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alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

It seems like the dev team lacks consumer trust, and I think I know how to fix that: testimonials! Here's mine:

"hi im an astronaut and i can say with utmost professional confidence that this thermador gas cooktop is out of this world !!" - forums user alarumklok

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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Hi I'm Commander Shepard and Thermador is my favorite game in crowd funding.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


i'm johnny knoxville and this is THERMIDOR

Schurik
Sep 13, 2008


No, I'M Thermidor

But Not Tonight
May 22, 2006

I could show you around the sights.

NAY, I AM THERMIDOR

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
As Satan, Prince of Lies and outsourcing specialist, I can assure you the programming techniques and overall gameplay of Thermador will blow your mind! I guarantee it, because I always fulfill my side of the contract.

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

Thermidor jeu de merde à la poubelle ma couille

Shifty gimbal
Dec 28, 2008

Hey you... I got something to tell ya
Biscuit Hider
Everybody's so restless because of the lack of juicy screenies! Save your thread, Thermidudes!

DropsySufferer
Nov 9, 2008

Impractical practicality
I have one question for mr hyperdevbox guy: Is your goal (please only select 1 or 2 but not both)

1. To make money and run a business

2. To make the game of my dreams! :sparkles:

I'm going to suspect your goal all along has been #2 and there hasn't much thought put into 1#.

Realize you can't have #2 without #1. You are failing spectacularly at #1. This is objectively true. The only solution you have to make your dreamgame is to pay the 250K yourself because no one else wants it.

My proof is:

$717 USD raised by 19 backers
0% of $240,000
fixed goal

Countdown until cognitive dissonance and denials... Well that's already started.

lalaland
Nov 8, 2012
Jfc guys its only been up for a day surely they have strategies to gain momentum for their campaign down the line

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Okay here's your first problem: I started watching your little video about the game and ended up skipping around it for a minute, laughing at the 'cutscene' thing of a bunch of characters appearing very briefly (It literally looks like a game released on the PS1 in 1997 or so, like we're talking Suikoden without any of that game's charm), and then closing it.

Realtalk; I don't give a gently caress. And that's bad. Because I'm the kind of shitbird you should be able to expect to be very interested. I love games from the era you're trying to emulate, I'm into Revolutionary France as an era, I like SRPGs. I'm the platonic loving ideal of your target audience. And you have nothing here that sells me on this game. You have nothing here that says "Wow this game mite b cool, I'll see if I can spare $30 (lol) to back it, it could pan out into something I really enjoy.". Your intro video is not the time to talk about minutiae like taking eight damage or the ruffles on the heroine's dress or whatever the poo poo. That stuff should be in your crowdfunding campaign, but it's for down the line when you're working on the game in earnest and want to maintain interest and buzz among your backer community. Right now you need to be able to put out a short, snappy video that operates on the principle of "show don't tell", and if you can't do that then you're not ready to launch your crowdfunding campaign.

You've raised $717 bucks in a day, from a measly 19 people. And you've been sitting at that for hours. That's so pathetic that you should really pull the campaign down right this instant and take the time to implement a new one. Yes, you're at a disadvantage because you're not a big name studio. Obsidian raised their $1.1 million objective in under 24 hours for Pillars of Eternity, and that's a loving insane amount of money. But people know who Obsidian and Josh Sawyer are; we trust them to know how to make a modern isometric RPG like Baldur's Gate, and a whole lot of fans of New Vegas were willing to pitch in as well. Yooka-Laylee raised £175k (Not far short of your $240k objective) in thirty-eight minutes. Shenmue III hit $2mil in eight god drat hours. And you need to comprehend that you do not have this luxury. Nobody knows you from Adam. We don't have fond memories of your PS1 releases in the 90s. We don't remember your names scrolling by on a Credits roll after finishing something we still emulate today. On the other hand a lot of us have in fact been hungry for good SRPGs because it's been a long drat time since games like Front Mission 3 or Vandal Hearts, and you're still failing to excite or interest any of us.

Figure out your elevator pitch - SRPG set in Revolutionary France, okay, cool, I'm actually down with that in principle - and then figure out how to turn that pitch into an enticing video. What's going to make people share this on FB or link to it in their Discord channels or whatever? Yelling about how we don't understand ~your vision~ doesn't matter a drat bit. Your studio could be the medium's loving Rembrandt but if you can't get us on board without having to clarify and argue on this dead gay forum, let alone anywhere else online, then you've already failed.

e; Also you need to redesign some of your characters. Armandine is fine, but Leandre makes me want to punch him right in the mouth until he needs wooden teeth, and Leonce the Ponce genuinely looks like he eats poo poo.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Dec 24, 2016

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
Isn't IGG usually not a good place for games of that budget anyway? I remember reading that it's incredibly rare for a high ask game to succeed there, I think the only ones that ever reached that range were the LabZero games and they were like working with the IGG staff to promote it, and their second game needed an extension anyway, and this is from a fairly well known studio that has a good reputation and a dedicated fanbase. Like it or not, KS is where the money is, barely anyone looks at IGG so your campaign will barely get any exposure and statistically people spend less money on that site so having a high buy-in won't do you any favors.

