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Prav posted:nothing outrageous, just bring some gravity resist for bahamut Is this available to somewhat new players? I've not been able to find any KO-resist.
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So I hear there's a goon multi-player discord. Can someone please hook me up? I don't think it's possible to beat 200 diff Gilgamesh with pubbies.
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Dec 22, 2016 00:37
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KPC_Mammon posted:Is this available to somewhat new players? I've not been able to find any KO-resist. Not recently, without some "good" offbanner luck. I think Hope's Scarf has come up in the last few FF13 events, but that's minor resistance and won't help worth poo poo against Exaflare's hit rates being as high as they are. Past that, the main sources of Instant Death resistance are:
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Elephant Ambush posted:So I hear there's a goon multi-player discord. Can someone please hook me up? I don't think it's possible to beat 200 diff Gilgamesh with pubbies. Pubbie Gilgapocalypse is totally doable, though you'll have to be picky about the groups you go with. Just bail if it looks like it's missing several key things like hastega, medica, etc, until you get a well balanced group. But check out the discord. It's rad.
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Attestant posted:Just bail if it looks like it's missing several key things like hastega, medica, etc, until you get a well balanced group. This is what I did to beat it first try
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Attestant posted:Pubbie Gilgapocalypse is totally doable, though you'll have to be picky about the groups you go with. Just bail if it looks like it's missing several key things like hastega, medica, etc, until you get a well balanced group. This is absolutely the key to doing any of the pubbie multiplayer events. No one bringing supports? People bringing awful hones and default soul breaks? Just bail out and find a different group. I've found it to be extremely helpful to bring my own healer for my backline (Aeris with BSB) so I don't have to rely on other people as well. I've one shot ever one so far except Haukke by using ditching groups that didn't look like they were going to cut it. I'll definitely have to check the discord though.
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Dec 22, 2016 01:25
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I had a pubbie team that had no right to win the easier Gilgapocalypse, but did so anyway. The loving healer spammed power breakdown and didn't use their medica until the last turn. 
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Dec 22, 2016 01:30
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"The instant invite is invalid or has expired"  Can anyone else help?Attestant posted:Pubbie Gilgapocalypse is totally doable, though you'll have to be picky about the groups you go with. Just bail if it looks like it's missing several key things like hastega, medica, etc, until you get a well balanced group. To beat the 160 diff I ended up hosting (which I prefer to do anyway) and just started aggressively kicking people that didn't have the stuff we needed. I felt bad doing it but that's what's necessary for the harder stuff. Elephant Ambush fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 01:31
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Elephant Ambush posted:"The instant invite is invalid or has expired" https://discord.gg/83h3U6r This is a fresh key and should work.
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Dec 22, 2016 01:39
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Koobes posted:https://discord.gg/83h3U6r That worked. Thanks!
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Uh wow Gil Turtles can really gently caress up your day if you go in unprepared
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Koobes posted:https://discord.gg/83h3U6r Thanks for the link, I missed it earlier as well.
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Gil Turtle's counter is dumb garbage that doesn't care if you own 3 pairs of Cloud's goggles but gently caress him I still beat it eventually with some S/L and because Lifesiphon/SBs can't miss. In hindsight tauntaliate probably shuts down his counters entirely.LornMarkus posted:Yeah I still remember when I was in the BE thread and some guy just popped up saying he'd dropped like ninety or a hundred dollars and hadn't gotten what he wanted, then popped back up ten minutes later saying he dropped another ninety and still hadn't gotten what he wanted. Just loving surreal. "I spent a hundred dollars on this banner" is not a whale. "I spend a hundred dollars on every banner" is more what game developers mean when they use the whale label. Whales don't spend hundreds per year, they spend thousands if not tends of thousands when you start dealing with the wealthy/crazy whales. Or that guy who stole millions from his employer and spent one million dollars on Game of War. 
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Like a lot of record keeper's V content, though, these gil turtles are positively tame compared to the original game. But yeah, if you don't bring drawtaliate you're going to have a bad time.
