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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

GoutPatrol posted:

I've seen enough kids not wearing helmets on scooters to know this is true

Almost all of my girlfriends in Thailand had a story about the time dad was drunk and driving them around on a scooter and they crashed.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Fojar38 posted:

I don't really have one because I'm not sure how you can quantify badness beyond saying "Yep, that person is bad." K/D ratio?

Yeah same. Mao is really really bad but to be fair he had the biggest country in the world to gently caress up so the sheer volume of his fuckup is related to that. Also a lot of Mao's crimes were stupendous idiocy rather than deciding "hey let's kill 20 million people".

Pol Pot intentionally murdered like 1/3 of Cambodia in just a couple years.

Sheep-Goats posted:

Almost all of my girlfriends in Thailand had a story about the time dad was drunk and driving them around on a scooter and they crashed.

Everyone I knew in Korea had a story about almost choking to death on bones as a kid but didn't see the value of removing tiny bones from chicken and fish before serving it.

One of the biggest mind blowing things I ever did for a Korean friend was show her how to fillet a fish. She literally did not believe it was possible to remove the bones from a fish and I won ten bucks.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Grand Fromage posted:


One of the biggest mind blowing things I ever did for a Korean friend was show her how to fillet a fish. She literally did not believe it was possible to remove the bones from a fish and I won ten bucks.

Wait she never had sushi before?

Oh right, Gimbap is loving ghetto. What a broke rear end country

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

LentThem posted:

Kids are precious

Just kidding who gives a poo poo about kids



Nice "crumple zone".

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


caberham posted:

Wait she never had sushi before?

Oh right, Gimbap is loving ghetto. What a broke rear end country

Korean sashimi comes with bones in it, at least where I lived. I've asked a couple Korean chefs about that and they both told me it's too much trouble to remove the bones. And with triggerfish specifically crunching the bones is apparently part of the deal. Koreans generally like sashimi in full rigor mortis or still half frozen so it's chewy. If she's had Japanese sashimi it probably just didn't occur to her to think about the lack of bones.

Gimbap is good though.

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
somebody post awesome wechat stickers


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Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Grand Fromage posted:

Korean sashimi comes with bones in it, at least where I lived. I've asked a couple Korean chefs about that and they both told me it's too much trouble to remove the bones. And with triggerfish specifically crunching the bones is apparently part of the deal. Koreans generally like sashimi in full rigor mortis or still half frozen so it's chewy. If she's had Japanese sashimi it probably just didn't occur to her to think about the lack of bones.

I feel like I never really got the Korea hate until I read this post.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

the only thing worse than mao is korea

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Stringent posted:

I feel like I never really got the Korea hate until I read this post.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Sheep-Goats posted:

Almost all of my girlfriends in Thailand had a story about the time dad was drunk and driving them around on a scooter and they crashed.

i never rode a scooter before thailand and i went a little too fast on a lovely dirt road and ran into a pothole. wasnt drunk tho

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

basic hitler posted:

Imo mao was bad and did nothing good

the official CCP stance is 30% bad 70% good. I always thought it was weird they had that as an official thing.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
Hm, let's see what Shanghainese youth think about black people.

Ew that black guy is sitting in one of the reserved seats, it's rude but also I'm uncomfortable to be near him - how can I make him leave?



Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/costly-crash-lamborghini-and-ferrari-collide-in-massey-tunnel-1.3206987

quote:

Costly crash: Lamborghini and Ferrari collide in Massey Tunnel

...
Officers described the drivers -- males in their 20s -- as inexperienced. Both of the vehicles displayed novice driver stickers, but police said only one of the drivers was a novice. The other had a Class 5 licence.

What's left out, according to reddit, is that they were both Chinese kids.

EDIT:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/5lqgf1/the_chinese_international_student_starter_pack/

This thread has some hate against tuhao international students.

