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pro starcraft loser posted:Redskins gonna Redskin.
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Kirk Cousins is average, more at 11.
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Jan 2, 2017 01:49
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Porn on VHS posted:The GDT was full of Packers/Lions fans who wanted to clinch the playoffs with a Skins loss, there's no secret vendetta against the Redskins No I totally get that this week, there's huge playoff implications all round. I'm more upset the Skins ruined what could have been a really good SNF game. 
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Jan 2, 2017 01:49
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Mind_Taker posted:I'm not as diehard of a Redskins fan as I used to be so that's good. Every year I try to watch hockey, and every year I fail.
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Jan 2, 2017 01:51
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Kirk Cousins is the real deal he just had a bad game against an excellent secondary
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Jan 2, 2017 01:52
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I have a vendetta against the Redskins but it isn't secret.
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Jan 2, 2017 01:52
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Porn on VHS posted:Kirk Cousins is the real deal he just had a bad game against an excellent secondary Is anyone actually blaming Cousins for that loss? I mean that INT hurt but so did every other aspect of the game.
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Jan 2, 2017 01:53
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Skins fans should be thanking the Giants. Better draft pick, and we just saved you a bunch of money on re-signing a solid QB by picking him off with the season on the line This Giants team will frustrate someone in the wildcard round but they aint doing poo poo with an offense this bad
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Jan 2, 2017 02:06
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Losing the game to send em to the playoffs twice in a row definitely knocked a few mil off Kirk's contract, and that team had first round exit stamped on their drat foreheads Now to hope the front office doesn't have the brain eating bacteria that buffalo has that ditches the best QB theyve had in forever for some platonic ideal that just doesn't exist.
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Jan 2, 2017 02:11
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pro starcraft loser posted:Is anyone actually blaming Cousins for that loss? I mean that INT hurt but so did every other aspect of the game. Not anyone with a brain. That last pick was a result of Kirk forcing the throw, but it was a pretty comprehensive failure. 4,917 yards, 30 total TDs, and 12 Ints isn't exactly terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if Washington tosses another franchise tag on him at worst.
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Jan 2, 2017 02:12
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pro starcraft loser posted:Is anyone actually blaming Cousins for that loss? I mean that INT hurt but so did every other aspect of the game. They only scored 1 touchdown and were 4 for 12 on 3rd downs. It was a poor performance.
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Jan 2, 2017 02:24
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Cash Monet posted:They only scored 1 touchdown and were 4 for 12 on 3rd downs. It was a poor performance. Against a good defense and hey would you look at that the run game didn't show up again. Hissing at any less than stellar performance like the aliens in v is what idiots in buffalo who want to run tyrod out on a rail do.
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Jan 2, 2017 03:31
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shiksa posted:Against a good defense and hey would you look at that the run game didn't show up again. Does not compute, please reframe your argument in Star Trek comparisons
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Jan 2, 2017 03:55
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I think everyone in the NFC East can unite behind one thing: Seahawks delenda est
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Jan 2, 2017 04:04
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Lote posted:I think everyone in the NFC East can unite behind one thing: Seahawks delenda est We've done that to ourselves already. Kill the Cowboys.
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Jan 2, 2017 04:09
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Cash Monet posted:They only scored 1 touchdown and were 4 for 12 on 3rd downs. It was a poor performance. He was definitely responsible for a few overthrows to Jackson and missed a wide open Crowder, but the inability of the run game to provide anything close to a threat really hampered them.
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Jan 2, 2017 04:10
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Eagles get the 12th draft position. Cleveland gets their 1st round pick, but they get the Vikings pick at 14. Redskins at #17.
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Jan 2, 2017 05:06
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NotWearingPants posted:Eagles get the 12th draft position. Cleveland gets their 1st round pick, but they get the Vikings pick at 14. Philly traded 2 draft slots in the first round for Carson Wentz Also Chip got fired lol
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Jan 2, 2017 05:18
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Eagles finish with the toughest schedule (strength of schedule) in the NFL this season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff?appsrc=sc Also to note, Eagles had by far the strongest Strength of Victory (beating teams with good records). 89 fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Jan 2, 2017 09:38
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89 posted:Eagles finish with the toughest schedule (strength of schedule) in the NFL this season. I'll be sure to put a phone call into the banner shop, thanks.
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Jan 2, 2017 14:28
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89 posted:Eagles finish with the toughest schedule (strength of schedule) in the NFL this season. I would say that the Eagles represent the biggest surprise of the season for me.
