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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Atlas Hugged posted:

That or it's more or less fictional and they intentionally wrote the article with metric knowing fat lazy westerners wouldn't bother converting it, but would see a large number and assume that while it's probably not that big, it's likely impressive.

Yeah, that has to be it. You can look at the doorway and corner windows and see that the wall obviously isn't 8 feet thick. From the doorway even 25cm thick seems unlikely.

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

oohhboy posted:

Pretty sure that is not how you earth quake proof a building. Something that stiff would effectively shatter internally. the rebar would keep it standing as the house is low to the ground but now the whole thing is condemned. If they wanted a nuclear bunker though that is a start.

I don't see any evidence that the concrete is reinforced. I've seen videos of printed buildings and they've been only concrete. Also they had large cavities in the walls that would either become one giant wasps nest in a warm climate or freeze fracture in a cold climate.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The extra dumb thing is that using mould and pour would have been cheaper, faster and have a better external look with a better surface to put cladding on.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bip Roberts posted:

I don't see any evidence that the concrete is reinforced. I've seen videos of printed buildings and they've been only concrete. Also they had large cavities in the walls that would either become one giant wasps nest in a warm climate or freeze fracture in a cold climate.

LOL, if it isn't reinforced. It would collapse like a mud hut or that city of substandard building that killed a poo poo load of people in China a couple of years ago.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Atlas Hugged posted:

That or it's more or less fictional and they intentionally wrote the article with metric knowing fat lazy westerners wouldn't bother converting it, but would see a large number and assume that while it's probably not that big, it's likely impressive.

The only fat lazy westerners who can't understand metric are the fattest and laziest of westerners. Unless you're talking about Burma?

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
20 tons of concrete would only make a 250cm wall about 130cm high and wide, so it must be a typo and my dream of a chinese medieval castle is shattered :(

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
This is what I was thinking of AKA ultimate wasps nest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5Elbvvr1M

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Outrail posted:

The only fat lazy westerners who can't understand metric are the fattest and laziest of westerners. Unless you're talking about Burma?

Surely you've heard of the United States of America.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Atlas Hugged posted:

That or it's more or less fictional and they intentionally wrote the article with metric knowing fat lazy westerners wouldn't bother converting it, but would see a large number and assume that while it's probably not that big, it's likely impressive.

Most of the West uses metric but cm seems like kind of an odd unit to use in this context

e: I guess it makes sense if it's supposed to be 25

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Dec 27, 2016

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Phlegmish posted:

Most of the West uses metric but cm seems like kind of an odd unit to use in this context

I meant the part of the West that this would have been targeted at. 美國第一名

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Atlas Hugged posted:

That or it's more or less fictional and they intentionally wrote the article with metric knowing fat lazy westerners wouldn't bother converting it, but would see a large number and assume that while it's probably not that big, it's likely impressive.
We're talking about China here. Why would they ever fictionali

Speaking of Earthquake houses, what do you y'all think about this:
http://www.i-domehouse.com/characters.html

quote:

The Dome House can be built by assembling Dome Pieces. Each Dome Piece weighs only 80kg. Since assembly is quite simple, if performed by 3 or 4 people, it takes approximately 7 days to complete a Dome House.



Where have I seen that before...

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Atlas Hugged posted:

Surely you've heard of the United States of America.

What? The USA uses imperial? Feet and inches? Ounces and poo poo as well? Lol what the gently caress I thought they were a first world country. Oh man how backwards.

:thejoke:

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


unless you graduated in the 80s or something, metric is what's actually taught in schools. Conversions are among the first real science concepts I learned, for all the use it was for me since by the time I arrived in physics if you didn't have a grasp of metric the science department would line up and smack the poo poo out of you one by one.

Also, drugs are sold in metric, rx's are prescribed in metric. Everyone knows metric more than they realize, on top of standard/imperial.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

nickmeister posted:

I think there is a good chance that many of the wumao in those comments sections are ethnic chinese who think they need to shill for the ccp in order to assert their identity.

I previously posted about the majority of the elite Chinese establishment shilling for the status quo. They are mostly apolitical and flock to whatever government of the day to maintain their position as top dogs of society. Literally boot lickers and shoe shiners for preferred government treatment. And their children will see nothing wrong the system as well because the system gave them enormous power wealth and opportunity.

