian.

that's a lot of games not named bloodborne

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Getsuya posted:

The best part is when it's voiced. Hearing someone try to make "How have you been, senior?" sound natural is magical.

Did they try it with a Spanish accent?

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Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Oxxidation posted:

All this talk about Trails really makes me question the wisdom of playing multiple story-heavy games in a continuous series, each of which is apparently around 60-100 hours long, when the final installment of said series is not and may never be localized. Especially when every single one ends on some variety of "To Be Continued."

The final installment isn't even out in japan, We're like 65% of the way through the series and there's no reason to believe anything after cold steel wont come over, we are missing the middle games, not the current ones. Sky second chapter ends conclusively, and 3rd is out in spring, Cold Steel 2 has a lot left hanging but 3 isnt out in japan yet but based on the success of 1 and 2 the west getting 3 is a no brainer.

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