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Jan 2, 2017 14:59
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89 posted:Eagles finish with the toughest schedule (strength of schedule) in the NFL this season. The strength of victory thing is tainted by beating Dallas with Sanchez at the helm, but they had some good victories and lost some close games. They finish with a point differential of +36 which is tied for 9th. I'm content with the results. Considering they have a rookie coach and rookie QB, they did well. They showed promise for the future without totally screwing up their draft position with a pointless playoff run that would have gone nowhere.
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Jan 2, 2017 15:05
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NotWearingPants posted:The strength of victory thing is tainted by beating Dallas with Sanchez at the helm, but they had some good victories and lost some close games. They finish with a point differential of +36 which is tied for 9th. I'm annoyed they won two meaningless games and hosed up their draft order. Edit: Dammit I forgot they swapped picks. Nevermind. Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Jan 2, 2017 15:13
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Its interesting having played 2 weak teams at the start of a season as opposed to the end, if we had started against the Seahawks and Dallas, then beat the Steelers, people wouldnt have been so high on what would have likely been a 1-2 schedule. All in all this has been a good year for the Eagles, we have a franchise QB, have really found out where the holes in our team are. Also we won 3 games more than i expected so woop
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Jan 2, 2017 15:24
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CyberPingu posted:Its interesting having played 2 weak teams at the start of a season as opposed to the end, if we had started against the Seahawks and Dallas, then beat the Steelers, people wouldnt have been so high on what would have likely been a 1-2 schedule. Plus got that first round pick back
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Jan 2, 2017 16:23
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So will we see DeSean come home ? I really hope so.
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Jan 2, 2017 16:30
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El Patron posted:So will we see DeSean come home ? I think so. The Redskins will probably let him walk and try to resign Garçon.
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Jan 2, 2017 16:41
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Let's all take a moment to appreciate how Chip Kelly didn't even make it a year with the Niners.
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Jan 2, 2017 17:01
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a new study bible! posted:Let's all take a moment to appreciate how Chip Kelly didn't even make it a year with the Niners. That doesn't mean anything. Jed York is a loving moron and you can't hire a GM without giving him his choice in a coach
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Jan 2, 2017 17:36
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:That doesn't mean anything. Jed York is a loving moron and you can't hire a GM without giving him his choice in a coach This is truth. another truth is that Chip Kelly is a poo poo coach both truths are true, and maybe we should actually laugh at the Eagles for taking 3 years to fire a bad coach fuckin Jed York fired in 1
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Jan 2, 2017 17:38
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Febreeze posted:This is truth. Firing a guy who went 10-6 on his first two years would have been ridiculous, it was bold enough to fire him on his third year considering his record.
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Jan 2, 2017 17:46
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El Patron posted:Firing a guy who went 10-6 on his first two years would have been ridiculous, it was bold enough to fire him on his third year considering his record. The team got progressively less talented while he was there, and the more control he had over personnel, the worse things got. I'd argue that in year 1 he was largely playing with Andy's guys. I think firing Chip after one season is dumb as hell, but I don't think he was that good in Philly, either.
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Jan 2, 2017 18:21
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TheChirurgeon posted:The team got progressively less talented while he was there, and the more control he had over personnel, the worse things got. I'd argue that in year 1 he was largely playing with Andy's guys. I think firing Chip after one season is dumb as hell, but I don't think he was that good in Philly, either. I think giving him the job in the first place was dumb as hell. I didn't follow the 49ers this year, and I know he had no talent to work with, but I assume he is still running the college offense that teams figured out after his first year in Philly. He certainly wasn't able to respond to teams figuring him out while he was in Philly. I personally think Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie would have liked to have fired him after 2 years. But he was backed into a corner. You can't fire a coach after two 10-6 seasons. Kelly had leverage and was able to use that leverage to demand full control of player personnel, and then he wrecked the team. But the point I am trying to make is that while Chip Kelly was a complete disaster as a GM, that shouldn't obscure the fact that he was also a really lovely coach.
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Jan 2, 2017 19:00
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NotWearingPants posted:I think giving him the job in the first place was dumb as hell. I didn't follow the 49ers this year, and I know he had no talent to work with, but I assume he is still running the college offense that teams figured out after his first year in Philly. He certainly wasn't able to respond to teams figuring him out while he was in Philly. fair enough. I think he'd have been a much better hire as OC than a head coach, but I don't think it was necessarily a dumb hire for the Eagles--Sure, in hindsight it didn't work out, but he was as promising a prospect as they come. He just didn't adapt well to the NFL.