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Cattail Prophet posted:Like a lot of record keeper's V content, though, these gil turtles are positively tame compared to the original game. But yeah, if you don't bring drawtaliate you're going to have a bad time.  I don't know why I didn't even think of Drawtaliate. I feel so dumb.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Gil Turtle's counter is dumb garbage that doesn't care if you own 3 pairs of Cloud's goggles but gently caress him I still beat it eventually with some S/L and because Lifesiphon/SBs can't miss. In hindsight tauntaliate probably shuts down his counters entirely. Do you have a link for that last part? That sounds like a good read.
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drat, I didn't think of Drawtaliate for the Gil Turtles either. Oh well, my strategy of Faris breaking it down and stacking Protectga/Trueblade of Legend worked fine. Especially since you get two free turns to heal up at the start of every battle as long as you don't attack it, and since SBs can't be countered.
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Face it, if you had lunar whale amounts of money, you'd be spending thousands on every banner too.
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Adel posted:Face it, if you had lunar whale amounts of money, you'd be spending thousands on every banner too. If I had lunar whale amounts of money I wouldn't be wasting time playing a game on my phone. I'd be wasting time drinking martini's on my yacht.
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flowinprose posted:If I had lunar whale amounts of money I wouldn't be wasting time playing a game on my phone. I'd be wasting time drinking martini's on my yacht. There's always downtime
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Edly posted:Do you have a link for that last part? That sounds like a good read. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/california-man-spent-1-million-playing-game-of-war/
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flowinprose posted:If I had lunar whale amounts of money I wouldn't be wasting time playing a game on my phone. I'd be wasting time drinking martini's on my yacht. Rich people poop, too.
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Dec 22, 2016 08:39
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OK so Maria doing 20K per Break cast on an Imperil Earth's Bahamut was hilarious. First time I've used her in major content since I drew her BSB.
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Dr Pepper posted:OK so Maria doing 20K per Break cast on an Imperil Earth's Bahamut was hilarious. The best part is when you've got all the buffs and she's getting six hits. It's a beautiful thing, especially in Multiplayer.
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KataraniSword posted:The best part is when you've got all the buffs and she's getting six hits. It's a beautiful thing, especially in Multiplayer. I'm anticipating a team of Maria/Papalymo/Edeas in MP once we get to that point.
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Man people weren't kidding about taking the Gil turtle things seriously. I was still RM hunting and wiped.
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ParliamentOfDogs posted:Man people weren't kidding about taking the Gil turtle things seriously. I was still RM hunting and wiped. The difference is, in FFRK they're actually beatable by a party that isn't absolutely minmaxed. In FF5, they were basically a penalty for your greed with the name of "party wipe" 
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flowinprose posted:If I had lunar whale amounts of money I wouldn't be wasting time playing a game on my phone. I'd be wasting time drinking martini's on my yacht. I know incredibly rich people who play phone games when they're at work and don't feel like working
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KnoxZone posted:IIRC Sapphire MVP tier is like $10k or so? Some people will happily drop hundreds of dollars on every banner. What the hell I thought I would be up there for like, shamefully doing an 11 pull a couple of times and a bunch of the 100 gem pulls. I wish I could see how much I spent in total though, I'm sure it's way more than buying actual FF Games
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:What the hell If you go through google play, you can! Whether or not you want to is another story...
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I've read articles about whales. Studies have shown they're almost never rich unfortunately. Mostly people on fixed income that absolutely should not be whaling
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That makes sense to me, the sunk cost fallacy combined with the desire to feel like they've won at something, even a silly phone game, seems like it'd be pretty dangerous.
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It's functionally the same as gambling and casinos make an enormous amount of money on poor or middle income people who go there and blow a couple hundred bucks and then leave. Mobile games are debatably more dangerous because you can gamble any time you want as many times as you can afford on a phone game gacha without having to haul your rear end to a legal casino.
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So I started back at the end of November, and slowly powering up. Looking forward to orbfest, and got enough mythril for 4 rolls coming up (planning on 2 on osb banner 1 and 2 on ff xiv). Managed to get galuf's gauntlet and bartz's cape + excalibur off 1 11 pull too. Got some of the 4* breaks, and life siphon. Its fun seeing a team slowly forming. If I get on discord sometime, is it possible to get goons to carry my rear end through some of the multi for the rewards?
