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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

WampaLord posted:

Rewatching TNG on Netflix and the sound mixing is loving terrible. The music is alarmingly loud compared to dialogue levels. I have to reach for the volume control the second an episode ends.

Does Netflix still have that one Voyager episode up where the music was briefly replaced by studio audience applause?

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
Just finished the first half of The Fifty-Year Mission, and I might be a bad person for saying this, but as the book went on Walter Koenig's recollections increasingly reminded me of that sad retrospective by Michael Jackson (the actor) on his time with Trailer Park Boys.

I got the impression he really didn't have a good time on the movies overall.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Tighclops posted:

I miss the old Lego space subthemes that gave you just enough information for your child brain to fill in all the blanks, I know those basically stopped selling well toward the end of the 90's and so that's why it's been a parade of licensed poo poo ever since

And no I don't mean bring back Space Police for 4th time goddamnit
Have you looked at Nexo Knights? It's basically a Space theme with Castle elements. Just ignore all the game tie-in stuff and bathe in all the trans neon orange.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

WampaLord posted:

Rewatching TNG on Netflix and the sound mixing is loving terrible. The music is alarmingly loud compared to dialogue levels. I have to reach for the volume control the second an episode ends.

It really killed the use of TNG as sleepy-time white noise for me.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


The_Doctor posted:

Yes but I can play as the 8th Doctor driving around in the BttF Delorean with Egon Spengler and the Wicked Witch of the West as my buddies while we solve sliding block time travel puzzles. :colbert:

So I see you've seen the leaked Chris Chibnall plans for next season as well? :allears:

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Knormal posted:

Have you looked at Nexo Knights? It's basically a Space theme with Castle elements. Just ignore all the game tie-in stuff and bathe in all the trans neon orange.

Yeah, I've seen it. Interesting concept but too much Castle, not enough Space.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Big Mean Jerk posted:

This isn't a thing. Space Police III ran concurrently with Star Wars a few years back. The only restriction regarding Star Wars, that I'm aware of, is that Lego can never do a SW collectible minifig line because that would conflict with Hasbro's action figure licensing.

So it slipped my mind but if what I read is correct part of the Lego Star Wars contract includes a thing where Lego will never make Star Trek sets.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Star Wars is a better fit for Lego anyway, so why risk cannibalizing sells? Adults who are nerdy enough to really want Star Trek Legos can just custom them up somehow, and kids who want it are probably coming off JJTrek which is Star Wars Lite anyway.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
BECAUSE MEGA BLOCKS SUCK.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
A classic Space Man minifig was a central character in the Lego Movie, they're not ignoring it.

When I was a kid, I built Star Trek legos all the time, Ships. the best I came up with was a decent Reliant.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


I'd rather have no toys than have Mega Blocks.

We didn't have a lot of money when I was a kid, so I had Go-Bots instead of Transformers. I've already had the B Team once!

Although Go-Bots were easier to sneak into church and you could play with them with Hot Wheels more easily. And a few of us even had Rock Lords and those required you to have ONE HELL OF AN IMAGINATION to play with.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe

Drink-Mix Man posted:

It really killed the use of TNG as sleepy-time white noise for me.

http://www.howtogeek.com/115656/3-ways-to-normalize-sound-volume-on-your-pc/

You don't really want your sound normalized all the time, but it's possible in a few different ways in windows. Same with certain tv's and stereos.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Just finished the first half of The Fifty-Year Mission, and I might be a bad person for saying this, but as the book went on Walter Koenig's recollections increasingly reminded me of that sad retrospective by Michael Jackson (the actor) on his time with Trailer Park Boys.

I got the impression he really didn't have a good time on the movies overall.
That would make sense since Chekov gets very little to do in the films other than in II and IV.

I was glad that they gave the character more to do in Star Trek Beyond, particularly since as it turned out that actor ended up dying like 2 months before the film came out.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
So I'm reading through The 50 Year Mission and I got to the "My idea of pleasure is waves and waves of cum exploding out of me" Gene quote, but no one in this thread mentioned that he said it in an Irish accent while high as poo poo on the phone. I feel like this should definitely be common knowledge.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Sash! posted:

I'd rather have no toys than have Mega Blocks.

We didn't have a lot of money when I was a kid, so I had Go-Bots instead of Transformers. I've already had the B Team once!

Although Go-Bots were easier to sneak into church and you could play with them with Hot Wheels more easily. And a few of us even had Rock Lords and those required you to have ONE HELL OF AN IMAGINATION to play with.

