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Mulva posted:Nah I feel like if you literally send a baby to hell to gently caress over some people you are obsessed with you can be written off for all eternity and you will never ever redeem yourself ever. But that worked out in the end too!
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Look, it's fine. All we have to do is elect Grey Squirrel as his VP and she'll keep him in line.
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Sentinel Red posted:He's saved more lives than he's taken, it evens out in his favour. Besides, are you saying criminals can never be redeemed, that they must be shunned and ostracised forever more no matter how much they realise their past actions were wrong, or genuine their desire to make amends for their misdeeds? That'd be pretty mental. I just think it should be part of the conversation, man. But seriously, when did Valeria getting turned into leather armor get undone?
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Jan 1, 2017 16:09
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Doom cried over 9/11, that will get him votes on its own.
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pubic works project posted:Victor Von Doom 2020 I support his Richards-killing policy. Also, his plan for healthcare reform is both fiscally sound and meets the social need.
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I wanna see the final showdown between Reed and Doom from the end of Secret Wars redone with Bernie and Trump.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I just think it should be part of the conversation, man. When did this even happen to begin with? I must be behind.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:When did this even happen to begin with? I must be behind. Like 15 years ago.
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Jan 2, 2017 03:09
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Valeria his girlfriend, not the baby. He did not skin a baby and wear her. Just his high school sweetheart Edit: in the Waid/Wieringo run for anyone not in the loop.
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It's part of Waid's run, iirc.
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Wait didn't doom get to name her Valeria since he delivered her
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Where did skin-armor-Valeria show up that people are questioning her return?
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I have no idea, I brought it up and someone said it had been fixed.
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Rhyno posted:Where did skin-armor-Valeria show up that people are questioning her return? "Doom, I had the weirdest nightmare! Thank goodness it was just a dream!" "Woof!"
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...it's been like a whole page of no one knowing. Can we go ahead and assume Valeria's still skinned and dead and chilling wherever skinned dead people are and it's just never been undone?
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Jan 2, 2017 11:36
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Seems that way. Victor is such a good person.
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Doom for prez in 2099. He will skin your ex girlfriend and send her soul to hell because Mark Waid is old and doesn't understand Doom could be more than a cartoon villain with a hate boner for Richards. Thank God for Jonathan Hickman. Please give him control over DC and Marvel at the same time and let him lead.
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Gatts posted:Doom for prez in 2099. Mark Waid wrote those issues when he was 39.
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Rhyno posted:Mark Waid wrote those issues when he was 39. Ooooooooold geeeeeeezzzeerrrrr. Purist or traditionalist or something. At least not like Byrne.
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Rhyno posted:Mark Waid wrote those issues when he was 39. Yes, we're old.
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Gatts posted:Ooooooooold geeeeeeezzzeerrrrr. Purist or traditionalist or something. At least not like Byrne. Waid wasn't an FF fan when he started on the comic - it was Wieringo was a huge FF fan and Waid was keen to collaborate with him again. I believe Waid read the Lee/Kirby issues and that was it for him.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Waid wasn't an FF fan when he started on the comic - it was Wieringo was a huge FF fan and Waid was keen to collaborate with him again. I believe Waid read the Lee/Kirby issues and that was it for him. Hickman also said he wasn't a big FF fan at the start.
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Damnit let me just live in my ignorance! I really didn't like what he did with Doom there at that time.
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Doom can be any number of things. That's one of his strengths as a character: he's almost infinitely adaptable. He is possibly the most adaptable major supervillain there's ever been in the cape comics.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Doom can be any number of things. That's one of his strengths as a character: he's almost infinitely adaptable. He is possibly the most adaptable major supervillain there's ever been in the cape comics. 
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yea I like infamous iron man a lot so far. still early days and all but it's a strong start
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I did think it was particularly doom to rewrite the ending to secret wars to completely ignore everything that actually happened. It wasnt that half of battleworld rose up against him, or that he was betrayed by those closest to him because he was a such a complete poo poo, or that he lost to richards yet again, it was that he was not one with the universe
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My favorite Doom story is the time he went on a date with Storm.  It was going pretty great until he turned her into a statue of living chrome.  Storm really didn't like being a statue.  She was pretty ticked off when she got free.   But then she had to clear up the hurricane whe made when she was going crazy. The effort was as tremendous as the holocaust itself.  Then Arcade calls her a bimbo, Doom gives her some smooth talk, and its all good.  This is from Uncanny X-Men 145-147. It was published in 1981, and it's made of pure Claremontium. In the next issue, Cyclops stumbles across the sunken city of Ry'leh.
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It's Octopusheim and Cyclops and Lee Forrester get snazzy costumes from Magneto. I really hope the next X-men books follow the way Claremont wrote books, lots of smaller stuff that leads to a big thing, and then issues that are smaller character stories interspaced.
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I wonder if it is possible for mainstream comics to tell stories like that anymore. Re-reading a lot of that stuff recently, those comics were so much more dense and you could cover ground that would take three issues these days.
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Doom and Storm seem like it'd be fun. Both are regal and it'd be so Doom to want to tame a Goddess. Let Namor stick to married women.
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Gatts posted:Doom and Storm seem like it'd be fun. Both are regal and it'd be so Doom to want to tame a Goddess. Let Namor stick to married women. Namor and Storm were together in Age of X
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site posted:I did think it was particularly doom to rewrite the ending to secret wars to completely ignore everything that actually happened. It wasnt that half of battleworld rose up against him, or that he was betrayed by those closest to him because he was a such a complete poo poo, or that he lost to richards yet again, it was that he was not one with the universe It's not even just that he lost to Reed, it's that he had to admit, just for one moment, that Reed really is smarter than him.
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twistedmentat posted:In the Wood series
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twistedmentat posted:I really hope the next X-men books follow the way Claremont wrote books, lots of smaller stuff that leads to a big thing, and then issues that are smaller character stories interspaced. Sure, that was what Morrison was explicitly aiming for with New X-Men - the Claremont/Byrne thing where they did a bunch of two-to-four issue stories within a bigger story arc. Days of Future Past? I think that's two issues. I think the longest single storyline they did together was Dark Phoenix, which is only six issues by itself, but it's built to pretty much from before Byrne joined the comic. They did the "world tour" one which introduces Mariko and Alpha Flight but that's more of a series of stories than a big story in itself. Anyway, my favourite Doctor Doom story is the Lee/Kirby one where he steals the Silver Surfer's powers, because that's the definitive Doom story.
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Gatts posted:Doom for prez in 2099. Yeah, except the complete opposite.
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BrianWilly posted:...it's been like a whole page of no one knowing. Can we go ahead and assume Valeria's still skinned and dead and chilling wherever skinned dead people are and it's just never been undone? I'd still vote for Doom over Trump in 2020.
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twistedmentat posted:Doom cried over 9/11, that will get him votes on its own. Trump would insult the way he drinks bottled water and when Doom mentions how big of influence his mom was be told she should have ran. After losing Doom spend the reminder of his life hiding in the woods while being reminded constantly and correctly, Reed Would Have Won.
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NutritiousSnack posted:After losing Doom spend the reminder of his life hiding in the woods while being reminded constantly and correctly, Reed Would Have Won. Reed "I Saved the Life of Galactus" Richards?
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