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Al! posted:as if you could ever get the leftists to agree to line up in a circle like that paranoid randroid posted:lets just sort of mill around and shoot each other in the head at random intervals then tbf the left does this with more precision and determined motions than i've seen at the tomb of the unknown soldier
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paranoid randroid posted:lets just sort of mill around and shoot each other in the head at random intervals then ahhh, just like la revolucion.
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I too am confused as to why Keith would endorse that Florida megadonor. this is the first thing I've seen him do that's troubling
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redneck nazgul posted:tbf the left does this with more precision and determined motions than i've seen at the tomb of the unknown soldier ideological purging is like the one thing the left is better at than the right, let us have this please
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Ace of Baes posted:A vocal minority that has hijacked Gender studies to be exclusionary wrt minority, trans, and class issues, so uhhh no? You're the one giving them the power by listening and engaging them and grouping them. I've dealt with trust fund shitheads like this before, but to automatically dismiss a race and status as a whole because of a few shitheads is part of the problem. There are actually potential allies in that area that aren't so far up their asses. It's antagonistic because you're seeking vengeance from a perceived slight and it fits that narrative so good, "uck rich spoiled white kids" *jams whole hand down throat to trigger gag reflex out of virtue signaling* and it serves nothing in the long run. Al! posted:as if you could ever get the leftists to agree to line up in a circle like that The Leftist Linear Firing Squad. "Easier and cost effective with 1 bullet!  " - Crony Capitalists
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Serf posted:I too am confused as to why Keith would endorse that Florida megadonor. this is the first thing I've seen him do that's troubling (or he could just be a fake non-establishment guy)
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Pollyanna posted:basically when you say "gently caress feminists" it is not immediately obvious whether you're a leftist or a gamergater I never even said gently caress feminism. I didn't even say gently caress feminists! I even specifically rules out literally the vast majority of feminists in that post (any feminists that weren't 70s feminists) and I never said or meant it to include all 70s feminists since I was specifically referring to the ones who did the action I found distasteful and it was the action I was criticizing, or at least thought I was criticizing. paranoid randroid posted:lets just sort of mill around and shoot each other in the head at random intervals then Leftist Deathmatch, no milling about, act with intent.
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Pollyanna posted:basically when you say "gently caress feminists" it is not immediately obvious whether you're a leftist or a gamergater I know, some dude accused me of being an ignorant Clinton hater when paraphrasing Carbado's "Colorblind Intersectionality" like 10 pages ago lol
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You know, with the candidacy of Donald Trump, there's been a lot of discussion of what really unites the Republican Party and makes them a coherent party, and I think you could come up with lots of really good uniting points; anti-cosmopolitanism, anti-internationalism, and overall distrust of government and intellectuals. What points, what values, unite the Democratic coalition that we already have? Without striving to at least understand our own coalition, I don't see how we can hope to expand it.
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GlyphGryph posted:I never even said gently caress feminism. I didn't even say gently caress feminists! I even specifically rules out literally the vast majority of feminists in that post (any feminists that weren't 70s feminists) and I never said or meant it to include all 70s feminists since I was specifically referring to the ones who did the action I found distasteful and it was the action I was criticizing, or at least thought I was criticizing. generic "you" in that sentence, if it wasn't clear  and i was pretty flippant in that phrasing, but basically it's a sensitive issue and until we figure out a good framework for addressing it feet are going to be stepped onalso im barely paying attention to this cause i gotta shower n work n do errands n poo poo
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Al! posted:ideological purging is like the one thing the left is better at than the right, let us have this please that's not true we have better comedians and celebrities, look at them, look at how great they are lena dunham understands my pain as a blue collar white dude
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Lastgirl posted:You're the one giving them the power by listening and engaging them and grouping them. I've dealt with trust fund shitheads like this before, but to automatically dismiss a race and status as a whole because of a few shitheads is part of the problem. There are actually potential allies in that area that aren't so far up their asses. It's antagonistic because you're seeking vengeance from a perceived slight and it fits that narrative so good, "uck rich spoiled white kids" *jams whole hand down throat to trigger gag reflex out of virtue signaling* and it serves nothing in the long run.