My favorite Trek Toy was the Micromachine Ships. I had a bunch, the only ones i still have left are the Excelsior, Reliant and Bird of Prey. I had a few others, but they vanished over the years. I still kick myself for not buying the big sets that were on discount like 20 years ago, one had DS9 and the other had Voyager.

Zurui
Apr 20, 2005
Even now...



twistedmentat posted:

My favorite Trek Toy was the Micromachine Ships. I had a bunch, the only ones i still have left are the Excelsior, Reliant and Bird of Prey. I had a few others, but they vanished over the years. I still kick myself for not buying the big sets that were on discount like 20 years ago, one had DS9 and the other had Voyager.

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Machines-Star-Limited-Collectors/dp/B0009ZGJ0Q

If you want plastic Trek ships I'd recommend the Star Trek: Attack Wing models. The game was garbage so you can get them for a song if you look around.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

twistedmentat posted:

A classic Space Man minifig was a central character in the Lego Movie, they're not ignoring it.

When I was a kid, I built Star Trek legos all the time, Ships. the best I came up with was a decent Reliant.

Oddly the Space theme I had from the mid 90's had little TNG style rank pips printed on it's minifig's torsos

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Watching this Voyager marathon makes me long for an alternate opening credits sequence.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96eweKcVJgg

Gonz fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jan 3, 2017

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
"Harry Kim: An Erotic Life"
"The Crew Gives Janeway an Intervention"
"The N.E.E.L.I.X. System"

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Sandrine's: The Worst Bar in Marseille
Chakotay McParis: The Game of Games
The TNG Writing Staff Recycles Their Trash

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






"Seven Got Molested"
"Chakotay Goes Maquis All Over Everybody's rear end"
"Tuvok Is A Serial Killer"
"The Crew Solves the Antimatter Crisis"

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I've always wanted a sort of lego Star Trek ships kitbash set. A collection of saucers and nacelles and rollbars and whatnot so you can make new ships.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

The_Doctor posted:

I've always wanted a sort of lego Star Trek ships kitbash set. A collection of saucers and nacelles and rollbars and whatnot so you can make new ships.
Boy do I have the video "game" for you!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Starship_Creator
It's worth at least 20 minutes of entertainment.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

Knormal posted:

Boy do I have the video "game" for you!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Starship_Creator
It's worth at least 20 minutes of entertainment.

I begged my parents to get that for me for Christmas, and boy was I disappointed af.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Knormal posted:

Boy do I have the video "game" for you!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Starship_Creator
It's worth at least 20 minutes of entertainment.

Yeah but physical. I wanna swoosh those ships.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I bought both the original and the expansion one back in the day. It's barely a game.

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture

Jago posted:

http://www.howtogeek.com/115656/3-ways-to-normalize-sound-volume-on-your-pc/

You don't really want your sound normalized all the time, but it's possible in a few different ways in windows. Same with certain tv's and stereos.

I don't think that'll help. Normalization really just amplifies everything, which can help (in a really clumsy way) to even out audio from disparate sources, but it won't affect the internal dynamics of a single stream, like the audio from Star Trek. Like, it would help if you find that a certain application has really quiet output that makes you reach for the volume knob a lot.

Something more along the lines of a compressor might help, but that's getting into fiddly territory. What you really want is better sound mixing to begin with!

For some reason, when I use Fios on-demand stuff, it uses this insane compression that ducks way down whenever things get loud in an attempt to prevent this problem. Quiet dialog scenes are nicely audible, but when the music goes big and stuff starts blowing up, it gets really quiet. It's too extreme, but you could simulate a more gentle version of that with a compressor. But, like, unless you're watching on a PC where you can do that in software, it's too big a pain in the rear end for most home theater setups anyway.

So that's a lot of words that won't help anyone.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

It really all begins and ends with "Tom Fucks A Shuttle"

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Big Mean Jerk posted:

So I'm reading through The 50 Year Mission and I got to the "My idea of pleasure is waves and waves of cum exploding out of me" Gene quote, but no one in this thread mentioned that he said it in an Irish accent while high as poo poo on the phone. I feel like this should definitely be common knowledge.

I get the feeling that Gene just wanted to do a porn show because the show had a lot of bizarre raunchy stuff in it in s1, the most Gene of TNG's seasons.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Panzeh posted:

I get the feeling that Gene just wanted to do a porn show because the show had a lot of bizarre raunchy stuff in it in s1, the most Gene of TNG's seasons.

