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Burkion posted:If she ever drops that, if she ever stops being interesting to him, I get the strong feeling she'd be dead or forgotten. I'd imagine though we can't say for certain, that's what keeps him circling Bruce. Bruce also interests him. It'd fit the often weirdly sexual relationship between Batman and the Joker I think she'd come out ahead. Leto's Joker is playing with fire, and he's the one who's protected by her imaginary, worshipful image of him.
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We'll have to see. I think the Joker is the most dangerous one just because he doesn't have any of the humanity Harley does. But it's hard to gauge because of how little he's in this film.
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Burkion posted:We'll have to see. And supposedly we're going to see Harley/Ivy in Gotham Sirens. Oh goody. Either Leto lets go of the role or there's no way the movie doesn't end with Harley jumping back in Joker's arms.
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Cythereal posted:And supposedly we're going to see Harley/Ivy in Gotham Sirens. Oh goody. Either Leto lets go of the role or there's no way the movie doesn't end with Harley jumping back in Joker's arms. I think Affleck's Batman movie using Deathstroke as its villain (because seriously, who the gently caress has ever heard of Deathstroke), as well as WB rapidly backing the gently caress away from every aspect of Suicide Squad that isn't named Margot Robbie, speaks a lot to Leto's future as Joker.
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I think a lot of people were exposed to the lower tier batman villains like Deathstroke through those Arkham games. It's the place I found out about Harley Quinn
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Also Batman has by far the best villain lineup. Not only was that a perfect usage of the Joker but it also means you don't have to reuse The Joker for a Batman movie. You could use literally anyone else.
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Hat Thoughts posted:I think a lot of people were exposed to the lower tier batman villains like Deathstroke through those Arkham games. It's the place I found out about Harley Quinn He was also in the Teen Titans '03 cartoon, but was called by his more family-friendly name Slade.
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Equeen posted:He was also in the Teen Titans '03 cartoon, but was called by his more family-friendly name Slade. That version did some disturbing things and Ron Perlman's voice acting sold it so well
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He was pure strain child molester all the goddamn way
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Someone once described Deathstroke's relationship with Robin in that cartoon to me as "imagine if all the jokes about Batman loving Robin were treated seriously and Robin had run away from home at age 13 to escape the abuse" and my response was "I will not do that, nor will I watch that cartoon"
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Crion posted:Someone once described Deathstroke's relationship with Robin in that cartoon to me as "imagine if all the jokes about Batman loving Robin were treated seriously and Robin had run away from home at age 13 to escape the abuse" and my response was "I will not do that, nor will I watch that cartoon" Wasn't just Robin either. He also was straight up rapey with Raven in all the worst ways. Frankly it's amazing they didn't go with the canon to the comics moment of him literally loving the 13 year old Terra.
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Crion posted:Someone once described Deathstroke's relationship with Robin in that cartoon to me as "imagine if all the jokes about Batman loving Robin were treated seriously and Robin had run away from home at age 13 to escape the abuse" and my response was "I will not do that, nor will I watch that cartoon" people overblow it dramatically, it's still a show for 8 year olds at the end of the day
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Timby posted:I think Affleck's Batman movie using Deathstroke as its villain (because seriously, who the gently caress has ever heard of Deathstroke), as well as WB rapidly backing the gently caress away from every aspect of Suicide Squad that isn't named Margot Robbie, speaks a lot to Leto's future as Joker.
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Deathstroke was a main villain in Arrow. And if the movies are anything like the comics, Harley is going to be increasingly independent from The Joker.
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It's all too bad because Leto's Joker was probably the single best thing about Suicide Squad. Granted, he couldn't have been showcased nearly half as well given what was there without showing his and Harley's relationship.
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My inclination would be for the Joker's version of Harley's idolization of him to be the facade of seeing her as ultimately disposable, to play at denying the power she has over him and the possibility that he might actually need her. Just like the Joker will never be a normal breadwinning husband, Harley will never be just someone you can use and throw away. And for the same reason: they're both brilliant, unstable maniacs. Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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Burkion posted:If she ever drops that, if she ever stops being interesting to him, I get the strong feeling she'd be dead or forgotten. I'd imagine though we can't say for certain, that's what keeps him circling Bruce. Bruce also interests him. It'd fit the often weirdly sexual relationship between Batman and the Joker Arkham Origins has the best 10 minutes of Joker falling in love with Batman. Whole game plays out like a beat em up love story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQrVKNvqqI&t=420s
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Joker discovering there's someone just as insane as him is the most wonderful part of Origins.
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Burkion posted:I like the idea of Leto's Joker and I like what he was able to do with it, he just wasn't given much time to do it or proper direction. The Joker posted:Desire becomes surrender, surrender becomes power. Do you want this? Enchantress posted:Why are you here? Because the soldier led you. And all for Waller. Why do you serve those who cage you? I am your ally, and I know what you want. Exactly what you want. KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AMiwKhm3uI Did, did Archie and Jughead loving murdered a dude?
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AMiwKhm3uI I keep seeing people freakin' out about this, but, isn't this where the comics have been for quite awhile? At the very least it's always been a goofy rear end soap opera. That Josie and the Pussycats though. 
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wyoming posted:I keep seeing people freakin' out about this, but, isn't this where the comics have been for quite awhile? I wouldn't say "quite a while" all the rebooting stuff has been pretty recent, although definitely they've done spin offs that leaned in the direction. This is pretty distinct from classic Archie.
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MacheteZombie posted:Tween Peaks looking interesting I'm definitely using this from now on.
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Cute https://www.instagram.com/p/BOc6cm-jYpV/
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You know, it's really easy to forget how fuckin gigantic The Rock is.
