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teagone posted:She was great in Winter's Bone, but it seems like she's phoning everything in after having met and worked with David O'Russell. Or maybe it was the Hunger Games movies that demoralized her or something. Having been dragged to all four HG films, she clearly did not want to be there after the second one. Same for her X-Men role.
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twistedmentat posted:She's also really gorgeous, but there's lots of actors just as good looking who are more talented. It is crazy how she's like 25 and gets cast in roles that are clearly meant for older women. Like how many widows has she played? It's a thing that if you're a woman over 30 you're "too old" for p much every part unless it calls for an elderly woman in Hollywood
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I thought Samuel L. Jackson was okay in Black Snake Moan, but I haven't seen it since it came out, and I don't remember much beyond the brief scene in the dress shop, Justin Timberlake being way better than I expected, and the soundtrack. He sure as poo poo doesn't need to be doing Capital One commercials.
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Rhyno posted:Having been dragged to all four HG films, she clearly did not want to be there after the second one. Same for her X-Men role. COnsequently that was the last (and only) Hunger Games movie I enjoyed. My favorite Sam Jackson movie is The Negotiator. Him and Spacey play off each other so well, even though both are pretty much doing their stock personality.
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To me, this has always been peak Sam Jackson How the gently caress did he not win an Oscar for that?
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Because Brain Cox had the best line in the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLyQq_-WbXQ
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Rhyno posted:Jennifer Lawrence is vastly overrated. She's a bit of a clueless jerk and says/does a lot of dumb poo poo. It's kinda weird that she gets away with being such a grating person when she seems like such a replaceable person in Hollywood.
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Something like 40% of America has a huge crush on her so she's not going away.
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Wheat Loaf posted:O'Toole's problem was that his best performance, which set the standard he was always held to afterwards (Lawrence of Arabia), was the first one he was nominated for in a year he was up against Gregory Peck, who a) had been nominated and lost already, so it was thus his "turn"; and b) was up for Best Actor for To Kill a Mockingbird. The problem with that line of thinking (and you are almost certainly right that the Oscar's aren't so much about individual merit as some crazy combination or Merit, it being the type of role that Hollywood approves of and politics where people get turns....) is that's fine for one year... But O'Toole was nominated seven times. Maybe none of those performances were as good as Lawrence of Arabia, but he put in a lot of amazing performance. And if Peck who due a turn, why didn't O'Toole deserve a turn? I think the best story
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The Question IRL posted:But O'Toole was nominated seven times. Maybe none of those performances were as good as Lawrence of Arabia, but he put in a lot of amazing performance. And if Peck who due a turn, why didn't O'Toole deserve a turn? Basically there are more talented actors than there are Oscars available.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The people that beat him include Marlon Brando for The Godfather, John Wayne for True Grit, Rex Harrison for My Fair Lady, Ben Kingsley for Gandhi, and Robert De Niro for Raging Bull. But he lost out to people like Cliff Robertston for Charley (in 1969, when O'Toole was playing King Henry in "The Lion in Winter" which is a phenomenal film.) and Forest Whitikar in 2007. (And while Venus wasn't O'Toole's best film, if you go with the argument of an actor deserving a win eventually, this was when O'Toole should have gotten it.) As far as I see it, it's not always acting talent that dictates who wins the Oscar. Back on topic, in this article they mention that Anne Hathaway would like to take back up the role of Catwoman. http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1599870/david-ayer-reveals-the-dc-villains-wholl-join-harley-quinn-in-gotham-city-sirens Frankly that would be one thing that would make me gladly sit through a Gotham Sirens film.
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Jurge, Bread, Mitt - those are names. Like, real names. Lernernerner DiCapricorn, that's a name. Samuel L Jackson? Not a name.
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They've announced that Ryan Reynolds has filmed at least one scene as Deadpool for Logan.
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muscles like this! posted:They've announced that Ryan Reynolds has filmed at least one scene as Deadpool for Logan. Oh cool here's hoping that it won't be tonally insane!
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I am guessing it will be a post-credit thing at best.
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ImpAtom posted:I am guessing it will be a post-credit thing at best. Even if it was, that still sounds tonally insane for the kind of movie they're selling Logan as.
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Both James Mangold and Ryan Reynolds has said on Twitter that Deadpool is not in Logan. https://twitter.com/mang0ld/status/814207389175980032 https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/814208022629285890
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It'd be fine in a comic since future Deadpools tend to get Real loving Dark but yeah it'd be weird for the movie-verse.
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I think Deadpool could work fine in a movie like that as comic relief.