Attacking the system is attacking their legitimacy of wealth and they will get really defensive about it. Even if they get to live or work overseas if the opportunity in china is bigger they will relocate back home. For some industries it's way better to be in China.

But then again a lot of the opt out of the Chinese rat race and are content settling overseas. When I say settling I truly mean settling in mundane suburbia. A nice house, clean air, going to Costco and cook delicious home meals, being frugal and earning foreign currency, and an occasional trip to china/Asia/Europe. Oh and it's a lot easier to tune out of politics.

Which sounds pretty awesome when you also get to escape the communist bureaucratic bullshit. Nerds and engineers tend to gravitate to settling because they can live a more comfortable solitary life without additional bullshit.

Whereas bankers, lawyers, and accountants would rather try to strike out rich in china if they don't get promoted partner. If push comes to shove they can sleaze it up to get the job done.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
As for ethnic Chinese shilling for the CCP because of AZN PRIDE. I met a few growing up but I never could become friends with them for long. I can't say this applies to every case of course.

You see it in a lot of younger first or second generation asians who are conflicted about their identity/heritage and got sucked into gang race wars during high school. Or a bad reaction against mainstream white culture. Funny enough they get along with rednecky conservatives pretty well and share similar hobbies.

As for the older dudes like Rene Chang or whoever grew up in the states without much exposure to china, they believe their time has finally come! After all the years of racism and crap they endured people will finally recognize them as equals in society.

Unfortunately I think the answer is not really. But not because china is strong/not strong, but because they grew up in a broken racist environment as a minority - that baggage is going nowhere and just amplified by the internet

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Someone please help me I have trouble sleeping

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

caberham posted:

As for ethnic Chinese shilling for the CCP because of AZN PRIDE. I met a few growing up but I never could become friends with them for long. I can't say this applies to every case of course.

You see it in a lot of younger first or second generation asians who are conflicted about their identity/heritage and got sucked into gang race wars during high school. Or a bad reaction against mainstream white culture. Funny enough they get along with rednecky conservatives pretty well and share similar hobbies.

As for the older dudes like Rene Chang or whoever grew up in the states without much exposure to china, they believe their time has finally come! After all the years of racism and crap they endured people will finally recognize them as equals in society.

Unfortunately I think the answer is not really. But not because china is strong/not strong, but because they grew up in a broken racist environment as a minority - that baggage is going nowhere and just amplified by the internet

I've posted before that I really find this type of stuff fascinating and I really appreciate you posting this, cabe.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

caberham posted:

Someone please help me I have trouble sleeping

Have you tried TCM?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Yeah it's called 出火 and it's not working . reading this post makes me want to close my eyes and turn off the phone.

So thanks and see you in the morning :waycool:

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

carbon monoxide really helps people fall asleep

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Facebook Aunt posted:

Uh, are you sure that wasn't 25cm? At 250cm they'd be more than 8 feet thick. That would make installing windows really awkward.

<Gets on a stool and climbs onto window ledge, crawls forwards 6' to open window>

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Blistex posted:

<Gets on a stool and climbs onto window ledge, crawls forwards 6' to open window>

as if the windows would not be permanently open for healthy

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbBKPqOh6DU

reminder that this is a Thing that was actually produced

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I had trouble being accepted in school, but looking back that had way more to do with mental illness than Racism. What is racist is the subtle things you can't/hard to measure like your CV being skipped over because of your name, having people talk behind your back for being Asian, people not engaging with you because they don't like your race, given a different contract/prices/pay.

Overt racism is quite rare. I have been called a chink a couple of times in public, but there were years gaps between them and it was amusing and perplexed as to how weird it was. I have buttons that can be pushed, but random racist insults isn't one of them. That is not saying I wasn't concerned at all but if people start displaying burning crosses that is another level altogether even if it wasn't directed at me.

However, feel free to bash the poo poo out of China/CCP/Lackys all you want, those guys can gently caress themselves.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

oohhboy posted:

I had trouble being accepted in school, but looking back that had way more to do with mental illness than Racism. What is racist is the subtle things you can't/hard to measure like your CV being skipped over because of your name, having people talk behind your back for being Asian, people not engaging with you because they don't like your race, given a different contract/prices/pay.