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paranoid randroid posted:lets just sort of mill around and shoot each other in the head at random intervals then what kind of gun are you packing? i prefer to snipe at any wrong think with this kind of baby 
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Thoguh posted:Here's something different to discuss. I've seen this picture before and every time I see it all I can think is "wow, everyone got so old"
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Ace of Baes posted:Actually you can dismiss rich feminists really easy because people making more than $250,000/y make up less than 1.5% of the population. You shouldn't dismiss people just because they are a minority.
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Ace of Baes posted:Actually you can dismiss rich feminists really easy because people making more than $250,000/y make up less than 1.5% of the population.  And they're in the loving minority.  Again.GlyphGryph posted:You shouldn't dismiss people just because they are a minority.  hypocrite~ 
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Pollyanna posted:also it was mostly al's "feminists enemy #1" post that made me worried That wasn't a serious post, he was being passive-aggressive at the rest of the thread
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Pollyanna posted:also it was mostly al's "feminists enemy #1" post that made me worried that's reasonable, it was designed to
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Democrazy posted:You know, with the candidacy of Donald Trump, there's been a lot of discussion of what really unites the Republican Party and makes them a coherent party, and I think you could come up with lots of really good uniting points; anti-cosmopolitanism, anti-internationalism, and overall distrust of government and intellectuals.
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Al! posted:that's reasonable, it was designed to keep em shook
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Democrazy posted:What points, what values, unite the Democratic coalition that we already have? Without striving to at least understand our own coalition, I don't see how we can hope to expand it. uhhhhhh we're not republicans
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Democrazy posted:You know, with the candidacy of Donald Trump, there's been a lot of discussion of what really unites the Republican Party and makes them a coherent party This was not a good election for your average fiscal conservative social hard rear end Republican candidate, this is people wanting bajillions of deficit spending to fight poverty in left-behind areas.
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I think that at it's core, the Democratic message has to be that we are pro-government
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Al! posted:that's reasonable, it was designed to oh you bomb throwing anarchist you~~~
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Serf posted:I think that at it's core, the Democratic message has to be that we are pro-government I think the Democratic message has to be that we're anti-management and pro-labor e: this is the part where we call each other splitters and shoot each other right
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Al! posted:that's reasonable, it was designed to Then it was pretty lovely by design
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Lastgirl posted:
They're a minority who shouldn't be pandered to because they're literally the oppressors, they can't be ignored because they're what's holding back actual progress by defining what's "important" and shaping the narrative, I dont know how to better explain it.
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Agean90 posted:oh you bomb throwing anarchist you~~~ im a liberal
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Lastgirl posted:what kind of gun are you packing? big mosin obrez fan here 
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GlyphGryph posted:Then it was pretty lovely by design yes, glyphgraph, that opinion is a really lovely one i agree
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loquacius posted:I think the Democratic message has to be that we're anti-management and pro-labor That works too
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Al! posted:im a liberal oh sure I get ya fellow liberal 
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Al! posted:yes, glyphgraph, that opinion is a really lovely one i agree Should we spend multiple pages sharing other lovely opinions no one in the thread actually seems then, do you think?
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Pollyanna posted:hmmmmmmmmmm :/ i wonder why. olive branch to the establishment and an indication that he'll be willing to do the job without getting caught up in partisanship, i think. as DNC chair, he can encourage progressives to run in seats with no Dem competition and he can urge candidates toward progressive messaging, but the head of the Dem fundraising organization isn't really in a position to piss off big donors and dedicated fundraisers for the sake of ideological purity or "draining the swamp", and there's no way Schumer and other establishment figures would have put him forward if they weren't confident that he was willing to agree with that that's why i was always skeptical of the DNC chair push. he might personally be progressive, but given the choice between a centrist incumbent or megadonor and a progressive long-shot challenger, it's the DNC's job to back the centrist
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GlyphGryph posted:Should we spend multiple pages sharing other lovely opinions no one in the thread actually seems then, do you think? yes
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GlyphGryph posted:Should we spend multiple pages sharing other lovely opinions no one in the thread actually seems then, do you think? thats the problem people seem to think it so you have the option of distancing yourself from it, which you did! good job!
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Robo-James Carville: It's the proletariat, stupid!
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Al! posted:thats the problem I was kinda miffed at the implication that I did think it, so good job miffing me, well miffed
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