Haier fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jan 4, 2017

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Grand Fromage posted:

Korean sashimi comes with bones in it, at least where I lived. I've asked a couple Korean chefs about that and they both told me it's too much trouble to remove the bones. And with triggerfish specifically crunching the bones is apparently part of the deal. Koreans generally like sashimi in full rigor mortis or still half frozen so it's chewy. If she's had Japanese sashimi it probably just didn't occur to her to think about the lack of bones.

Gimbap is good though.

The "pepper peeker" girls and I used to frequent a Korean sashimi place that must have been owned by a Weeaboo since everything was served Japanese style, plus the décor seemed like it was trying to be Japanese, but a little off somehow. There was also a big nori-bang setup in the middle of the room, so you could enjoy drunk salarymen blaring the Wonder Girls or Rain while you were trying to eat. It was just a little ways from the Jihaeng Station in Dongducheon. We would always get the "king plate" with ~80 pieces of different fish, squid, shrimp, etc. for about 70k won, which was a really good deal considering it was a feat for us to be able to finish it off given that it came with a ton of sides. The really nice thing about this place was that it was Japanese enough that you didn't have to worry about blockhead Korean guys coming in, so we could enjoy our meal and nori-bang sessions without someone approaching them and warning that "the wayguk was no good"!

Jeoh posted:

the only thing worse than mao is korea

:mad: But Jeoh you really are the loving worst. Your heart is as vile as a meth lab in some trashy trailer. just kidding

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
From the reddit thread in my last post. This is so true for all of the Chinese I had class with in university.

quote:

There was a senior that I was stuck in a group with. Super easy class, just writing based. One day we had to read a scientific paper of our choosing and write a one page response. We had about two hours, ample time considering we knew the professor wouldn't be reading or grading these anyway, and this kid simply could not finish the assignment. After 4 years in America, in an engineering school as an engineering major, he couldn't write 3 paragraphs about a paper within his field.

Later that semester, we had to compare 3 companies, one for each group member, and we chose some big consumer packaged goods companies, like nestle. Once again, this kid couldn't write 3 paragraphs. I literally had to write them for him because I didn't want my grade negatively impacted.

For the final paper, we had to write 20 pages on CPG. I wrote like 17 of those pages and when I went to proofread his 2 paragraphs, it was barely English. I can appreciate that learning another language is hard, but I didn't start learning Spanish until 7th grade and was writing more cohesive sentences in 9th grade after 45min/day classes during the school year. This guy was supposed to be completely immersed in the culture and language and couldn't write about products that P&G produced.

I'm a little bitter.

quote:

I'm an American PhD student working in a lab in the US. About 90% of my colleagues in my lab are Chinese. This is right on the money.
The whole "don't interact with non-chinese" is real and seriously problematic when most of the people you have to work with are Chinese.

Haier fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jan 4, 2017

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Blistex posted:

:mad: But Jeoh you really are the loving worst. Your heart is as vile as a meth lab in some trashy trailer.

Jeoh makes Geert Wilders proud

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

caberham posted:

Oh right, Gimbap is loving ghetto. What a broke rear end country

I believe the word you are looking for is juche

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Haier posted:

From the reddit thread in my last post. This is so true for all of the Chinese I had class with in university.

But many of them try really hard NOT to immerse themselves in foreign culture.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

nickmeister posted:

But many of them try really hard NOT to immerse themselves in foreign culture.
It's very simple, actually. We are still the foreigners no matter where we are or where they are.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Magna Kaser posted:

the official CCP stance is 30% bad 70% good. I always thought it was weird they had that as an official thing.

He is the foundation of the CCP so they can't throw him under the bus like everyone else. So they make up dumb poo poo like this or blame the Gang of 4 so that the rest of the party who are equally as dumb and at fault get shielded.

Imagine if the U.S government's base of power is still predicated on the corpse of George Washington.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

nickmeister posted:

But many of them try really hard NOT to immerse themselves in foreign culture.