After listening to that book, I would say you are correct. Dude was way into the creepy sex guy gimmick.

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004
I'm sad Gene died before he could have pitched a show to HBO.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

MorgaineDax posted:

I'm sad Gene died before he could have pitched a show to HBO.

I feel like even HBO would go "Okay Gene, what else besides the sex stuff?"

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Those This Ain't Star Trek XXX parodies from a few years back are probably the closest we'll ever come to *~Gene's True Vision~*.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Panzeh posted:

I get the feeling that Gene just wanted to do a porn show because the show had a lot of bizarre raunchy stuff in it in s1, the most Gene of TNG's seasons.

Probably.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


The point frequently made in the books by people who are not entrenched Great Bird of the Galaxy adherents is that Gene had little or no success working with studios or television networks on anything other than Star Trek after the point it was introduced. This was for a few reasons:

1) Gene wrote gob-smackingly terrible movie scripts/story concepts for Star Trek. It wasn't just the kinky sex stuff, although that was horrible. His concepts for the movies were generally awful and/or hilariously unworkable in a "that'll be the end of the whole franchise" way. Various ideas included:

- Kirk getting into a fist-fight with Jesus on the bridge. Depending on the treatment, this was either Really Jesus or an entity who serves as an intergalactic messiah for everyone, including Earth, but is now malfunctioning. In other words, Jesus is at best a bit of a fraud, breaks, and Kirk has to set it straight.

- The other whopper I've read so far is Kirk becoming frienemies with JFK and re-doing the end of City on the Edge of Forever with him (as TMP and early TNG tell us, Gene loved re-hashes of the same 4-5 story concepts).

2) Gene meddled with scripts incessantly on every Star Trek project he ever worked on, which drove pretty much everybody with any real-world knowledge of how these things should work absolutely nuts.

3) Gene was a passive aggressive poo poo and became more difficult to work with the more control he had. Everyone with a difference of opinion on a story element had to go to war with him.

4) Some of Gene's work on other projects in the early-to-mid-70s was considered to have potential, but Gene's behavior and reputation was such that without the Star Trek IP, there was no incentive to play ball with him.

5) TOS is rather sexist even for the time period and has some definite and infamous low points in that regard. Weird sex poo poo seems to get into Gene's Star Trek from time to time, and it would be worse if he had no filter. But if you listened to Gene talk or write about Star Trek, he is always the adult in the room protecting the Brand, trying to gently steer the IP towards good storytelling. Problem is, Gene is not that good of a writer.

Don't get me wrong: Personally I would pay good money to watch William Shatner fist-fight Jesus.

Name Change fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jan 3, 2017

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Gene's contribution to Star Trek is pretty much the initial idea and that's it. Everything else we would consider iconic about Star Trek came from other people.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.


Plot summary:

The story is set in "Oceanfront High School," a fictitious American high school in the height of the SEXUAL REVOLUTION. Young female students are being targeted by an unknown serial killer. Meanwhile, a male student called Ponce is experiencing SEXUAL FRUSTRATION, surrounded by a seemingly unending stream of beautiful and SEXUALLY PROVOCATIVE classmates.

Michael "Tiger" McDrew (Hudson) is the high school's football coach and guidance counselor, but there is another aspect of Tiger's character; he has participated in a number of SEXUAL ENCOUNTERS with female students. Tiger tries to befriend Ponce and help him deal with his SEXUAL NEEDS by encouraging him to seek the affections of a SEXY SUBSTITUTE TEACHER , Miss Betty Smith (Dickinson).

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Roddenberry's only not-trek movie was a 'sexploitation' film, whatever that is. The only reason I even heard of it is that Quinton Tarantino is a huge fan.

e: beaten like -

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


GENE RODDENBERRY'S ANDROMEDA

which probably would be great if they reboot it in a gritty BSG style without Sorbo

Earth: Final Conflict, too.

FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jan 4, 2017

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Zurui posted:

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Machines-Star-Limited-Collectors/dp/B0009ZGJ0Q

If you want plastic Trek ships I'd recommend the Star Trek: Attack Wing models. The game was garbage so you can get them for a song if you look around.

Man, in 96 those went for 25bux.

And I'd love a It's Always Sunny In the Delta Quadrant for Voyager. I love the flat statement joke of the It's Always Sunny episode titles.

Wasn't Andromeda supposed to be based on the post Federation galaxy? I'd love to see a what would basically be a post apocalyptic Trek show, though Dylan Hunt sounds like a porn star.

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