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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Disney Fanclub posted a short synopsis for Thor: Ragnarok. It looks like Doctor Strange will have a fairly significant role in the movie. This is the first thing I've heard about Thor 3 that makes me wary about it. I wasn't super thrilled with Dr. Strange and the character himself was definitely not one of the highlights for me.
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Even in the comics Thor has usually needed other heroes to keep things interesting, whether it's his Asgardian buds, Beta Ray Bill, or the other Avengers. Since they don't seem too enthusiastic about, or capable of, building up the first two that leaves the MCU crew. Especially if Jane Foster, Selvig, and Kat Dennings' character aren't returning.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:22
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Well they have all the actors to multifilm contracts they may as well use them. Plus Dr. Strange and Thor are a good match.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:25
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Lobok posted:Yep, Winter Soldier and a resurrected Bucky were entirely Brubaker's incredibly ballsy ideas. The MCU takes a lot from relatively modern comic book stories. Until then Bucky was famous as the venerable exception to the "no one in comics stays dead" rule.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:26
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If anything the best/most interesting part about Thor 3 won't even be Thor or Doctor Strange, but Loki, Jeff Goldblum, Hela and Karl Urban.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:02
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All I want from these loving Thor movies is for Tadanobu Asano to have more than three lines. Dude is an amazing actor, what's the point of casting him if you're not gonna have him do anything?
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Jan 3, 2017 00:11
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https://twitter.com/larryfong/status/815696728837918720
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Jan 3, 2017 00:19
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Is Hogun laconic in the comics? He looks like that kinda guy
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Jan 3, 2017 00:21
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Baron Porkface posted:Is Hogun laconic in the comics? He looks like that kinda guy Not just laconic, taciturn even. It's great casting, Asano owns in that sort of role.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:28
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Hodgepodge posted:Until then Bucky was famous as the venerable exception to the "no one in comics stays dead" rule. Isn't Uncle Ben the only person used as a Stays Dead example to still be dead? I remember hearing Gwen Stacy, Jason Todd and Bucky thrown around as examples.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:48
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LesterGroans posted:Isn't Uncle Ben the only person used as a Stays Dead example to still be dead? Gwen Stacy is still dead, Spider Gwen and Gwen Pool are Gwen Stacies from alternate universes
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Jan 3, 2017 00:58
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Who the hell is Thor in these movies, anyway?
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Sir Potato posted:If anything the best/most interesting part about Thor 3 won't even be Thor or Doctor Strange, but Loki, Jeff Goldblum, Hela and Karl Urban. The most interesting thing about Thor 3 is that Taika Waititi is directing it, and I have incredibly high hopes because of that.
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Sir Potato posted:If anything the best/most interesting part about Thor 3 won't even be Thor or Doctor Strange, but Loki, Jeff Goldblum, Hela and Karl Urban.
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Jan 3, 2017 01:25
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LesterGroans posted:Isn't Uncle Ben the only person used as a Stays Dead example to still be dead? I think the return of Gwen Stacy from the dead was flashbacks or something that retconned in Norman Osborn fathering two babies with her or something. While technically not alive again, it was a total violation of the spirit of [short list of characters] that are the exception that prove the rule that nobody stays dead in comics. Uncle Ben is indeed the lone remaining member of the longstanding list that once included Jason Todd and Bucky.
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Gyges posted:I think the return of Gwen Stacy from the dead was flashbacks or something that retconned in Norman Osborn fathering two babies with her or something. While technically not alive again, it was a total violation of the spirit of [short list of characters] that are the exception that prove the rule that nobody stays dead in comics. They have done dumb retcons to the Gwen Stacy Character, they cloned Gwen Stacy, they brought in multiple Gwen Stacies from alternate universe. But the Gwen Stacy who died on the bridge still died on that bridge, and has stayed dead ever since.
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Halloween Jack posted:Who the hell is Thor in these movies, anyway? Thor is pretty good at getting the much coveted mom demographic.
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Guy Goodbody posted:They have done dumb retcons to the Gwen Stacy Character, they cloned Gwen Stacy, they brought in multiple Gwen Stacies from alternate universe. But the Gwen Stacy who died on the bridge still died on that bridge, and has stayed dead ever since. This is a distinction without a difference, though this probably isn't the thread for that. Uncle Ben and Thomas/Martha Wayne are the holdouts, and they're not really characters. AJ Lieberman's Gotham Knights run about a decade or so back heavily teased that they'd reveal the villain Hush to be the resurrected and angry Thomas Wayne, but didn't go through with it (instead, there were some Clayface shenanigans, and then Joker outfitted Hush with a pacemaker with a remote controlled explosive, and the run ended with Batman abandoning Hush to his fate on a "I'm not going to kill you, but I don't have to save you" note).