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It would be funny if dp was in logan, only its the lovely mute baraka knockoff version from origins to make people mad
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WickedHate posted:I think Deadpool could work fine in a movie like that as comic relief. It doesn't look like a movie that's going to have any comic relief.
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Aphrodite posted:It doesn't look like a movie that's going to have any comic relief. Which could really gently caress it up if it wants to avoid darkness induced audience apathy. Personally, I'm stuck between deciding between Logan or Skull Island.
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WickedHate posted:Which could really gently caress it up if it wants to avoid darkness induced audience apathy. Judging by the trailer, I don't think "avoid darkness" was on the to-do list. Logan's gonna be bleak as gently caress (if they do it right.)
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I'm not saying darkness can't be well done, but without some levity it just turns into Man of Steel. And, though it's apparently not happening, I could see Deadpool being a side character who keeps the mood from staying too low at all times, like the duo in Afro Samurai.
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If a movie is bleak, it doesn't have to have comic relief to provide levity. Instead, you give the audience little glimmers of hope to keep them getting too depressed to continue caring. And it looks like Logan will have that, mostly with Logan and X23 interactions. Deadpool would have been insanely inappropriate for the tone they want, I'm glad that rumor was false.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:If a movie is bleak, it doesn't have to have comic relief to provide levity. Instead, you give the audience little glimmers of hope to keep them getting too depressed to continue caring. And it looks like Logan will have that, mostly with Logan and X23 interactions. The shot at the end of The Road where Viggo Mortensen glances at the camera and mouths "The Aristocrats!" was the perfect capstone.
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I'm trying to figure out how they're going to use X-23 after this. Are they going to just go forward in time after Logan where she's Wolverine in that crappy world or will they send her back in time to star in subsequent X-Men movies?
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WickedHate posted:Which could really gently caress it up if it wants to avoid darkness induced audience apathy. TvTropes posted:It is often said that "conflict is the soul of drama"; without some form of conflict to fuel things, there's no engine to drive the story and thus little reason to engage with it. However, we here at TV Tropes would like to propose an amendment to this phrase which includes something important but sadly all-too-often forgotten: That's just adorable.
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Posting TVTropes is overplaying your hand. Nobody's going to believe you're genuine now.
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Still, it's a valid point. I never got invested in Game of Thrones because it became quickly apparent that everyone was going to suffer and eventually die and no one was ever going to be happy or end well.
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Cythereal posted:Still, it's a valid point. I never got invested in Game of Thrones because it became quickly apparent that everyone was going to suffer and eventually die and no one was ever going to be happy or end well. I was ready to give up on Game of Thrones after the "misery porn" seasons 4 and 5, but the last season, 6, was possibly the best one yet. It finally gave some of our "heroes" and point-of-view characters some much-needed victories and happy reunions, and the show desperately needed that.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I'm trying to figure out how they're going to use X-23 after this. Are they going to just go forward in time after Logan where she's Wolverine in that crappy world or will they send her back in time to star in subsequent X-Men movies? They're rebooting the X-Men franchise. She will be a forgotten idea, like how Psylocke was supposed to do anything.
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Cythereal posted:Still, it's a valid point. I never got invested in Game of Thrones because it became quickly apparent that everyone was going to suffer and eventually die and no one was ever going to be happy or end well. Nah, there are good moments for the heroes and even though I'm sure the ending isn't going to be "happily ever after" it seems pretty clear that the "good" characters will end up winning. It's Walking Dead where everyone and everything sucks. On the subject of X-Men, I think it's funny how they went and got some young actors and actresses to play Scott, Storm, Nightcrawler, and Jean and were saying that they're passing the torch to them and now we don't even know if any of them will be back for the next movie.
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Ignite Memories posted:Man, are they really? This is the first reboot, which is insane. New Wolverine actor and everything. If they were smart they'd just migrate over to the Deadpool world where Colossus is rad and the X-men have some color in their outfits.
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theironjef posted:This is the first reboot, which is insane. New Wolverine actor and everything. If they were smart they'd just migrate over to the Deadpool world where Colossus is rad and the X-men have some color in their outfits. Where have you read this?
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Cythereal posted:Still, it's a valid point. I never got invested in Game of Thrones because it became quickly apparent that everyone was going to suffer and eventually die and no one was ever going to be happy or end well. That's the most popular show on TV. Maybe #2, behind the same thing.
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Cable takes Laura from Logan at the beginning and bodyslides, but accidentally winds up stuck in Wade's body because he's incidentally in the exact same place and time that cable wants to go. And now we have wacky adventures of cablepool while negasonic has to babysit Also bleak films can be good
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Aphrodite posted:That's the most popular show on TV. And? I still never got into it because it was so relentlessly bleak.
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