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





$240,000 and we don't get guillotines what the hell is this bullshit

the_sea_hag
Oct 9, 2012
LOAF FANCIER

hyperdevbox posted:

Hi,

The art in the game is exactly as previously shown in the screenshots so one is free to like it or not, maybe you were expecting to see MOE type of graphic but we want to bring something more "realistic" in the style, sorry if it does not please you, also keep in mind those are not the final models and we will refine them as the development is progressing . This is not a mock up, video and screenshot are made using the real game engine, of course it is an alpha version of the engine, not totally implemented with all the features yet since we need the funding to do so. If you check the indiegogo crowdfunding campaign, you will see that our estimated date of delivery is December 2017, how far we are so far, we would say, enough to have this technical demo and engine up and running, now we need to add the game content and dialogues out of the story-line. The game is not a full open world, it is a world made of several 3D locations (mostly in Paris, but some in the surroundings), you can picture it as in the style of a Jeanne D'Arc.

Thank you for your warm wish, game development is not something new for us but we agree that it is a hard work to do because of all the platforms, market fragmentation and cost inflation.

Honestly, the character designs look like they were done in about six seconds. This is especially prominent with the older female characters, who look to be the same age as the protagonists.

Also, I hope you come up with a better portrait for the main dude, he has a backslash for a mouth.

Iron Prince
Aug 28, 2005
Buglord

Mister Adequate posted:

I don't give a gently caress

Jedrick
Mar 21, 2010

:420: There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high-powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Smoke weed every day.
:420:
Don't listen to them HyperCube, I love you just the way you are, with or without guillotines! Just aheads up though, it appears that you accidently put an extra zero at the ends of all the numbers on your crowd funding figures, so I gotta hold off on the donation to this is rectified. Can't wait to shoot some French people!

- Jedrick, Unabashed Thermidude

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
I got a feeling that today's the day we get that donor #20!

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

Anticheese posted:

I'm seriously reconsidering picking up the code to my guillotine generator, hooking it up to an image scaler and palate swapper (a JRPG staple!!!) and make an idle game about breeding guillotines. I was able to get the bare bones of it up and running in about 20 minutes, so this should be able to come out before a gameplay demo from hyperdevbox.

I'll pull out my generous donation I gave to Thermidor and hand it all to you if you do this.

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

Hot drat, the crowdfunding's started already. Quick everyone, post fanart! Thermidor needs our help if it's gonna be the next Mighty No. 9!

I'll start with the best character.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



avoraciopoctules posted:

Hot drat, the crowdfunding's started already. Quick everyone, post fanart! Thermidor needs our help if it's gonna be the next Mighty No. 9!

I'll start with the best character.


Let's not get our hopes up too high. Thermidor will be good, but it's unlikely to be "bricks your console" good.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
I suppose our fanart campaign did wonders for the Demon Rush, although that was a finished game with more to go on.

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

hyperdevbox posted:

The battle system is a regular turn base system so player have a certain amount of action point that you can use to do certain action, should it be for moving your character, do an attack, use an item etc...., during the moving phase of your character, you do select by point and click the full path that your character will follow unlike most of jrpgs where only the destination grid-square is important and not the path itself. In thermidor as you will be building your path, our “Dynamic Awareness System” will analyze in realtime the most dangerous grid square, on your path, where you can potentially be seen and interrupted by one or many surrounding enemies based on their faculty to be aware of what is happening in the game field, enemies who will then, based on the resolution formula, initiate, or not, an action break attack on your character as you are moving on your path, the probability to be detected will be displayed to the player as a probability percentage before the validation of the path, so you will be able to try and experiment different scenario. As any other jrpgs, Thermidor will have items, like armors, weapons and others that will of course affect your hit damage, your health, your strength, your speed and also help you to make your enemies "less aware" of your presence. One of the specificity of Thermidor is that weapons (and so skills attached to a weapon) are not dedicated to a character but all characters can develop the ability to use a certain weapon by practicing it, finally, one character after receiving a big hit damage for example, could drop his current weapon in the game field (you will be able also to give your weapon to another member of your party who has more ability with that weapon to do a better accurate attack). While any weapon (or any dropped item) is on the game field, any characters (or enemies) could decide to pick it up and use it, eventually against you. To answer why would you like to use a sword against a gun..well if you have a better experience practicing the sword then you can do greater damage than using a gun but you will need to be closer, also, sword can do multiple hit based on your speed, while gun/riffle will just shoot 1 bullet (but you can shoot from a greater distance), however the greater the distance, the less accurate your shoot will be.
Hope this can bring more details about the unique battle system behind Thermidor ^^

Thanks for answering my questions. Can you post a video or a series of screenshots showing this in action?