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TheChirurgeon posted:fair enough. I think he'd have been a much better hire as OC than a head coach, but I don't think it was necessarily a dumb hire for the Eagles--Sure, in hindsight it didn't work out, but he was as promising a prospect as they come. He just didn't adapt well to the NFL. I agree. I think it was good hire for Philly that just didn't work out. It's so strange to me that coaches sometimes seem unable to self scout and identify things they do wrong. Take Andy Reid for example: he does so many things correctly, yet has had one particular problem that has followed him for almost 20 years now: clock management. It seems like such an easy issue to address. Hire a "special offensive assistant, clock management" or something. Why doesn't he do this? Can he possibly be unaware it's an issue? Does he think he's just going to get better at it all of a sudden? Kelly's issues run deeper, but it was so frustrating watching him continue to run that read option last season when Bradford never froze the unblocked defender and DeMarco Murray would get hit in the backfield as he was handed the ball on almost every play. I wanted to grab him by the collar and scream, "Dude! Nobody thinks Sam Bradford is going to run the ball. How can you not see that? That play does not work and it will never work as long as the unblocked defender knows the QB is not ever going to keep the ball and run." This season my pet peeve was the quick screen. Correct me if I don't understand the concept here, but doesn't that play only really work if the opposing cornerbacks respect the outside receivers enough to play off them a little? Doug, nobody respects your outside receivers nor should they. How do you expect that play to ever work when opposing cornerbacks don't feel the need to give your receivers any padding at the line of scrimmage? NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Jan 2, 2017 19:28
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NattyBo posted:I think so. The Redskins will probably let him walk and try to resign Garçon. I would expect the same thing. Jackson is a speedster who's showing signs of slowing down, and assuming Doctson ever gets on the field he's expected to basically take over that role.
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Jan 2, 2017 19:51
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NotWearingPants posted:I agree. I think it was good hire for Philly that just didn't work out. Yeah, it's a really interesting problem. Part of it may just be hubris, part may be logistics--how feasible is it to have a separate coach telling you when to time out? how does it look to have someone else making those decisions? What if your offense just straight isn't good enough to run a 2-minute offense effectively (which I guess could have been the case last year for the Chiefs)? I'm sure he has to suspect he could have done some things better, but it may boil down to "this is our process for making decisions, and it's gotten me success in the past, so let's stick with that." I'm kind of amazed NFL teams don't take more advantage of what I think is the great untapped area of cost advantage: coaches and assistants. They don't count toward your cap, so why not spend good money assembling a roster of the league's best assistant coaches for higher pay? quote:Kelly's issues run deeper, but it was so frustrating watching him continue to run that read option last season when Bradford never froze the unblocked defender and DeMarco Murray would get hit in the backfield as he was handed the ball on almost every play. I wanted to grab him by the collar and scream, "Dude! Nobody thinks Sam Bradford is going to run the ball. How can you not see that? That play does not work and it will never work as long as the unblocked defender knows the QB is not ever going to keep the ball and run." For some reason, Kelly insisted on not having a mobile QB in his scheme. I see his issues as very similar to Spurrier's, where he failed to take into consideration how quickly the league would A. Adopt his best improvements, and B. Adapt to his offense. He never changed, or if he did he did too slowly, which led to defenses being able to tell immediately what play was being run based on the pre-snap formation. The problems got worse when his offense declined in efficiency in years two and three--running to the line for every snap to get plays off as quick as possible (or as quick as the refs would allow, another NFL issue he didn't account for) is great when you can go down the field and score, or at least pick up a few first downs, but it's devastating on your defense when you continually punt the ball away after holding it for only 30 seconds. And yeah, quick screens require the defense sitting back or playing zone to be useful. If they know they can jam your guys at the line, you aren't going to get much traction.
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TheChirurgeon posted:I'm kind of amazed NFL teams don't take more advantage of what I think is the great untapped area of cost advantage: coaches and assistants. They don't count toward your cap, so why not spend good money assembling a roster of the league's best assistant coaches for higher pay? Probably for the same reason that scouting remains hilariously under-funded compared to the way most other industries work on research; because Football.
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The NFC East Champion is going to hoist the Lombardi this year as is God's Will
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1)gently caress the Iggles 2)Seriously though, I'm really not looking forward to playing Philly in the future. With the Giants and the Redskins, there are some big question marks about where they head in the next five years, even if it mostly comes down to "when will they switch out at QB?" With the Eagles, I mean they really felt like one good WR away from competing for the division. That first game against Dallas was a cheek clencher, and if Schwartz sticks around long enough as DC that's bound to cause headaches down the road. Wentz looks good, the defense looks good, that's two really big pieces right there. I hate your city, your team, your fanbase, but I can't deny Philly scares me the most starting next season.
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