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Kanos posted:It's functionally the same as gambling and casinos make an enormous amount of money on poor or middle income people who go there and blow a couple hundred bucks and then leave. Mobile games are debatably more dangerous because you can gamble any time you want as many times as you can afford on a phone game gacha without having to haul your rear end to a legal casino. Sort of, but one of the things I've been discussing with therapists/people in general is that there's a secondary risk factor involving flow states, with the gaming/gambling model. Generally speaking, flow states=getting in the zone, etc., produce huge amounts of feel-good chemicals and involve any time you feel both highly skilled and what you are doing is highly challenging. Thing is(and this is key), you have to have a perception of being able to accomplish what you're doing to generate flow. And addiction, generally, is about getting a big, inordinate rush from anything+predisposition factors-super simply, that's how the disease model works. Gaming goes for what I'm seeing as "artificial" flow states-fooling people into thinking they're accomplishing something skillful through various means-in a lot of weird ways, and mobile does it the most skeevy way of all, by making you shell out. You've literally sacrificed for your win. It's a little disturbing, put that way. (So sue me, I just got off a Peer Support Specialist training. I'm into this stuff.) The solution is to just support games that aren't too horrible about it. RK is pretty nice and paying to win is fairly hard-you still need your brain, or at least some strategies you've ripped off of Reddit.
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I'm torn on the Celerity Nightmare. Choosing to pull here would not impact OSBFest, XIV-1, XIII-2, or Tactics planning, but would put a dent in the nest egg reserved for 2nd Anniversary banners. It's a tough choice between hoping to add coverage on more characters and realms, versus saving for pulls on gear I'd use for Diff 200+ bosses. Pros: 7/9 OSB/BSB are for characters for whom I have only default SBs. 10/16 SSB are for characters for whom I have only default SBs 2 BSB and 2 SSB would be upgrades over current SSB/SBs 14/25 relics are for realms in which I have poor physical RS (II, IV, VII, X, XII, XIV) A strong Thief relic would give reason to create Mug Bloodlust Cons: Full-Price Power Creep is Getting Steep (Torment, etc) 4 Dupes (albeit 2 would be useful dupes due to weak RS) Would appreciate an outside perspective!
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kalensc posted:I'm torn on the Celerity Nightmare. Choosing to pull here would not impact OSBFest, XIV-1, XIII-2, or Tactics planning, but would put a dent in the nest egg reserved for 2nd Anniversary banners. It's a tough choice between hoping to add coverage on more characters and realms, versus saving for pulls on gear I'd use for Diff 200+ bosses. It's a 100% chance at at least a ssb, with very few characters to get hosed by. Also with very decent offensive and debuffing ssb's, with very nice bsb's inluded. It's worth a pull. I got 2 stacking debuff ssb's for a couple thieves, and shadow's bsb. Theives are gonna get really drat good soon. Wind bite and the poison version will be very nice elemental attacks, as well as do nutty damage with a dagger.
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kalensc posted:I'm torn on the Celerity Nightmare. Choosing to pull here would not impact OSBFest, XIV-1, XIII-2, or Tactics planning, but would put a dent in the nest egg reserved for 2nd Anniversary banners. It's a tough choice between hoping to add coverage on more characters and realms, versus saving for pulls on gear I'd use for Diff 200+ bosses. Pull once and call it a day. The potential for good OSBs is strong. I might hold off if there is a better OSBfest banner, but that is your call.
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ETB posted:Pull once and call it a day. The potential for good OSBs is strong. I might hold off if there is a better OSBfest banner, but that is your call. The OSB Fest banners are a tough call when I consider my needs/wants and existing relics: B1 - 4 great items, 2 very good, 1 ok, and 2 dupes (Tiara, Thyrus) B2 - 5 great items, 3 very good, and 1 dupe (SG) B3 - 5 great items, 4 very good B4 - 2 great items, 2 very good, 4 ok, and 1 dupe (Ninurta) B5 - 1 great item, 3 very good, 4 ok, and 1 dupe (Onion Gauntlets) Right now I'm leaning towards 1 pull on B1 and B2, and up to 2 pulls on B3. So yeah, if I pull on the Celerity Lucky it will just be one 11x, and then cross my fingers at least 1 of the non-dupes.
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