When I went to high school we had a Korean student (a grade under me) that was there for a school year-long home stay. The family (they had a son the same age as him) took him all over the place and he did a lot of things that he couldn't do in Korea. ATV and snowmobile riding, going to parties, having free time to hang out with friends in town, sleepovers, etc. He socialized and joined the basketball team and even joined the yearbook committee, and I think he might have had a girlfriend. They went to Toronto and loaded up on a lot of Korean foods that he introduced them to, but for the most part he just ate whatever they were having. The two boys were almost inseparable, and kept in touch after he went home.

The next year the family got a guy from Southern China who was the complete opposite. Since there were no foreign-born Chinese students in the school he made no effort to make any friends. He approached and tried to make friends with a 1/2 Chinese girl who was born here, but he creeped her out because he could literally not stop checking out her breasts (she was unusually stacked and eventually got a breast reduction). He had no friends (despite getting frequent invites to parties and social events), never talked to anyone in school, and basically lived in his room playing Diablo II 24/7. The homestay family's son tried to get him out of the house repeatedly, but the Chinese student made it clear that he didn't want to be friends with him. The homestay family took him to Toronto to get Chinese groceries, and he convinced them to buy upwards of $300 worth of foodstuffs (most of it instant noodles). For the remaining 8 months he lived on Chinese Ramen noodles and whenever they went out to eat he always insisted that they go to the Chinese buffet. I'm pretty sure when he went home he had a case of mild malnutrition due to his diet and never exercising.

As a teacher I've seen these two scenarios happen several times. The Korean guys always do very well, and the Korean and Chinese girls usually do amazingly well on all fronts and end up being really popular with everyone as they are usually outgoing, smart, and cute. Chinese guys 100% always go full antisocial and either convince their parents to bring them back early or literally lock themselves in their rooms and only come out if they have to.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Blistex posted:

When I went to high school we had a Korean student (a grade under me) that was there for a school year-long home stay. The family (they had a son the same age as him) took him all over the place and he did a lot of things that he couldn't do in Korea. ATV and snowmobile riding, going to parties, having free time to hang out with friends in town, sleepovers, etc. He socialized and joined the basketball team and even joined the yearbook committee, and I think he might have had a girlfriend. They went to Toronto and loaded up on a lot of Korean foods that he introduced them to, but for the most part he just ate whatever they were having. The two boys were almost inseparable, and kept in touch after he went home.

The next year the family got a guy from Southern China who was the complete opposite. Since there were no foreign-born Chinese students in the school he made no effort to make any friends. He approached and tried to make friends with a 1/2 Chinese girl who was born here, but he creeped her out because he could literally not stop checking out her breasts (she was unusually stacked and eventually got a breast reduction). He had no friends (despite getting frequent invites to parties and social events), never talked to anyone in school, and basically lived in his room playing Diablo II 24/7. The homestay family's son tried to get him out of the house repeatedly, but the Chinese student made it clear that he didn't want to be friends with him. The homestay family took him to Toronto to get Chinese groceries, and he convinced them to buy upwards of $300 worth of foodstuffs (most of it instant noodles). For the remaining 8 months he lived on Chinese Ramen noodles and whenever they went out to eat he always insisted that they go to the Chinese buffet. I'm pretty sure when he went home he had a case of mild malnutrition due to his diet and never exercising.

As a teacher I've seen these two scenarios happen several times. The Korean guys always do very well, and the Korean and Chinese girls usually do amazingly well on all fronts and end up being really popular with everyone as they are usually outgoing, smart, and cute. Chinese guys 100% always go full antisocial and either convince their parents to bring them back early or literally lock themselves in their rooms and only come out if they have to.