Overt racism is quite rare. I have been called a chink a couple of times in public, but there were years gaps between them and it was amusing and perplexed as to how weird it was. I have buttons that can be pushed, but random racist insults isn't one of them. That is not saying I wasn't concerned at all but if people start displaying burning crosses that is another level altogether even if it wasn't directed at me.

However, feel free to bash the poo poo out of China/CCP/Lackys all you want, those guys can gently caress themselves.

My god-daughters are both adopted from China and are living in rural Northern Ontario (not that there are many Urban options here). I often worry about the hicks that they will run into as they grow up, and hope that they don't have to deal with much racism. I think that guys get it more than girls when it comes to overt racism, but the girls that they will be going to school with are merciless (I'm a teacher so I have some insight into this) and they like to exploit any perceived weakness they can find. My wife and I recently found out that we are going to be having a little "hybrid" of our own ("oh! mixed baby, so cute") and I really hope it turns out to be a girl, as there is this perception (not sure how true it is) that mixed Asian boys seem to have a bad track record with fitting in.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
New Zealand isn't overtly racist like it is in the US and I think Canada is closer to NZ in that respect. There is anger naturally from Chinese buyers driving up property prices which has elements of truth to it as all that money coming in from overseas has to go somewhere.

However Maori(Our indigenous people) still suffer like other aboriginals whether it is in America, Canada, Australia. They are disproportionally poorer and income inequality is making it increasingly worse quickly above other economic pressures.

Girls tend to work out better as there are more "Valid" combinations of features that make one attractive or more able to fit in. A girl would look more exotic rather than weird. Similar in the way a nerdy girl is far more attractive than a nerdy guy even if they have the same attractiveness physically.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I'm white so obviously my perspective on this is limited but I noticed Asians often get treated as being "the good" minorities at least in cities. Like if I had to choose which visible minority I had to be I would take Asian.

From what I can gather it's been like this for a while and is one reason why everyone seems to buy into the "China ascending to take its rightful place among the world's great powers" narrative, something something White People Of The East, something something Orientalism

I haven't heard of much hate crime aimed at asians vs black people, aboriginals, hispanics, and arabs although "fuckin Chinese" does seem to becoming more and more prevalent.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I'm not about to claim that Asian people are effectively white in North America but white people like me consider them to be.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
:whitewater:

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Sheep-Goats posted:

I'm not about to claim that Asian people are effectively white in North America but white people like me consider them to be.

that's a ban

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

caberham posted:

I previously posted about the majority of the elite Chinese establishment shilling for the status quo.

caberham posted:

As for ethnic Chinese shilling for the CCP because of AZN PRIDE.
These are cool posts, thanks.

Fojar38 posted:

I'm white so obviously my perspective on this is limited but I noticed Asians often get treated as being "the good" minorities at least in cities.
As someone from Hawaii: DO NOT LIVE NEAR FILIPINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are sweet, friendly, warm people because.... I don't know why, but they are great. Their major flaw is that many have karaoke machines and many nights, especially on the weekends, they take those things outside to the porch or garage and serenade the entire neighborhood. If you go to a neighborhood with mostly Filipinos, it's almost like a competition from each house as to who can karaoke the loudest and longest from their driveways.

This is the kind of thing that made me scared to live in the Philippines. I couldn't imagine paying $200 a month to rent a nice apartment and have to listen to manong singing downstairs at 2am.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Ironically the only real outright racism against Asians I have witnessed was when I was teaching in a First Nations school. Kids who have had no exposure to Asians were saying really hateful stuff (they are smelly and sneaky), and during a school assembly one of the Elders was talking about how the "chinamen" were greedy (have no idea how he stumbled on to that topic), and the Principal and Teachers were visibly nervous. Another elder had a sharing circle in my classroom and asked the students, "do you know why Asians and Jews are successful and not Native Peoples?" The kids sat silent, and then he chimed in with, "because we're honest".

Me: :stare: . . . "ooooookay! I would like to thank Elder Peltier for sharing his knowledge with the class. Miigwetch!"