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This ruled. The Rock is in it. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I'm definitely using this from now on. Thanks wasn't sure how cringy it was haha.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:You know, it's really easy to forget how fuckin gigantic The Rock is. Partly because he gets more gigantic! Pain & Gain Rock looks like he could eat wrestler Rock.
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Timby posted:I think Affleck's Batman movie using Deathstroke as its villain (because seriously, who the gently caress has ever heard of Deathstroke), as well as WB rapidly backing the gently caress away from every aspect of Suicide Squad that isn't named Margot Robbie, speaks a lot to Leto's future as Joker. If you are young enough to have watched this cartoon in 2003-06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaWvQuIVMI You know who Deathstroke is, and you've probably been bitching that he hasn't been on TV for the last eight years  Burkion posted:Wasn't just Robin either. I don't know why I'm touching this but Terra's age was stated to be 16. Still gross and wrong, obviously! The early 80s were kind of a more different time than you might think. Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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What was it that was gross and wrong
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The cartoon was young. Deathstroke is Slade Wilson, yeah? He was AWESOME in the otherwise general tween dumpsterfire that was WBs Green Arrow.
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Drifter posted:Deathstroke is Slade Wilson, yeah? He was AWESOME in the otherwise general tween dumpsterfire that was WBs Green Arrow. Yeah, Slade Wilson, KNOWN IN THE UNDERWORLD AS DEATHSTROKE COLON THE TERMINATOR (created three years before the Jim Cameron movie, also). He's the best in the 'biz, but what they don't know is he's a 'merc with a Code of Honor! Slade was actually created to be an anti-hero at least partly in response to the rising popularity of Wolverine over at Marvel. He was an antagonist, but he was (supposed to be) somewhat admirable. He's a former supersoldier (though we don't know that at first) who knows ALL the martial arts and has bases and resources all over the world, a faithful omnicompetent butler AND a healing factor PLUS super-brain so he literally thinks faster than you and basically he is a Garth Mehrengi character put to ink. Literally the start of his beef with the Titans is Slade's idiot son wants to be like his old dad, makes his own costume and goes on the black market as The  Yes that's Slade in the b/g with the pirate boots Not only did this bozo not kill a single Titan, he literally dies by tripping over his own feet and falling into a gearbox or some poo poo. Slade Wilson acknowledges that his son was basically an idiot and that he has no real reason to dedicate the next several years of his life to killing the Titans at all costs buuuuut you see, CODE OF THE WARRIOR SOMETHING SOMETHING HONOR SOMETHING SOMETHING THE CONTRACT WILL BE FULFILLED And this was the beginning of one of Detective Comics' classic anti-villains! It was a long winding path for Slade to become the iconic character he is today and achieve his ultimate destiny of being ripped off by Deadpool 
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Zzulu posted:What was it that was gross and wrong Underaged girl loving a dude in his 40s. At least. Might have been older
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:And this was the beginning of one of Detective Comics' classic anti-villains! It was a long winding path for Slade to become the iconic character he is today and achieve his ultimate destiny of being ripped off by Deadpool Probably my least favorite character in Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe
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In fairness to The New Teen Titans a lot of this stuff stands out because the books basically went, between 1980 and 1985, from being written for kids to (what the creators supposed was) a more "mature" audience (of teenagers who were like, so done with that kids' stuff maaaan). Like, the stuff about Slade being this ultra-cool Mac Bolan dude who goes on Safari in Africa and does karate classes in Japan between killing dictators and oil sheikhs for money is there when they're writing the comic as more of a kids' fantasy. Later on they do some stuff like: Slade thinks of himself as this globetrotting rogue-with-a-heart-of-gold who lives by a Code of Honor but he's really a rotten bastard who lost his family by being a huge dickwad. Of course later than that Slade basically goes full good-guy and the Titans just partner up with him and Nightwing's like "beneath it all.... he's a man of honor! (tm)" and he literally becomes like this fatherly mentor and it's... look, Late 80s New Titans had a lot of problems okay? Also let's be clear this is what Slade looks like under the goofy mask:  Yes Slade relaxes by the pool in his armor because A TRUE WARRIOR IS ALWAYS PREPARED So yeah the most charitable interpretation of showing him in bed with Terra is it's a skeevy fantasy of middle-aged Sean Connery magnetism or w/e. Just one more way Slade is Supposed To Be the Coolest Guy in the Room, Always. You could get away with a lot more of this kind of poo poo in that era than today (like, the Bond movies being Exhibit A) but in defense of early 80s comics readers that poo poo got called out immediately. In the letters page and the Comics Journal (which was basically the CBR dot com of pre-internet times) the writer Marv Wolfman apologized for it repeatedly. Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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Hat Thoughts posted:Probably my least favorite character in Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe He's even worse in Injustice.
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Jericho would never do such a thing! Well I mean yeah he did kind of pull a heel turn (eventually) but that was long after Wolfman was down to his last good idea. e: "Who is Jericho?" you might ask. He was the ultra-hot new addition to the Teen Titans who was so important his big costume debut actually took place on the same page as Dick Greyson's new Nightwing persona.  "Thanks for making the moment you thunder-stealin' little poo poo" Dick said. He's got a mutant power (there is no other explanation, sometimes DC just straight up rips off mutants as a thing from Marvel) that allows him to enter and possess the body of anyone he makes eye contact with, and his gimmick is he can't talk because of a vocal chord injury because Slade is a lovely, lovely parent. He is also super sensitive and artistic and not like those macho jerks and all the ladies pretty much swoon over him and seriously how did this guy not make the A-list for the 2003 cartoon? Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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Hat Thoughts posted:Probably my least favorite character in Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe The fight with him in Arkham: Origins was great.
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Newspaper movie critics are starting to post their best/worst of 2016 lists, here's one who ranks BvS as the "biggest dud of the year". 
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