The school I went to had a sizable Korean minority. While they did hang out with each other and speak Korean, many of them also spoke English reasonably well and had non-Korean friends. I wonder what in their respective cultures affects their attitudes so much? I can make a guess at mainland Chinese, but I know little about Korean culture.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:
Here's some interesting stuff. Apparently there were Chinese enlisted soldiers in the Civil War. Relevant stuff for this thread: some were in the US because their dads sold them into servitude, after serving in the army for decades they got denied citizenship, and one guy who by a fluke actually got American citizenship had it taken away from him because someone got suspicious at how he would show up to vote on polling day. I was unaware that you could strip someone's American citizenship; is it a post-WWII thing to prevent the recurrence of stateless people?

http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/article/1270170/gettysburg-redress



Pictured: Joseph Pierce, from Guangzhou.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Blistex posted:

Chinese guys 100% always go full antisocial and either convince their parents to bring them back early or literally lock themselves in their rooms and only come out if they have to.

This has been my experience too. HK kids fine, Taiwan fine, Korea fine, the very rare Japanese dude (japanese international students seem to be 99% ladies) also fine. Mainland chinese guys? Full on anti-social often with simmering rage and resentment at being surrounded by horrible confusing foreigners.

Is it something to do with face culture that they're too scared of possibly losing face in any sort of interaction in a language they aren't confident in and a culture they don't totally understand?

E_P
Feb 22, 2003

Grand Fromage posted:

Korean sashimi comes with bones in it, at least where I lived. I've asked a couple Korean chefs about that and they both told me it's too much trouble to remove the bones. And with triggerfish specifically crunching the bones is apparently part of the deal. Koreans generally like sashimi in full rigor mortis or still half frozen so it's chewy. If she's had Japanese sashimi it probably just didn't occur to her to think about the lack of bones.

Gimbap is good though.
Check it out this dork couldnt afford good sashimi in Korea.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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If I had to guess I'd say it's because they've been having xenophobia taught to them for their whole lives up to that point.

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

Haier posted:

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/costly-crash-lamborghini-and-ferrari-collide-in-massey-tunnel-1.3206987


What's left out, according to reddit, is that they were both Chinese kids.

EDIT:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/5lqgf1/the_chinese_international_student_starter_pack/

This thread has some hate against tuhao international students.

Driving across the Georgia Viaduct in Vancouver today I passed a Tesla covered in snow with its side view mirrors still folded in. The snow covered the back window, and rear passenger windows.

I gave it a lot of space.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fojar38 posted:

If I had to guess I'd say it's because they've been having xenophobia taught to them for their whole lives up to that point.

Also their upbringings as "little emperors" might have something to do with it. Girls in China have the same cultural upbringings, but are not taught that the entire world has been created to serve their every need, so they have the ability to adapt instead of being pouty little twats who go into a seething rage every time something is not how they want it.

This is really apparent from an early age when you can see countless videos of Chinese children being very disrespectful (hitting their mothers/grandmothers, etc,) and they are 99.99% boys.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


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I love you all
At my university, it was the Korean students (male and female) who hung together at all times and refused to speak to their randomly assigned, non-Korean roommates. I'm still friends with the Japanese exchange student who decided to join a bridge club and became besties with a friend of mine who started bringing her to social events. She was thoroughly confused by Rocky Horror night, but she was a good sport about it.

the heat goes wrong
Dec 31, 2005
I´m watching you...

LentThem posted:

Kids are precious

Just kidding who gives a poo poo about kids



Whats so horrible sbout having kids on a bike? :confused:
Sometime the kindergarten is too far to walk there all the time.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

the heat goes wrong posted:

Whats so horrible sbout having kids on a bike? :confused:
Sometime the kindergarten is too far to walk there all the time.



Newton's first law.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

the heat goes wrong posted:

Whats so horrible sbout having kids on a bike? :confused:
Sometime the kindergarten is too far to walk there all the time.



The kid in the first photo is sitting in a basket, not a seat

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

nickmeister posted:

But many of them try really hard NOT to immerse themselves in foreign culture.

This isn't really a chinese issue as much as a going to a different culture thing, and international students are always crappy at socializing if they have a more similar group to attach to. The number of Chinese students at like every US uni is huge now cuz they all want that sweet international student money so the problem gets compounded.

