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I'm pretty sure Armond White hates both Clark and Haneke, but he loves Dr. Dre, so I guess it's a fair cop.
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"Exploitation" has generally referred to not just all low budget movies or low budget non-art movies, but specifically the exploitation of subject matter- that is, you can't promise big stars, or breathtaking visuals, there's no pre-existing critical acclaim to market, it's just "we made a film about juvenile delinquents / drug use / nudists / people getting hacked into tiny pieces, and you don't care whether this is particularly well done, you just want to see this thing." (This is also where the "porn" argument comes in, a la "torture porn", "poverty porn", etc.- where it doesn't matter whether the thing is done well so long as it does what it says it does.) Of course it's not that simple- go through Amazon Prime looking for trashy flicks and you'll see stuff that's so bad the presence of boobs/explosions/etc. can't begin to redeem it, and on the flip side there's lots of stuff marketed through "exploitation" that was made with as much skill and passion and conviction as anything. (The early movies of David Cronenberg were mostly handled by exploitation outfits who would play up the sensational aspects and generally make a small profit- Videodrome was the first film a studio handled and also his first real flop.) All labels are fuzzy and imprecise though. Obviously Grindhouse would fail all these definitions since it was sold on Tarantino and Rodriguez and the stars but it's clearly meant to echo the tone and subject matter of many exploitation pictures, so it's closer to what people think of as exploitation than, say, God's Not Dead.
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Dec 29, 2016 20:21
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Yeah, Rolling Thunder is as exploitative as all hell but is like the best treatment of Vietnam War PTSD ever, and yes I'm including Rambo and that Tom Cruise movie.
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Dec 29, 2016 20:33
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Gleason is up on Prime. quote:At the age of 34, Steve Gleason, former NFL defensive back and New Orleans hero, was diagnosed with ALS. Doctors gave him two to five years to live. So that is what Steve chose to do: live. This film incorporates personal video journals from Gleason for his then-unborn son to footage of his adventures undertaken as part of his mission to live his life to the fullest. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I2BH81W
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Dec 29, 2016 21:46
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Funny Games works better as insight into how Haneke negatively perceives filmgoers than insight into the dark & cruel side of humanity expressed indirectly through its choices in entertainment. Like a lot of his stuff, it felt like an aloof sneer pointed in the direction of the "middlebrow".
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Maxwell Lord posted:All labels are fuzzy and imprecise though. Obviously Grindhouse would fail all these definitions since it was sold on Tarantino and Rodriguez and the stars but it's clearly meant to echo the tone and subject matter of many exploitation pictures, so it's closer to what people think of as exploitation than, say, God's Not Dead. See, regardless of what people think of, culturally God's Not Dead and the rest of the recent cycle of independent Christian films are closer to the historical concept of an 'exploitation film' than any contemporary horror film or erotic thriller. It's just that instead of movie reviewers saying, "Night of the Living Dead is a sick movie for sick people," contemporary reviewers call out the blatant anti-secularism of these films and the audiences they 'pander' to. In an era where everything is permissible, the 'grind' appears in those spaces where chastity and reactionary moral conservatism are emphasized over aesthetic originality and ideological progress. This is what I mean by how Grindhouse is about 'inventing genre.' The film is, in effect, a found-footage gimmick movie with elements of new media and avant-garde installation released to mainstream audiences with a very clear 'R' rating signifying its superficially obscene but altogether unremarkable 'for adults only' packaging. Classically speaking, many if not most exploitation movies were actually rated PG, because that's the demographic range where most of your audience was. This is what most moral crusaders were hung up on. The moniker of 'exploitation film' is exactly as authentic in terms of genre as the PMRC lumping Frank Zappa and Twisted Sister together.
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After initially barely making it through the first episode and not really caring to see any more, I gave Travelers another chance and I really like it. Just watched the episode featuring the team's primary mission and was surprised to see a pretty exciting concept there. All of the team members are drat cool but Marcy and Trevor are the best. It's no Continuum or 12 Monkeys but I'm enjoying it overall.
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Dec 29, 2016 23:26
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Call Me Charlie posted:Gleason is up on Prime.