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

Mister Adequate posted:

I don't give a gently caress.

Every time I come in here I look around for stray fucks to give, and I cannot find a single one.
I've searched high, then I've searched low, and : Behold: Not even a scrap of a gently caress have I found.

GOTY 2019

George Rouncewell
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.
Thermidor backer t-shirt revealed

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

Palpek posted:

If you get any sort of interactive version of this playable I'll give you a custom platinum icon next to your forums name and a big av of choice.

This goes for anybody who attempts to create a game revolving around playable guillotines. Let's get a guillotine-themed game jam going people!

My lovely RPGmaker hobby is finally going to pay off. :madmax:

Scruffyhawk
Jun 30, 2005

FHNNNNNNN
Ramrod XTreme
Attn Dev Cube - What happens when the Indie GoGo campaign catastrophically fails? Will you keep making the game?

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Scruffyhawk posted:

Attn Dev Cube - What happens when the Indie GoGo campaign catastrophically fails? Will you keep making the game?

I hope they blame us, there hasn't been a good goon blaming in ages

vanisher
Jul 12, 2005

Fun Shoe

Palpek posted:

If you get any sort of interactive version of this playable I'll give you a custom platinum icon next to your forums name and a big av of choice.

This goes for anybody who attempts to create a game revolving around playable guillotines. Let's get a guillotine-themed game jam going people!

Let me get right the heck on this

e: What about a guillotine dating sim, where you are a guillotine and you try to woo a guillotine over the course of a plot (simple dialogue choices result in a total 'love level' at the end, with bonus mating scene if love levels are high enough).

vanisher fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Dec 25, 2016

Grogquock
May 2, 2009
The trick to crowd funding is to work the right crowd. This 2008 article gives winning tips on finding, engaging with, and selling to that market.

http://www.aol.com/article/2008/02/08/oregon-beggars-pull-in-300-per-day/1110192/

As a HUGE bonus it will really help the dev team get into the proper state of mind for a French Revolution game.

Grogquock fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 25, 2016

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

I was actually looking forward to this game's crowdfunding campaign because I liked the idea of revolutionary France JRPG, but this first showing is not inspiring any confidence. I'd need to see a lot more gameplay footage before I'd consider paying into this.

OneTwentySix
Nov 5, 2007

fun
FUN
FUN


Have any of you guys googled "Thermidor JRPG"? There are a handful of brief, poorly received forums threads by Ron, including one which was just a copy-paste from another website (with the other website's name intact), and a handful of press releases that no one ever read. If I'm being extremely generous, maybe 2,000 people have heard of this game through their social outreach, which includes everyone that clicks on the link, sees nothing of interest, and leaves. Which makes their quarter million dollar price point hilarious. This could be the best loving game ever and it still wouldn't reach the goal, since they've done the equivalent of posting fliers around a small town and have received a similar response. How the gently caress did they seriously expect to get funded here?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




OneTwentySix posted:

How the gently caress did they seriously expect to get funded here?

We pay to post here instead of posting on Reddit for free. Clearly we are bad with money. And there are 197,108 of us.

Schurik
Sep 13, 2008


I'm starting to feel kinda bad because it seems these guys genuinely believed that anyone would care. At this point any money that comes their was must feel like a pity gently caress.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's still at " $717 USD raised by 19 backers / 0% of $240,000 fixed goal". :allears:

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Facebook Aunt posted:

We pay to post here instead of posting on Reddit for free. Clearly we are bad with money. And there are 197,108 of us.

poo poo if every goon gave just $2 they would've had a healthy overage!

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Schurik posted:

I'm starting to feel kinda bad because it seems these guys genuinely believed that anyone would care. At this point any money that comes their was must feel like a pity gently caress.

In fairness to pity fucks, a pity gently caress is still a gently caress.

hyperdevbox
Aug 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I would like to wish everyone at SA a Merry Christmas, happy holidays and a happy new year, from Hyperdevbox.

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King Doom
Dec 1, 2004
I am on the Internet.
Oh god. It's gone from funny to having a poor little girl with polio telling you how one day she's going to be a ballerina dancer.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
thank you :3:

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Schurik
Sep 13, 2008


Mister Adequate posted:

In fairness to pity fucks, a pity gently caress is still a gently caress.

Begrudgingly agreed.

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