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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

i guess 125k is means-tested, but 90% of people fall below it so i don't think it's exactly like other means tested programs.

Why should the top ten percent of people not be entitled to programs funded with their tax dollars, is going to be the obvious line of attack. And unlike most other reactionary arguments it's got a good point.

Also, why should we be setting up public programs that encourage class segregation in higher learning?

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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Why should the top ten percent of people not be entitled to programs funded with their tax dollars, is going to be the obvious line of attack.

you missed the second part of cuomo's program, in which everyone who makes over 125k faces the guillotine

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
$125k at the household level can mean two parents each working $62.5k jobs. That's gonna eat substantially into the middle class.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

you missed the second part of cuomo's program, in which everyone who makes over 125k faces the guillotine

Pretty honorable to send himself to the block, imo.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

GalacticAcid posted:

$125k at the household level can mean two parents each working $62.5k jobs. That's gonna eat substantially into the middle class.

lol middle class continues to have no meaning

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Tatum Girlparts posted:

lol middle class continues to have no meaning

What definition would exclude a parent making $63 a year?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Tatum Girlparts posted:

lol middle class continues to have no meaning

this implies it at one point had meaning

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Tatum Girlparts posted:

lol middle class continues to have no meaning

Yeah, it doesn't. Especially with income disparity where 62k can mean you're basically made in one place and completely poo poo in the other. Median household in NY is between 60-65K, but you're looking at over 70K in parts of NYC.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Would I be safe in assuming that the proposed upper limit for this college plan does not have a scheme to adjust it higher in later years to account for inflation?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Mark Zuckerberg's 2017 Plan To Visit All US States Hints At Political Ambitions

loving shoot me

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

GalacticAcid posted:

$125k at the household level can mean two parents each working $62.5k jobs. That's gonna eat substantially into the middle class.

lol manhattan middle class

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

someone with access to that kinda info is legitimately scary tbh

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

GalacticAcid posted:

$125k at the household level can mean two parents each working $62.5k jobs. That's gonna eat substantially into the middle class.

the median household income in the us is like 50k a year

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
If Zuckerberg was the Dem candidate I would vote third party, mostly to prevent skynet.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Just let the 1% take advantage of all these programs, they're literally 1% of the population. Means testing is so loving dumb.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Totally forgot that Manhattan isn't in New York State.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
how about we have progressive taxes that fund things which benefit the public and then we give the public equal access to the things idk maybe thats crazy maybe its better for working people who earn somewhat more money to be forever embittered against working people who earn somewhat less money

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
%1 should ahve access to these programs and, in fact, should be encouraged to send their kids to interact with normal-rear end human beings instead of other chinless yacht-jockeys with names like Clive

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
look, Wensleydale Jr., note that the common people are actual human beings and not, in fact, crude simulacra of human beings as you have been led to believe

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
ban private schools, or take away all their accreditation

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
and also, private hospitals; in fact, private everything

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Ban private property imo

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

GalacticAcid posted:

Ban private property imo

that'd be super good

once everyone realizes the diff between private and petty property

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

paranoid randroid posted:

look, Wensleydale Jr., note that the common people are actual human beings and not, in fact, crude simulacra of human beings as you have been led to believe

if they're real people then where's their personal limo

checkmate

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

It'll never happen but I really, really want to see this thread react to a "@SenSanders would have won. - H" tweet.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Nationalize all utilities including internet.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Ace of Baes posted:

Nationalize all utilities including internet.

logikv9 posted:

ban private schools, or take away all their accreditation

I legitimately think these are good ideas.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

These ideas are all good... but are they realistic?

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
idk once somebody takes my copyrighted forums idea and tries to implement it we will see!!

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

docbeard posted:

It'll never happen but I really, really want to see this thread react to a "@SenSanders would have won. - H" tweet.

i'd be ecstatic

finally, russian hackers dumb enough to leave a trace

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

that'd be super good

once everyone realizes the diff between private and petty property

Give us the loving toothbrush

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Maybe Russia hacked the votes to make Hillary lose so that most American left leaners become more radicalized by Bernie and eventually move toward Communism. In the long run, this will result in America becoming an hammer and sickle country.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
but russia is a hypercapitalist state

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
Seize the means of production. Yes, yes!!! :twisted:

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
alternatively, this is the longest "all according to plan" in history. thanks stalin

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
its the most cunningly Russian thing since Brusilov momentarily unfucked the eastern front

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

logikv9 posted:

but russia is a hypercapitalist state

Are you sure?

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Oh it will happen! Trump proved any billionaire with half an ounce of ambition has a shot at the presidency. Buckle up kids, it's about to be a bumpy ride!

We the senate and congress, have been steadily and loyally hiding this fact for decades. Your government folks, is standing on nothing!

It has been standing on nothing, and there really hasn't been a time since its inception, that it hasn't been hobbling forward on people's naive hopes and dreams. Welcome to reality folks! Strap in!

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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
yo if youre gonna roll with this Lindsey Graham gimmick ya need to incorporate more magnolia blossom into your act, feel me

need a touch of the ol Faulknerian dark wooden drawing rooms and faded dowagers with lace at their wrists and kudzu wrapping the gables outside the window

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