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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

loquacius posted:

Allow me to point out that Insane Clown Posse being elected Co-Presidents of the United States with the help of Supreme Court Chief Justice Guy Fieri was the cause of the apocalypse in Andrew Hussie's multimedia masterpiece MS Paint Adventures: Homestuck, and furthermore
the entire world dying of coronary heart disease from fried hot pockets is not above the 60th percentile of "lovely ways for civilization to end"

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Tatum Girlparts posted:

statistically the only group that voted for trump exclusively enough to be majority was white people

I didn't know the middle class was its own race.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


i was like "Phil????" and instead I got Miracles :smith:

This is basically a rickroll

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
i propose a kind of political gom jabbar test, where in order to be judged ready for office, the candidate must be able to explain credit default swaps to a juggalo in a way that makes sense to them

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Al! posted:

i renounce abuela and all of her works

oppo bomb

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tatum Girlparts posted:

statistically the only group that voted for trump exclusively enough to be majority was white people

That's a pretty big group, dude.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

paranoid randroid posted:

i propose a kind of political gom jabbar test, where in order to be judged ready for office, the candidate must be able to explain credit default swaps to a juggalo in a way that makes sense to them

no elections ever again because nobody could possibly qualify

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

loquacius posted:

i was like "Phil????" and instead I got Miracles :smith:

This is basically a rickroll

it's because the caring was lies.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

no elections ever again because nobody could possibly qualify

we'll never produce the Kwisatz Haderach with an attitude like that

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

why does the obama faction of the democratic party have to be petulant children especially at a time like this

everyone else gets to be petulant children, so they're probably feeling left out

Thoguh posted:

So the electoral college result is going to be Trump beating Clinton by 4 more votes than expected?

this is just a perfect sum-up of 2016

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Main Paineframe posted:

this is just a perfect sum-up of 2016

I desperately want that wannabe faithless elector in Maine to challenge the law against faithless electors, take it all the way to the Supreme Court, win, and in 2019 the 2016 election result is adjusted and one more vote is taken away from Clinton

Bill Buckner
Aug 14, 2005
Petulance is the central theme the rebuilt Democrats will rally around. It transcends factional infighting.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

not all the working class are loving juggalos dude that's like way more hateful than anything the republicans have ever said about the poor

I feel you ALL PRO SEXMAN. I'm a veteran of looking at and laughing at weird things on the internet and in general. I'm an Fplusman too.

But remember that guy at that Michael Albert talk who says that the people at sports bars "aren't his kind of people?" And the weakness shown there is that there's a lack of desire to reach out to people you don't already like? Well, it's kinda the same with Juggalos I think. These are people on the rusty edges of society, who've come together over bad music. I like museums and special cheese and my music normally has post in the front of it's genre or wave in the back of it. But I don't want to just help people who like what I like.

I would go through some place called Jamestown a lot. It's not a decrepit town, but you can see it used to be more than it was. There was a little grocer I'd go by, often times twice a day, around houses that needed work years ago that no one had ever bothered to do. Houses that could've once been beautiful, but have clearly decayed and slumped over time. I saw two things always present in that grocier: a sign that said it could cash checks and a big display case of Faygo.

I'm not really into ICP. I don't think it's good music. But I want to help those people, and you cannot hate those you want to help. You can't sneer and look down on the people who's lives you want to improve.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Good job United for America: Hillary had more faithless electors than Donald Trump.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

paranoid randroid posted:

we'll never produce the Kwisatz Haderach with an attitude like that

I must not fear, fear is the career killer

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/810965937566478336

lmfao the hillshills really did it

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

not all the working class are loving juggalos dude that's like way more hateful than anything the republicans have ever said about the poor

Yeah, you tell that guy who implied the entire working class was composed of juggalos, kick his rear end!!!!

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

logikv9 posted:

why not both

Make both of them IK

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
gently caress you Bret

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

D&D status: still blaming bernie for something the Hamilton Electors did

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
The Hillary social media team already found new work.

https://twitter.com/MTVNews/status/810960588973035520

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Grondoth posted:

I feel you ALL PRO SEXMAN. I'm a veteran of looking at and laughing at weird things on the internet and in general. I'm an Fplusman too.

But remember that guy at that Michael Albert talk who says that the people at sports bars "aren't his kind of people?" And the weakness shown there is that there's a lack of desire to reach out to people you don't already like? Well, it's kinda the same with Juggalos I think. These are people on the rusty edges of society, who've come together over bad music. I like museums and special cheese and my music normally has post in the front of it's genre or wave in the back of it. But I don't want to just help people who like what I like.

I would go through some place called Jamestown a lot. It's not a decrepit town, but you can see it used to be more than it was. There was a little grocer I'd go by, often times twice a day, around houses that needed work years ago that no one had ever bothered to do. Houses that could've once been beautiful, but have clearly decayed and slumped over time. I saw two things always present in that grocier: a sign that said it could cash checks and a big display case of Faygo.

