Khablam posted:

Real F1 fans move to Europe and watch F1 over Sunday lunch.

Pirate Radar posted:

Most races are at dinnertime for me so it's also normal for me to have one or two or six beers

But that's what Sunday lunch means in Europe anyway

quote:

Fernando Alonso believes the current McLaren-Honda team is the best outfit he has worked with across his 15-year career in Formula 1.

"I'm happy, I'm with the best team of my career," said Alonso.

"The level of knowledge and detail that I found here is probably the best.

"The analysis, the work in the factory, the philosophy of designing the car is completely different to what I was used to.

"The driver input and the driver implications are much greater here so we're just missing a competitive car.

"For organisation and things like that, the team is just amazing."

AgentJotun posted:

Totally wrong professor. What becomes more important is a good driver pairing and good team operations - pitstops, strategies etc.

As for the 8 tenths I meant it more in terms of 8 tenths over some mythical baseline car. If Ferrari managed to get 6 tenths worth with their own development and RB 7 tenths.....now maybe its not worth Mercedes money.

Human Grand Prix posted:

From what I've seen enforcing extreme parity doesn't work at all, and the end result is largely the same (the people with more money win.)

Schlesische posted:

There is *always* somewhere they can spend more money, and they will always funnel money into that place.
Diminishing returns be damned.

Ecstatic posted:

The money gets spent regardless, when engine regs were locked RB spent the most on Aero and performed the best, when engines development was open: merc yada yada yada.

Restricting money is hard given the creative accounting most teams can do. I thought restricting resources might be a good way to do it (manhours) but you end up with the creative accounting issue again.

My thoughts? The theoretical budget for your car is $100m (or whatever), you can run whatever development you want throughout the season.

After the first race, the car remains in parc ferme and is transported by the FIA to the next race. You are able to take any parts off your car and change them at the next race / replace the whole car if you want.

Any part taken off the car, goes to the FIA storage shed, the FIA gives it a value (engine~ 10 mill etc). And if a rival team wishes to buy it, they are able to, the net value of all the parts of a car should add up to the budget cap for development.

If you choose to spend bulk cash developing IP for your car to gain an advantage, then your return on investment is cents on the dollar. If you spend only your budget cap and Ferrari buys your entire car, you've just financed your team for the year.

Lawyers could draw up documents that patents could not be infringed upon inside of F1 but if you use it in your road car division then you're open for litigation.

wicka posted:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127521/current-mclaren-best-team-of-alonso-career

1500quidporsche posted:

2017 shall be a glorious year.

dreesemonkey posted:

I still argue I have the best idea for making the races great again interesting (from the previous thread)

- Free practice remains the same.
- Qualifying is done in some sort of revolving "spec-car" that is completely different from an F1 car. Super stadium trucks, karts, NASCAR, WRC, DTM, whatever.
- 5(?) Points awarded for pole (drivers and constructors)

This does a couple of things:
- Qualifiying becomes even more important and intriguing
- Starting grids out of order all the time. Lewis hungover and can't drive a WRC car? Welp he's starting on the 6th row.
- Get to compare drivers apples-to-apples. Could help the 2nd tier drivers differentiate themselves and show the "big teams" that they have the speed.
- Smaller teams would be better off hiring people for raw talent because if you get a talented driver that can get 2 poles, boom Sauber just leapfrogged Manor in the constructors championship.
- Teams with the best car and still win, but strategy and pitstops become even more important.

Hey liberty media - Call me!

dreesemonkey posted:

I still argue I have the best idea for making the races great again interesting (from the previous thread)

- Free practice remains the same.
- Qualifying is done in some sort of revolving "spec-car" that is completely different from an F1 car. Super stadium trucks, karts, NASCAR, WRC, DTM, whatever.
- 5(?) Points awarded for pole (drivers and constructors)

This does a couple of things:
- Qualifiying becomes even more important and intriguing
- Starting grids out of order all the time. Lewis hungover and can't drive a WRC car? Welp he's starting on the 6th row.
- Get to compare drivers apples-to-apples. Could help the 2nd tier drivers differentiate themselves and show the "big teams" that they have the speed.
- Smaller teams would be better off hiring people for raw talent because if you get a talented driver that can get 2 poles, boom Sauber just leapfrogged Manor in the constructors championship.
- Teams with the best car and still win, but strategy and pitstops become even more important.

