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This game keeps giving me things I've never seen before. Like a narrow room in the Cathedral that had a red angel in it. It didn't drop a key piece, which kinda sucks, I could have used it.
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I've noticed a lot of new room types recently too. I wonder if they did a quiet update to the room types, or they're on some kinda timer to unlock or whatever.
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Is there a mod or something yet that removes the ridiculous dps limit on bosses like Hush and Ultra Greed?
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Oberleutnant posted:I've noticed a lot of new room types recently too. I wonder if they did a quiet update to the room types, or they're on some kinda timer to unlock or whatever. there's just so many rare rooms that you don't see all of them for a long, long time
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Well, Antibirth is apparently landing today at roughly 4PM EST it would seem? Hopefully they can navigate the inside track on ab+ now that both teams are communicating and perhaps hit the ground somewhat running when ab+ lands in a couple weeks or not far beyond it.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Well, Antibirth is apparently landing today at roughly 4PM EST it would seem? Hopefully they can navigate the inside track on ab+ now that both teams are communicating and perhaps hit the ground somewhat running when ab+ lands in a couple weeks or not far beyond it. I'd say this would hold me over until Afterbirth+ is released, but that's only two weeks away! Kind of bad timing for a huge mod, but I'm excited to try it out anyway. I've been playing a mod that gives every character Eden's Blessing at the start, and playing as Eden. It's a lot more fun, and the tear delay modifier makes it so that Eden never gets those low damage and low tears starts. It has the downside of making my rate of fire crazy good with a few tears up effects because Eden's Blessing is a tear delay modifier, not a straight tears up, I think, but it's still fun to start with an extra random passive.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Well, Antibirth is apparently landing today at roughly 4PM EST it would seem? Hopefully they can navigate the inside track on ab+ now that both teams are communicating and perhaps hit the ground somewhat running when ab+ lands in a couple weeks or not far beyond it. For some reason it got pushed back an hour. I also noticed that Antibirth is specifically a mod to Rebirth and not Afterbirth so that's a lot of content that's going to be missing before anything else gets added
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Where are all these mods and how do they work? I've soured a bit on BoI after all the lovely changes (straight up unfair rooms, hilariously bad items, unlockables that just clutter the pools with garbage) so I'd love to try something fresh.
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Dec 20, 2016 22:18
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Your Computer posted:Where are all these mods and how do they work? https://moddingofisaac.com/ Note that these are almost entirely all terrible or useless but there you are. Hopefully we'll get some decent mods in a few weeks.
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Dec 20, 2016 22:27
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Antibirth's countdown timer led to a coming soon message. I need to learn to stop trusting countdown timers on websites. The site's being hammered and is only up intermittently, so it's possible they underestimated the traffic and can't access the site to update it because it's being hammered.
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They posted on Reddit there were last minute bugs that needed fix. Still expecting to release today.
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Dec 21, 2016 01:11
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It's out now. I just installed it and am about to check it out.
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Here's the link.
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So how exactly do mods work? I don't want to screw up my main game (steam), so do I need a separate install of BoI:R?
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Your Computer posted:So how exactly do mods work? I don't want to screw up my main game (steam), so do I need a separate install of BoI:R? Documentation: https://moddingofisaac.com/help/ In short, unpack the downloaded file to your \The Binding of Isaac Rebirth\resources directory. Then just run the game and the mod should be loaded. To remove the mod, remove the extra files. Maybe keep a copy of the unmodded resources directory for easy swapping.
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Is there any issue with steam and just loading a fully unlocked save? I'm not going to get mega and godhead (and all of keeper and greed mode unlocks) before ab+ and I think I'd rather just have everything unlocked at this point.
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Can it not be used with Afterbirth then? Would disabling the Afterbirth DLC and reverting back to Rebirth sod up my save?
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Played a few games of Antibirth and have enjoyed it so far. The Shitlord challenge is great (actually called Scatman - you're the king of turd mountain) and Turbo! is just plain nuts. It's kind of fun to go back to how it was when half the things you pick up are a mystery, but I also miss having access to descriptions for items and challenges. What the heck does the soul heart counter mean in the Bloody Mary challenge?
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chippy posted:Would disabling the Afterbirth DLC and reverting back to Rebirth sod up my save? I'm wondering about this too. I've never done any modding before so I don't know how uh.. "destructive" it is, especially if it's as big as this mod. I've probably put close to 1000 hours into BoI so I'm excited for a fresh experience but it would be a shame if installing Antibirth completely hosed my old installation and save files 
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Antibirth apparently overwrites your Rebirth saves, which are distinct from your Afterbirth saves.
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Mr Phillby posted:Antibirth apparently overwrites your Rebirth saves, which are distinct from your Afterbirth saves. Oh, that's neat! I ended up installing it, but now I'm wondering.. should I play on a new save file or my Real Platinum God save? That is, does playing on the completed save interfere in any way with the new content or does it just mean I won't have to unlock everything else as well?
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Gromit posted:Played a few games of Antibirth and have enjoyed it so far. The Shitlord challenge is great (actually called Scatman - you're the king of turd mountain) and Turbo! is just plain nuts. It's kind of fun to go back to how it was when half the things you pick up are a mystery, but I also miss having access to descriptions for items and challenges. What the heck does the soul heart counter mean in the Bloody Mary challenge? Extra charges for your spacebar item. The buff from the book stacks too.
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Mr Phillby posted:Antibirth apparently overwrites your Rebirth saves, which are distinct from your Afterbirth saves. So, if I disable Afterbirth, install Antibirth, play for a bit, and then re-enable Afterbirth, my save will be as it was before. Is anyone able to confirm that this works?