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K. Waste posted:See, regardless of what people think of, culturally God's Not Dead and the rest of the recent cycle of independent Christian films are closer to the historical concept of an 'exploitation film' than any contemporary horror film or erotic thriller. It's just that instead of movie reviewers saying, "Night of the Living Dead is a sick movie for sick people," contemporary reviewers call out the blatant anti-secularism of these films and the audiences they 'pander' to. In an era where everything is permissible, the 'grind' appears in those spaces where chastity and reactionary moral conservatism are emphasized over aesthetic originality and ideological progress. Well, yeah, that's the thing- the modern indie Christian films are totally exploiting the fact that they're (Conservative) Christian Movies over any aesthetic qualities they have, and in that sense they're the latest in a long line of Christsploitation films. But someone who's in the mood for an "exploitation" movie is looking more for something like Planet Terror, because the label has taken on its own meaning.
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Captain America: Civil War is on Netflix. I don't really like superhero movies, ie Transformers, etc, but I liked Dark Night/Deadpool. Is it worth watching or is is some cornball crap like The Incredible Hulk?
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Transformers aren't super heroes.  But for real, if you haven't seen many of the other Marvel movies and don't have three hours to spare I don't know if you'd get much from Civil War. It's not like Deadpool or any of the DC movies.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Transformers aren't super heroes. So in other words, not worth it if I am not a big superhero fan. Oh well. Thanks 
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Maxwell Lord posted:Well, yeah, that's the thing- the modern indie Christian films are totally exploiting the fact that they're (Conservative) Christian Movies over any aesthetic qualities they have, and in that sense they're the latest in a long line of Christsploitation films. I know Estus Pirkel's films are up on youtube and available to stream if you want to see some real Christsploitation, with decapitations and vomit and kids getting stabbed through the ear.
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Hard Candy is up. Early Ellen Page, hard to watch because of the subject matter. I remember it being great, though.du -hast posted:Captain America: Civil War is on Netflix. I don't really like superhero movies, ie Transformers, etc, but I liked Dark Night/Deadpool.
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Hard Candy is one of the best movies of all time if you turn it off about 15 minutes before the end.
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du -hast posted:Captain America: Civil War is on Netflix. I don't really like superhero movies, ie Transformers, etc, but I liked Dark Night/Deadpool. It's a pretty boring slog, and is more Avengers 2.5 than anything else. The Russos are not good directors.
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precision posted:Hard Candy is one of the best movies of all time if you turn it off about 15 minutes before the end. I haven't seen it in a while but wouldn't that be really, uh grim and hosed up?
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Timby posted:It's a pretty boring slog, and is more Avengers 2.5 than anything else. The Russos are not good directors. Yeah I was rooting for them as a Community fan, but they're pretty bland in the genre.
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Counter opinion: Cap 3 is pretty good. You'll definitely need to have seen the other two Captain America movies (the first is decent, the second phenomenal) to understand what's going on. Of course, watching the Avengers and other Marvel movies factors in, because the movie has a pretty big cast.
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precision posted:Hard Candy is one of the best movies of all time if you turn it off about 15 minutes before the end. I watched this and I can conclude that you will grab and hold on to your testicles for most of the second half of the movie, but it really is fantastic - and terribly psychological. It ranks well below the threshold of gore that we expect in this kind of movie. So if you are looking for something on Netflix to watch for two hours Hard Candy is a good but gruesome pick. du -hast fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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Civil War is amazing, but definitely would benefit from watching the Captain America movies and the Avengers ones, all of those being decent to fantastic in their own right.
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I was actually in the mood to watch that the other night and got put off by how far behind on Marvel Movies I am. It actually looks pretty cool but I have only seen the first avengers and the first iron man movie so I figured I'd have no idea what was going on.
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Captain America 2 and 3 are basically Jason Bourne with superheroes. If that sounds like a good thing to you, watch those movies. You can skip the first. For what it's worth, Civil War is the most fun I had in a theater all year.
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CW was the first mcu movie I hated.
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MacheteZombie posted:CW was the first mcu movie I hated. Why did you hate it?
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The politics of it, the plot, it was ugly for large swaths, I thought it kept undercutting it's emotional moments, and the epilogue was stupid. I can get more specific if interested.