Hey liberty media - Call me!

iospace posted:

fourth is LeMons (),

1500quidporsche posted:

Nige was an alright driver but I was more of a Piquet person and Mansell always seems to have a moan whenever he talks about his time in the sport so he puts me off a little bit.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

That's one of the most interesting racing ideas I can imagine, taking a whole field of billion dollar F1 teams and giving them a few days to set up a legal lemons car and race it

learnincurve posted:

Lewis wasn't even nominated for, or invited to, the sports personality of the year* ceremony lol



*UK's only big sports awards.

kzn, post: 13520, member: 158 posted:

I like how Dare is taking this "we should be inclusive" position while at the same time being one of the loudest voices in support of old T1 style pug picking, which is exclusionary as *scoot*.

El Hefe posted:

What the hell is going on in this thread

Human Grand Prix posted:

Airton Dare sounds like he's lost it.

HateCrimeDoxNet posted:

HateCrimeDoxNet posted:

Lowtax, Lowtax's Wives, Anita Sarkeesian and plagiarizing identities who was GaTeWaY

I wrote this on shifter forums for her, I got the ideas from some lovely hs class and books, she recompiled the ideas and took credit for them as her own

you have a massive liar on your team man

Full text of "Sarkeesian2010.pdf (PDFy mirror)"

yo pedophile shithead the people at maxogc.net told me one of your ex wives or current wife pretended to be my teenage transsexual shifter identity GaTeWaY aka g8w4y the 300 ping sniper on hillhse that went on to be a top ranked Shifter_v1g and Shifter_K leader

was it some loser from Shifter_TG or Shifter_X?


was it from Dan Touesnard Chump - aka Doomtrain from team axiom that i lead who used theexiled as a home base with his family (poo poo version of shifter)


i have so many people that will vouch for who i was, the type of feminism i was talking about back then and the ethics i was preaching

i have all my old aims

i have demos of me playing during this era with the name

wtf is your problem u loving pedophile? you think its feminist to steal a trans kids identities and take credit for the ideas?

gently caress u




Ya you don't know me.

having been lgbtqia my whole life i did a lot of shifter while saying i was a girl, i got called "it", i got into fights with absent from TW irl who was a rival team leader in Shifter, who would call me various racist terms in real life with his goon buddies (which are just censored on this forum with other racist terms - like see how k-i-k-e- when spelled correctly word filter turns into kike for example - thrify individual is pretty racist a word filter for a slur against jews imo - censoring it or word filtering doesnt take the racism out of it, u cant cover that stuff up). i got called this stuff at school by tribes players, i got robbed at school by tribes players, i got pushed into lockers and had rocks thrown at me by tribes players. i have seen the violence and fascism that toxic groups create first hand while being trans myself and no absolutist authoritarian sjw or upper-middle-class racial minority is going to censor what ive lived through for ego points and feels - thats how kotakuinaction and tumblrinaction happened but I'm not gonna react just post. this anti semitism has been following me since a single digit age on geocities, it isnt going to stop till its dead

All the noobies I trained in Shifter and some later in LT, made into pro players, some of these noobies are even on the private testing team now. One or two might even be on staff if I'm remembering right.
Were ziro and z3ro really two different people? I have them both on my steam but keep thinking they're the same fellow smurfing... I can remember when Stork could flat out not Home D at all and when Opsayo sucked at LT and was obsing for a year just to learn and when Sleepy was perma-benched.

How about the E-Sports organizations I started solely about being inclusive to noobies and training them, like HawkBats which I inherit from some of the first openly gay Tribes players?, or the Unknown Cult [?] - meant to include everyone not on the #1 team as a union.
The smurf team the -Toes that Benny, Sharper, etc., and I ran. All the shifter Revivals where I had to manage 300+ person aim contact lists? Bringing Shifter league to TWL with the help of Nonreg and Lix later having them rig matches for us LT noobies (but shifter/quake/cs pros) on team A Perfect Circle vs terraforce's Blood Eagles?