Fojar38 posted:

I'm white so obviously my perspective on this is limited but I noticed Asians often get treated as being "the good" minorities at least in cities. Like if I had to choose which visible minority I had to be I would take Asian.

I'm wondering if it is because they are seen (in public opinion) as being successful and not involved in crime. I'm likely going to be moving to Alberta, so I'm hoping the redneck stereotype doesn't extend to outright racism. The worst my wife has gotten in Ontario is a few goony guys hitting on her with the opening line, "I really like Asian women", and one teen shouting, "me love you long time". (drat you Stanley Kubrick)

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Haier posted:

These are cool posts, thanks.

As someone from Hawaii: DO NOT LIVE NEAR FILIPINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are sweet, friendly, warm people because.... I don't know why, but they are great. Their major flaw is that many have karaoke machines and many nights, especially on the weekends, they take those things outside to the porch or garage and serenade the entire neighborhood. If you go to a neighborhood with mostly Filipinos, it's almost like a competition from each house as to who can karaoke the loudest and longest from their driveways.

This is the kind of thing that made me scared to live in the Philippines. I couldn't imagine paying $200 a month to rent a nice apartment and have to listen to manong singing downstairs at 2am.

That's probably more the Spanish blood than the Asian blood tbqh

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

oohhboy posted:

New Zealand isn't overtly racist like it is in the US and I think Canada is closer to NZ in that respect.

I've met enough racists Kiwis to know this is bullshit. NZ had a white immigration policy just like Australia and it shows in demographics today. It's harder to spot racism when the minority population is smaller. I grew up in Montana and I never heard anyone say a racist comment about or towards black people in my years of living there. Does that mean Montanans aren't overtly racist like people in the south? No, it just means there's no black people to be racist towards.

Canada is also crazy racist and not all that different than the US. Blistex highlighted rural Ontario for a reason. Canadians also have a habit of whitewashing their history when talking to Americans so as to maintain their inferiority complex. They do the same when discussing gun laws, health care, the metric system, education, immigration policy, idiotic heads of state, and lovely coffee chains.

The UK and the US are the only anglophone countries that make entertainment products documenting their racist history and sell them to the rest of the world. As such, people have the impression that both countries are plagued by racism to an exceptional degree.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Fojar38 posted:

I'm white so obviously my perspective on this is limited but I noticed Asians often get treated as being "the good" minorities at least in cities. Like if I had to choose which visible minority I had to be I would take Asian.

From what I can gather it's been like this for a while and is one reason why everyone seems to buy into the "China ascending to take its rightful place among the world's great powers" narrative, something something White People Of The East, something something Orientalism

I haven't heard of much hate crime aimed at asians vs black people, aboriginals, hispanics, and arabs although "fuckin Chinese" does seem to becoming more and more prevalent.

That's probably because no one is worried about the Asian men taking all the white women.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Let us English posted:

The UK and the US are the only anglophone countries that make entertainment products documenting their racist history and sell them to the rest of the world. As such, people have the impression that both countries are plagued by racism to an exceptional degree.

LOL if you think Canada has the money to make movies, let alone ones that are fit for export.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Blistex posted:

LOL if you think Canada has the money to make movies, let alone ones that are fit for export.

We have heritage minutes that document some racist poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE3ISzalVuo

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Fojar38 posted:


I haven't heard of much hate crime aimed at asians vs black people, aboriginals, hispanics, and arabs although "fuckin Chinese" does seem to becoming more and more prevalent.

This is brought up whenever I tell Chinese people about the poo poo black people have to go through in the states. In class last week this topic came up briefly when I told the class that American police are basically gangsters. "... yes, and black people attack Asians!"

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of telling your Chinese students that American police are "basically gangsters" and comparing them negatively to China, which is a literal police state.

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mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Fojar38 posted:

I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of telling your Chinese students that American police are "basically gangsters" and comparing them negatively to China, which is a literal police state.

I'm in Taiwan. And I'M the student. But I don't compare American police "negatively" to China. I merely tell it like it is. Actually, I think a lot of Chinese can understand what it's like to have thugs with government authority loving with your life.

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