I studied abroad in Asia a couple times as an undergrad and most of the european/north americans who spoke English decently, myself included, formed little cliques and p much never talked to any locals and lived in a small space between the dorms and the nearby (mainly expat) bars. We lived in Taipei for like 6 months and everyone in our class socialized with only the other English speaking European or north American students, and no one socialized with any local Taiwanese college kids despite the faculty really trying to get us to.

I don't think any of us knew any Taiwanese people despite all that time there. One kid from Spain remarked his English improved way more than his Chinese during his time in Taiwan.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

the heat goes wrong posted:

Whats so horrible sbout having kids on a bike? :confused:
Sometime the kindergarten is too far to walk there all the time.



I too want my kids to suffer TBI rather than bother with helmets.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

LentThem posted:

Hm, let's see what Shanghainese youth think about black people.

Ew that black guy is sitting in one of the reserved seats, it's rude but also I'm uncomfortable to be near him - how can I make him leave?





Are there not priority seats on both sides of the car? Is the other person old or disabled or something? There's a black China vlogger I like to watch who has mentioned that people only seem to care about priority seating when they see him using it, LOL.


Imperialist Dog posted:

Here's some interesting stuff. Apparently there were Chinese enlisted soldiers in the Civil War. Relevant stuff for this thread: some were in the US because their dads sold them into servitude, after serving in the army for decades they got denied citizenship, and one guy who by a fluke actually got American citizenship had it taken away from him because someone got suspicious at how he would show up to vote on polling day. I was unaware that you could strip someone's American citizenship; is it a post-WWII thing to prevent the recurrence of stateless people?

http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/article/1270170/gettysburg-redress



Pictured: Joseph Pierce, from Guangzhou.

VEEERY interesting. Thanks for posting this!

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
My usual India de-rail:

I saw this on a news site. (I believe) Two of the victims in the Turkey nightclub attack a few days ago were Indian. One of the bodies returned to India today:



They got her just like common luggage. Indians love to wrap their luggage in cellophane. Is this a common practice for remains?. It was an actual coffin, too, but look how small it is. I don't know if she was blown up, but drat.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Magna Kaser posted:

This isn't really a chinese issue as much as a going to a different culture thing, and international students are always crappy at socializing if they have a more similar group to attach to. The number of Chinese students at like every US uni is huge now cuz they all want that sweet international student money so the problem gets compounded.

I studied abroad in Asia a couple times as an undergrad and most of the european/north americans who spoke English decently, myself included, formed little cliques and p much never talked to any locals and lived in a small space between the dorms and the nearby (mainly expat) bars. We lived in Taipei for like 6 months and everyone in our class socialized with only the other English speaking European or north American students, and no one socialized with any local Taiwanese college kids despite the faculty really trying to get us to.

I don't think any of us knew any Taiwanese people despite all that time there. One kid from Spain remarked his English improved way more than his Chinese during his time in Taiwan.

I'm really glad I didn't go to Taipei. Can't really say I have any Taiwanese friends, but I have plenty of acquaintances and very rarely get dragged into English conversation.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Haier posted:

My usual India de-rail:

I saw this on a news site. (I believe) Two of the victims in the Turkey nightclub attack a few days ago were Indian. One of the bodies returned to India today:



They got her just like common luggage. Indians love to wrap their luggage in cellophane. Is this a common practice for remains?. It was an actual coffin, too, but look how small it is. I don't know if she was blown up, but drat.

You're looking down the lenght.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

nickmeister posted:

I'm really glad I didn't go to Taipei. Can't really say I have any Taiwanese friends, but I have plenty of acquaintances and very rarely get dragged into English conversation.

It's not Taipei as much as a group thing. If there's a group of more culturally relatable people with less of a language barrier most people aren't going to branch out because it's more work and more awkward.

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Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


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I love you all

Magna Kaser posted:

It's not Taipei as much as a group thing. If there's a group of more culturally relatable people with less of a language barrier most people aren't going to branch out because it's more work and more awkward.

My buddy did his study abroad in Taichung I think. He said he spent most of it in a 酒店.

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