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First impressions of the mod: Lots of cool new items and effects, everything is very professionally done and the art and everything feels 100% in place (if someone showed it to me and said it was an official expansion, I'd believe it). However.. Several of the new enemies, bosses and rooms seem ridiculously unfair. There are some incredibly overpowered new items, but I don't feel like that makes up for it (in fact I'd rather have neither). Unavoidable damage and DPS checks is just sloppy design, although in all fairness the base game has tons of that now too 
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Your Computer posted:First impressions of the mod: There was one horizontal long room I walked into where there were single-column spitting wall-spiders on the top and bottom, and a long single bridge from the door to the middle of the room. Immediately as I walked in some of those red regenerating guys rushed me. If my DPS wasn't crazy good I would have died. Since it was crazy good, I "only" lost two hearts. The new Bethany character that you unlock by getting twelve spirit/black hearts is a more interesting new character than The Lost or The Keeper though. She can't gain black, spirit, or eternal hearts. Instead, they turn into extra charges for her spacebar item on pickup. The spacebar item is a book that spawns little blue/black/white fires around you that dissipate slightly when they burn an enemy or block a shot, and also they fire tears intermittently when you do. The book sometimes deals damage to all enemies in a room, I think when you use a black heart charge? Also, I think she can only get angel rooms, which start on the second floor like devil rooms would.
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chippy posted:So, if I disable Afterbirth, install Antibirth, play for a bit, and then re-enable Afterbirth, my save will be as it was before. Is anyone able to confirm that this works? Yes it does. Your Computer posted:Several of the new enemies, bosses and rooms seem ridiculously unfair. There are some incredibly overpowered new items, but I don't feel like that makes up for it (in fact I'd rather have neither). Unavoidable damage and DPS checks is just sloppy design, although in all fairness the base game has tons of that now too I completely agree. A lot of the new enemies and room layouts are straight up damage/flight checks. The mod overall seems to make the game harder. I'm too lazy to unpack and check but it seems like some enemies have increased health as well, which just makes the game less fun in general IMO. That said, there's a lot to praise the mod for. From a technical standpoint it's pretty great, making a lot of changes that most modders would consider impossible. It also still feels like Isaac in the end which is something that a lot of the big overhaul mods gently caress up.
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Re: Bethany-- Unless something changed from demo to release, when Cobalt was playing Bethany he got the eternal hearts during the game and extended his meter to like 5 red hearts by the end of the run. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, anyway.
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There was a boss on level 3 I think which is nuts! The Reap Spider or something. It moves back and forth like the Haunt but it is ridiculously tough if you get a bad floor plan like I did.
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Jibo posted:I completely agree. A lot of the new enemies and room layouts are straight up damage/flight checks. The mod overall seems to make the game harder. I'm too lazy to unpack and check but it seems like some enemies have increased health as well, which just makes the game less fun in general IMO. Well put. Also, I hate how many enemies do the "spewing" type of shot like Monstro. The ones that fly upwards and fall down. The game has never been good with z-axis collision, and it's often incredibly hard to see if a shot is supposed to be way above you or right beside you. I had a room now with like 6 of the new monsters that bounce around and spew bullets like that, and it literally filled the entire screen and it just became a matter of "kill them ASAP before you take too much damage".
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ShadowedFlames posted:Re: Bethany-- That's my bad, I thought I picked up an eternal heart because I thought I heard the sound, but it's just some new kind of heart that she can't get. The secret floors are amazing, very difficult but very fair. I just died to a boss that was basically a mob trap room with some extra effects. I died because I was good on health, but then the game crashed and I had to redo a floor but took a lot of stupid full heart damage.
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BJPaskoff posted:That's my bad, I thought I picked up an eternal heart because I thought I heard the sound, but it's just some new kind of heart that she can't get. You're thinking of the new white hearts. I'm not sure their name, maybe spirit hearts, but those take two hits to go away in the Womb and beyond. Otherwise they're like your soul hearts that she can't get because they're fuel for her starting item.
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They also regenerate if you finish a room with one half-empty! They're aces.
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I really wanted to like Bethany but I think they made her stats too low, so you really have to rely on her item. Her gimmick is cool and has a lot of potential (soul hearts as item charge), but I tried using it with several other items and nothing really synergizes as well as her starting item, making her a bit of a one-trick pony. I'm not a fan of the item either, since it acts both as your DPS and your shield. Enemies that charge you or rooms with tons of little enemies/bullets can rip through all your fires in a matter of seconds, even if you were maxed out and then... welp  It makes the screen really busy and it doesn't feel rewarding to use at all to me.
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Your Computer posted:Well put. I'm pretty sure there is literally no z-axis collision check and the actual bullet is just the shadow of the "flying" bullet, which travels in a straight line.
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I've had the opposite experience with Bethany, really. Granted I've only had one clear with her (well, I reached the Chest and died because I had Blood Oath), but once you get enough flames going, she's really hard to kill and rips through stuff like butter. She seems to have an increased drop rate on soul hearts, too, meaning I was pretty much always at 14 flames by the endgame.
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Saigyouji posted:I've had the opposite experience with Bethany, really. Granted I've only had one clear with her (well, I reached the Chest and died because I had Blood Oath), but once you get enough flames going, she's really hard to kill and rips through stuff like butter. Yeah, I felt like a steamroller and finished with something like 40 soul hearts left to use. Went through the Mausoleum and the Sewers and the Mine (?) - loved the little guys riding carts.
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