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I really liked Winter Soldier for being an overall smaller, tighter movie with some legit good action setups and scenes which are usually kinda bland in the Marvel films. Cause of this I was kinda hopeful for Civil War, but it being Avengers 3 really hurt it for me. Movie's got some bloat and the action goes back to being mostly boring.
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veni veni veni posted:I haven't seen it in a while but wouldn't that be really, uh grim and hosed up? Hard Candy spoilers ahoy: If you stop the film before it's shown that he is actually a capital-P Pedophile who has definitely murdered a girl before, then you have a great psychological thriller where you can't in good conscience root for either of them. Once the ambiguity about Patrick's character is dispelled, it makes the entire film a lot more boring.
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precision posted:Hard Candy spoilers ahoy: I disagree, I think that is the point where it gets even more interesting. After the spicy testicle removal I figured it would devolve into some sort of torture porn, but then eventually climaxes when the ex-wife is showing up, etc. In other words I think it picks up, rather than goes flat, though a couple people have said that the last 15-30 minutes was bad, the very end (hanging off the roof when the ex shows up) and the final scene "or not" was a great gotcha ending. I really recommend watching the whole thing and I don't think the last quarter is bad at all.
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precision posted:Hard Candy spoilers ahoy: Yeah. I watched a trailer earlier today and realized I completely forgot what the movie was actually about. I remembered it being a more traditional revenge flick with Page going ham at the very end.
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah. I watched a trailer earlier today and realized I completely forgot what the movie was actually about. I remembered it being a more traditional revenge flick with Page going ham at the very end. If you've seen Pet, it reminded me of Hard Candy a bit.
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precision posted:Hard Candy spoilers ahoy: I think it's fine to fully let us know that he is a straight up pedophile, but what always bothered me is that the movie ironically enough loses it's balls. It could have done something genuinely edgy and scary and instead they just kind of played the ending safe.
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After 2 episodes of the exorcist I cant figure out if it's worth watching or not.
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I am looking for a recommendation for a horror movie. Something along the lines of The Autopsy of Jane Doe, which I really liked, or the Conjuring 1/2. Also really liked Paranormal Activity. Another one I was into was The Ring. I am looking for creepy/jump out sorta thing like the ones mentioned above, mysterious sorta, if that makes sense. Weird poo poo like Hellraiser, etc are not really my cup of tea. I'm also not a big gore kinda guy, so things like Scream aren't for me either. I also saw Hard Candy yesterday and was really really into that. Doesn't necessarily have to be on Netflix or Amazon Prime, I don't mind renting it if it's something good edit: also, after almost 14 years on this forum, I just found out that Ctrl+b produces bold tags for you. smdh
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This is a little specific, but anyone know of any horror, action or sci-fi movies streaming on Amazon, Hulu or Netflix where people are trapped in a building, ship, spaceship, etc.? A few random examples I can think of: Intruder (1989) Cube Alien Event Horizon Descent Saw and sequels Deep Rising Green Room Devil Frozen (stuck on ski lift, not Disney) Some (German?) Alien rip-off with lots of sex that was on Hulu for a long time Hell, even The Glass House or Panic Room. Would prefer good or so-bad-its-good (like the Alien rip-off) suggestions. I just like movies where the characters are trapped in some way.
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we are the Funyuns posted:This is a little specific, but anyone know of any horror, action or sci-fi movies streaming on Amazon, Hulu or Netflix where people are trapped in a building, ship, spaceship, etc.? Have you seen Don't Breathe yet? Sounds like it might be just what you're looking for.
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No I haven't. I'll check it out. Thanks!
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we are the Funyuns posted:This is a little specific, but anyone know of any horror, action or sci-fi movies streaming on Amazon, Hulu or Netflix where people are trapped in a building, ship, spaceship, etc.? If you don't mind a few ads the original Day Of The Dead is on Shout Factory TV and Vudu On Us. Most of that takes place in an underground bunker. And I haven't seen it but Containment is on Amazon Prime. That may fit what you're looking for. If you get a shutter account, they have [REC], [REC]2, Pontypool, the original Assault On Precinct 13 and the remake of Night Of The Living Dead. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Pontypool owns hard.Sarchasm posted:Have you seen Don't Breathe yet? Sounds like it might be just what you're looking for.  to a good extent as well.
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