I'm not really into ICP. I don't think it's good music. But I want to help those people, and you cannot hate those you want to help. You can't sneer and look down on the people who's lives you want to improve.

you're absolutely right and it's not so much that I'm sneering at juggalos it's that I'm sneering at how people in this thread seem to have gone from laughing about the idea of juggalos as a vanguard party to either taking that idea seriously or talking about it with so many layers of irony that I can't tell the difference between joking and sincerity any more

and your complaint about Michael Albert types are absolutely correct. for the longest time I've always thought socialists need to become sports fans if they want to accomplish anything

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

"laughing about" does not necessarily equal "hating or disliking"

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

MaxxBot posted:

The Hillary social media team already found new work.

https://twitter.com/MTVNews/status/810960588973035520

:chloe:

You weren't kidding...

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Gizmoduck_5000 posted:

You are wrong. The american electorate just proved that they are nothing but a bunch of drooling idiots who will give a bloviating reality TV star nuclear codes. Platform doesn't matter, branding does. Their not going to buy into your progressive platform if it's got "socialism" stamped onto the front, because they've been in an echo chamber of conservative talk radio all their lives. Stop trying to bring the American people up to your level...they're a bunch of gullible, poo poo-smeared troglodytes who can be distracted by shiny objects and persuaded with weasel words.

Come up with a different name for Socialism, or the right wins permanently.
that's because clinton made the GE not about the issues because she had no credible progressive platform to run on. her platform messaging was essentially status quo and anti-trump.

sanders did way better than he reasonably should have given the circumstances and he did this almost entirely by campaigning genuinely on a concrete and specific progressive platform

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn
I wonder if they consider MTVnews to be "fake news".

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I'm sure the vast majority of Juggalos are just dudes/dudettes who just like their weird clown christian(???) rap and probably have friends who are also in the community they dig hanging out with, and are perfectly normal/decent people who's values and opinions should be respected like everyone else.

There's nothing about that that keeps me from laughing at the fact that the ICP is crazyballs and their gatherings are crazy mad max festivals of hatchet tossing, helicopter rides, and sketchy pro wrestling. Hell, I'm into that (everything but the having to actually listen to ICP). It's perfectly fine to laugh at a group you have no problem with the majority of because


Anime Schoolgirl posted:

"laughing about" does not necessarily equal "hating or disliking"

Juggalos in poverty should be helped just like everyone else in poverty should be, I think anyone who genuinely believes we need economic justice except for clown rap fans is a loving crazy person and I'm pretty sure doesn't actually exist in a meaningful way.

I do agree that the line should be drawn between 'these guys are fuckin weird' and 'lol THE POORS am I right?' Juggalo weirdness has nothing to do with economic status, and there's zero reason to be all 'heh yea fuckin poor trailer trash am I right guys' when you can just stick to 'are those guys throwing hatchets at a wall while someone shoots them with a super soaker full of soda?'

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

MaxxBot posted:

The Hillary social media team already found new work.

https://twitter.com/MTVNews/status/810960588973035520

Tbf at least the people posting this aren't official surrogates for the Democratic nominee

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

it is pretty telling that all the non-colin powell faithless electors were denied, but the colin powell faithless electors were approved in a state that could and should have denied them

upper-rank democrats would rather vote for loving colin powell than their "second best" option :sad:

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

loquacius posted:

I just wanna say I posted multiple socialist country and folk songs earlier and nobody cared :negative:

I listened and liked. Thank you keep posting interesting poo poo please

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

MaxxBot posted:

The Hillary social media team already found new work.

https://twitter.com/MTVNews/status/810960588973035520

It's me, I'm the guy who watched this and was convinced to stop being racist

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I try not to make it a point to make a joke that involves stereotypes about a group on the same level as myself without commenting on the ridiculousness of my own existence.

E.g.: "say what you will about juggalo sense of hygiene and/or priorities in life, but they are having more sex than I am."

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Guy Goodbody posted:

It's me, I'm the guy who watched this and was convinced to stop being racist

What's it like being a white, upper-middle class person's wet dream?

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
say what you will about hillary but she sure isn't going to be president lmao

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

paranoid randroid posted:

we'll never produce the Kwisatz Haderach with an attitude like that

you mean the Quiznos Hateraid

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Guy Goodbody posted:

It's me, I'm the guy who watched this and was convinced to stop being racist

cuck.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

MaxxBot posted:

The Hillary social media team already found new work.

https://twitter.com/MTVNews/status/810960588973035520

Do you think wardrobe put the black guy in a cat shirt to make him come off as less threatening?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

I try not to make it a point to make a joke that involves stereotypes about a group on the same level as myself without commenting on the ridiculousness of my own existence.

E.g.: "say what you will about juggalo sense of hygiene and/or priorities in life, but they are having more sex than I am."

I have seen enough 'juggalo baby shower' things to confirm as weird as they are these clown people are getting rear end on the reg apparently

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Ace of Baes posted:

Do you think wardrobe put the black guy in a cat shirt to make him come off as less threatening?

*extremely network executive voice* "can you try doing that less...street?"

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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Al! posted:

you mean the Quiznos Hateraid

god dammit i specifically asked for no hateration on my sandwich

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