Participating as leader of various teams like {FL} FreeLancers which Kovaak from Quake and I ran in late gen shifter, taking over from Mr. Fuji, Lester Chen the head of Youtube E- Sports is from that team and played as Cra$h. https://www.linkedin.com/in/lester-chen-7aa9a92b

x_x| where I was taught much by f0rg0tt3n-s0ul who went on to play Cal-I 1.6 with lurker and also taught them a few new tricks as well. The Fruit Cult which was solely meant to combat the exclusive, elitist attitude of Imperial Order our rival archetype team (absent from tw's team). Countless others, seed, pd, dgd, hw, DOD, mh, etc. etc. How many literal trans, gay, womyn, othered, intersectional E-Sports figures were on that team? Anita Sarkeesian? {FL} WonderGirl one of the best turret farmers to ever play the game???? - pretending to be a black nurse named Wendy from Kentucky LOL. Naw Never Couldn't happen. Dare is a big liar. All of the leagues and ladders and tourneys I've run and done - those golden broadsides take care and love to deliver to people, they come from the Shifter Battle Arena, invented by Billatron and Osiris, adapted from Bunny's The Shifter League from UFR and KIN days.

Some of this stuff I was doing before t2 was even being marketed for, at a very young age, leading teams of adults on my local pub server hillhse.

Ive done more than my fair share of noobie training. I have run noobie nights and noobie only teams where I trained people daily. I have trained hundreds individually personally, in how to play Tribes and especially in Shifter. I'd like to bring it to youtube one day like Kovaak has done with Quake.

For now it costs money for my lessons or a show of real heart. I teach noobie nights in reflex cpma pro bono after a year of practicing.

I am no t1 elitist. t1 is just objectively the most superior game in the series and least controversial and most inclusive. And I've seen enough indie and sequel tribes games fail I simply have no will to be the best or most generous in midair when so many of the players are supposed to be Archetype players already.

It isn't wrong to run best of breed pu's in LT when you're looking to compete. At least I never flat out banned whole servers of people showing up to pu if they weren't up to snuff like Chump used to. Try that on for size and see who's the elitist or cold.

Ive given enough of my time, money, and blood to Tribes, now give me something back, like a good game, or a good tourney that does what its advertised to do.

I'm sick of the noobies with attitude self-glorifying themselves off playing terrible iterations of the series or that have permanent victim complexes because they were benched in A+ pus.

The A+ pus are A+ for a reason and aren't advertised as being inclusive.

If your draft tourney is meant to be inclusive. Then make it inclusive. And don't blame me when you screw it up because that isn't very Archetype like.


-edit- and since this was deleted by the cover up admins

El Hefe posted:

McLaren is a loving mess and Nando is in full denial mode.

wicka posted:

Jost Capito is on his way out at McLaren. Sounds like he was appointed to be little more than a surrogate for Ron and they don't need both him and Boullier.

HateCrimeDoxNet posted:

Lowtax, Lowtax's Wives, Anita Sarkeesian and plagiarizing identities who was GaTeWaY

I wrote this on shifter forums for her, I got the ideas from some lovely hs class and books, she recompiled the ideas and took credit for them as her own

you have a massive liar on your team man

Full text of "Sarkeesian2010.pdf (PDFy mirror)"

yo pedophile shithead the people at maxogc.net told me one of your ex wives or current wife pretended to be my teenage transsexual shifter identity GaTeWaY aka g8w4y the 300 ping sniper on hillhse that went on to be a top ranked Shifter_v1g and Shifter_K leader

was it some loser from Shifter_TG or Shifter_X?


was it from Dan Touesnard Chump - aka Doomtrain from team axiom that i lead who used theexiled as a home base with his family (poo poo version of shifter)


i have so many people that will vouch for who i was, the type of feminism i was talking about back then and the ethics i was preaching

i have all my old aims

i have demos of me playing during this era with the name

wtf is your problem u loving pedophile? you think its feminist to steal a trans kids identities and take credit for the ideas?

gently caress u




Ya you don't know me.

having been lgbtqia my whole life i did a lot of shifter while saying i was a girl, i got called "it", i got into fights with absent from TW irl who was a rival team leader in Shifter, who would call me various racist terms in real life with his goon buddies (which are just censored on this forum with other racist terms - like see how k-i-k-e- when spelled correctly word filter turns into kike for example - thrify individual is pretty racist a word filter for a slur against jews imo - censoring it or word filtering doesnt take the racism out of it, u cant cover that stuff up). i got called this stuff at school by tribes players, i got robbed at school by tribes players, i got pushed into lockers and had rocks thrown at me by tribes players. i have seen the violence and fascism that toxic groups create first hand while being trans myself and no absolutist authoritarian sjw or upper-middle-class racial minority is going to censor what ive lived through for ego points and feels - thats how kotakuinaction and tumblrinaction happened but I'm not gonna react just post. this anti semitism has been following me since a single digit age on geocities, it isnt going to stop till its dead