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Jan 3, 2017 02:45
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achillesforever6 posted:That and Sam Neill is showing up too, and from what has been said Anthony Hopkin's looks like he won't sleep walk in this movie at least. Hopkins won't but his character will 
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Jan 3, 2017 02:56
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The thing about Bucky and Jason Todd is that they were heroes themselves. It's a big deal that they came back but in coming back you would expect they could do stuff and get in on the action, evil or not. There's some excitement there. Not as many cool panels you can wring out of Uncle Ben: Formerly Deceased Retiree. Having said that, I would be down for a What If...? featuring the most hilariously boring non-adventures of Uncle Ben's new life. Lobok fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Jan 3, 2017 03:45
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Anthony Hopkins sure is in a lot of popular things this past couple of years. Not just Thor 3, but Transformers 5 and Westworld too.
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Lobok posted:Having said that, I would be down for a What If...? featuring the most hilariously boring non-adventures of Uncle Ben's new life. This isn't quite that, but maybe it's close enough.  
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They've covered pretty much every other alternative version of Spidey's origin as well:    Spoiler: either someone else dies which has the same effect on Peter or he eventually realises that With Great Powers Come Great Responsibility and becomes a superhero anyway
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Lobok posted:The thing about Bucky and Jason Todd is that they were heroes themselves. It's a big deal that they came back but in coming back you would expect they could do stuff and get in on the action, evil or not. There's some excitement there. Not as many cool panels you can wring out of Uncle Ben: Formerly Deceased Retiree. Well, a Ben Parker who got bitten and became Spiderman recently showed up and the current mega story running in the Spiderman books has the Jackal offering to resurrect Ben with no strings attached. So yeah.
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Jan 3, 2017 04:04
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Did they ever do What If Aunt May died instead of Uncle Ben?
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Jan 3, 2017 04:08
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Gyges posted:Did they ever do What If Aunt May died instead of Uncle Ben? Of course they did 
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Jan 3, 2017 04:15
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Well?
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Of course they did did uncle ben kill aunt may because it looks like he's getting arrested there
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Brother Entropy posted:did uncle ben kill aunt may because it looks like he's getting arrested there Nah, Spider-Man accidentally causes the death of the burglar who killed Aunt May and Uncle Ben takes the rap to keep Peter out of jail. Without their influence Peter ends up on hard times and quits being Spider-Man and falls in with the wrong crowd but TWIST ENDING he eventually realises that With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility and becomes a hero.
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I dunno. Ben may be the type to take justice in his own hands for May's killer and end up teaching Peter something completely different.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Well? Brother Entropy posted:did uncle ben kill aunt may because it looks like he's getting arrested there Nah, Peter goes after the burglar and just like in the first Raimi movie, the burglar falls out a window after being spooked by Peter. Ben arrives and calms Peter down but while they talk the police arrives and Ben confesses the "murder" to let Peter escape. Without Ben, Peter never becomes a hero and continues to be Spiderman for profit. After a bunch of weird coincidences, a trip to the Juvie center and putting the Green Goblin in a coma; Peter finally tries to break Ben out from prison and there is when the "With Great Power" speech finally comes up. Peter decides to stop being Spiderman until Ben is released. Once they are together again, Ben scans the emergency frequencies to tell Peter where Spiderman is needed.
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Jesus Christ, that's so loving stupid.
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hey uncle ben ur son is a spider man he can probably avoid cops
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Jan 3, 2017 04:31
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Basically however much you change around Spider-Man's origin he always becomes goodguy Spider-Man anyway because Marvel can't/won't have it any other way, even in a completely hypothetical "What If" story.
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Or if he's in somebody else's What If? story, he just dies.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Or if he's in somebody else's What If? story, he just dies. I would love a What If? book which is just a series of single-page montages of different possible ways Uncle Ben could have died done by different artists. What if comic books were good?
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Gatts posted:I dunno. Ben may be the type to take justice in his own hands for May's killer and end up teaching Peter something completely different. I could read an issue or two of Uncle Ben's Death Wish.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Basically however much you change around Spider-Man's origin he always becomes goodguy Spider-Man anyway because Marvel can't/won't have it any other way, even in a completely hypothetical "What If" story. Which is incredibly dumb, imo, since part of what appeals to me about Spidey's origin is that it scans like a supervillain origin right up until Ben dies.
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Jan 3, 2017 04:49
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Without Aunt May Peter Parker starts getting into Mencius Moldbug
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Which is incredibly dumb, imo, since part of what appeals to me about Spidey's origin is that it scans like a supervillain origin right up until Ben dies. A cynic might assume that certain comicbook companies are more interested in serving up reheated by-the-numbers nostalgia fodder rather than telling interesting and original stories ...
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