All the noobies I trained in Shifter and some later in LT, made into pro players, some of these noobies are even on the private testing team now. One or two might even be on staff if I'm remembering right.
Were ziro and z3ro really two different people? I have them both on my steam but keep thinking they're the same fellow smurfing... I can remember when Stork could flat out not Home D at all and when Opsayo sucked at LT and was obsing for a year just to learn and when Sleepy was perma-benched.

How about the E-Sports organizations I started solely about being inclusive to noobies and training them, like HawkBats which I inherit from some of the first openly gay Tribes players?, or the Unknown Cult [?] - meant to include everyone not on the #1 team as a union.
The smurf team the -Toes that Benny, Sharper, etc., and I ran. All the shifter Revivals where I had to manage 300+ person aim contact lists? Bringing Shifter league to TWL with the help of Nonreg and Lix later having them rig matches for us LT noobies (but shifter/quake/cs pros) on team A Perfect Circle vs terraforce's Blood Eagles?

Participating as leader of various teams like {FL} FreeLancers which Kovaak from Quake and I ran in late gen shifter, taking over from Mr. Fuji, Lester Chen the head of Youtube E- Sports is from that team and played as Cra$h. https://www.linkedin.com/in/lester-chen-7aa9a92b

x_x| where I was taught much by f0rg0tt3n-s0ul who went on to play Cal-I 1.6 with lurker and also taught them a few new tricks as well. The Fruit Cult which was solely meant to combat the exclusive, elitist attitude of Imperial Order our rival archetype team (absent from tw's team). Countless others, seed, pd, dgd, hw, DOD, mh, etc. etc. How many literal trans, gay, womyn, othered, intersectional E-Sports figures were on that team? Anita Sarkeesian? {FL} WonderGirl one of the best turret farmers to ever play the game???? - pretending to be a black nurse named Wendy from Kentucky LOL. Naw Never Couldn't happen. Dare is a big liar. All of the leagues and ladders and tourneys I've run and done - those golden broadsides take care and love to deliver to people, they come from the Shifter Battle Arena, invented by Billatron and Osiris, adapted from Bunny's The Shifter League from UFR and KIN days.

Some of this stuff I was doing before t2 was even being marketed for, at a very young age, leading teams of adults on my local pub server hillhse.

Ive done more than my fair share of noobie training. I have run noobie nights and noobie only teams where I trained people daily. I have trained hundreds individually personally, in how to play Tribes and especially in Shifter. I'd like to bring it to youtube one day like Kovaak has done with Quake.

For now it costs money for my lessons or a show of real heart. I teach noobie nights in reflex cpma pro bono after a year of practicing.

I am no t1 elitist. t1 is just objectively the most superior game in the series and least controversial and most inclusive. And I've seen enough indie and sequel tribes games fail I simply have no will to be the best or most generous in midair when so many of the players are supposed to be Archetype players already.

It isn't wrong to run best of breed pu's in LT when you're looking to compete. At least I never flat out banned whole servers of people showing up to pu if they weren't up to snuff like Chump used to. Try that on for size and see who's the elitist or cold.

Ive given enough of my time, money, and blood to Tribes, now give me something back, like a good game, or a good tourney that does what its advertised to do.

I'm sick of the noobies with attitude self-glorifying themselves off playing terrible iterations of the series or that have permanent victim complexes because they were benched in A+ pus.

The A+ pus are A+ for a reason and aren't advertised as being inclusive.

If your draft tourney is meant to be inclusive. Then make it inclusive. And don't blame me when you screw it up because that isn't very Archetype like.


-edit- and since this was deleted by the cover up admins

1500quidporsche posted:

They're finally cleaning up the mess Ron created. Lord knows we may actually see a single person leading the technical side of things for once as well.

El Hefe posted:

McLaren is a loving mess and Nando is in full denial mode.

learnincurve posted:

Lewis wasn't even nominated for, or invited to, the sports personality of the year* ceremony lol



*UK's only big sports awards.