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Well, fluff wise... Yu-Jing is controlled by the monolithic and omnipresent Party, nominally controlled by a dueling dynastic pair of imperial families. Favored models include brainwashed suicide bomber political prisoners named after hopping vampires, a robot lion that transforms into a robot... robot, and robot geisha. So... not certain if racist or trope-y?
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 13:03 |
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There is also something that annoys me, and I don't think is done out of malice so much as not really being aware, but a lot of games (including my beloved Malifaux) also tend towards having an asian conglomerate. Its the "asian" faction, mixing any and all stereotypes, cultural assets, names of a vast array of different peoples and cultures, in a way that basically serves to create a homogenized, monolithic "other". Yes there are fluff reasons for these, but it doesn't change the fact its a very orientalist, western view. I like these games, but it is a very annoying tendency. Also the really lazy google translate naming. There's a Malifaux character whose name is literally HATRED DARKNESS
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 13:28 |
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Infinity had Tech-Coolies which had to get changed to to Tech-Bees, that's a sexualised mini for ya. Great game though if you don't get some fan service poo poo get in the wayCinnamon Bear posted:Yes there are fluff reasons for these, but it doesn't change the fact its a very orientalist, western view.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 15:42 |
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those robots aint got no legs
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 15:48 |
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Moola posted:those robots aint got no legs Please do not body-shame.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 16:07 |
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Cinnamon Bear posted:There is also something that annoys me, and I don't think is done out of malice so much as not really being aware, but a lot of games (including my beloved Malifaux) also tend towards having an asian conglomerate. Its the "asian" faction, mixing any and all stereotypes, cultural assets, names of a vast array of different peoples and cultures, in a way that basically serves to create a homogenized, monolithic "other". Yes there are fluff reasons for these, but it doesn't change the fact its a very orientalist, western view. TBF, that is what the Chinese part of the faction want it to be. They, much like the modern China, want to impose their culture on the other Asian countries that have joined (or been assimilated into) Yu Jing.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 16:32 |
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Flipswitch posted:Infinity had Tech-Coolies which had to get changed to to Tech-Bees, that's a sexualised mini for ya. Great game though if you don't get some fan service poo poo get in the way The issue with this one and the line it belongs to was it was supposed to be pin up style stuff and allow the sculptors the freedom to make what they wanted. It doesn't officially represent any unit that sees the tabletop but now they're releasing an actual unit model dressed exactly like that and it's extraordinarily shameful.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 16:33 |
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adhuin posted:Please do not body-shame. how he move?!?!?
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 17:28 |
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Just like Loaderbot after he loses his legs to the bounty hunters in Borderlands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZxCTSTLYBk Cinnamon Bear fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Cat Face Joe posted:The issue with this one and the line it belongs to was it was supposed to be pin up style stuff and allow the sculptors the freedom to make what they wanted. It doesn't officially represent any unit that sees the tabletop but now they're releasing an actual unit model dressed exactly like that and it's extraordinarily shameful. Same with the YJ TAG pilot if my memory serves correctly. Corvus Belli is a company that takes several strides forwards, and then just can't hold in their need to sculpt some cheesecake. Then they release a mega-thong and go back to being chill for a few months. Rinse, repeat. I mean, I get that everyone is wearing form fitting body armour because fashion in most sci-fi settings is either body gloves, or some sort of Baroque-Renaissance poo poo, but no one should be wearing battle heels, with tacti-thong. I don't get the body glove thing in many sci-fi settings though. Sure, yoga pants and Under Armour are extremely popular right now, but is the future really going to be some sort of Spandex Utopia?
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Cat Face Joe posted:The issue with this one and the line it belongs to was it was supposed to be pin up style stuff and allow the sculptors the freedom to make what they wanted. It doesn't officially represent any unit that sees the tabletop but now they're releasing an actual unit model dressed exactly like that and it's extraordinarily shameful. The dude that makes Kingdom Death defended their pinup models with "well, I have to keep my sculptors happy, and that means letting them sculpt what they want and they want to sculpt titties." Between that and Corvus Belli apparently having the same issues, I'm starting to get skeeved out by mini sculptors in general.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 19:15 |
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This is my infinity
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 19:27 |
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Moola posted:how he move?!?!? Cat Face Joe posted:The issue with this one and the line it belongs to was it was supposed to be pin up style stuff and allow the sculptors the freedom to make what they wanted. It doesn't officially represent any unit that sees the tabletop but now they're releasing an actual unit model dressed exactly like that and it's extraordinarily shameful.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 22:48 |
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Notahippie posted:The dude that makes Kingdom Death defended their pinup models with "well, I have to keep my sculptors happy, and that means letting them sculpt what they want and they want to sculpt titties." Between that and Corvus Belli apparently having the same issues, I'm starting to get skeeved out by mini sculptors in general. Perry's now, Perry's then, Perry's forever.
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# ? Jan 3, 2017 23:38 |
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Notahippie posted:The dude that makes Kingdom Death defended their pinup models with "well, I have to keep my sculptors happy, and that means letting them sculpt what they want and they want to sculpt titties." Between that and Corvus Belli apparently having the same issues, I'm starting to get skeeved out by mini sculptors in general. It's my opinion that 95% of artists are perverts. The other 5% make perverted things at some point because they sell. It's turtles all the way down. And the turtles are having sex.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 00:13 |
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good for the turtles, imo
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 00:41 |
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/03/warhammer-world-new-years-open-day/ Saw on FB. Looks like they really changed stances (heh) on the goofy tau hooves despite having a great vision the first time.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 01:34 |
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Notahippie posted:The dude that makes Kingdom Death defended their pinup models with "well, I have to keep my sculptors happy, and that means letting them sculpt what they want and they want to sculpt titties." Between that and Corvus Belli apparently having the same issues, I'm starting to get skeeved out by mini sculptors in general.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 01:37 |
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i jerk off to 25mm pewter boobs
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 04:21 |
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Perry's now, Perry's then, Perry's forever. I feel I want this made into a banner
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 04:34 |
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I was painting up some of my new plastic Enforcers for Deadzone and my wife looked at a couple of was shocked to realize that they were women and the only way you could tell was because of the face and hair. She considered this a nice change of pace compared to the Ral Partha fairies I was doing on commission which were the tittiest, assiest models I've ever done.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 04:38 |
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I have the tech bees model but I wish it was a buff dude showcasing it since it would be a perfect mecha representation of a Jojo Stand. As it is, i don't know when I'll ever assemble and paint it.Sir Teabag posted:is the future really going to be some sort of Spandex Utopia?
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 04:47 |
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Perry's now, Perry's then, Perry's forever. I hope you like historicals, because that's all there is on the menu.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 04:59 |
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adhuin posted:I hope you like historicals, because that's all there is on the menu. Have you heard of our lord and savior Kings of War?
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 05:35 |
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fnordcircle posted:Have you heard of our lord and savior Kings of War? To be fair they're still historical models, they can just be used in Kings of War with little hassle.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 07:00 |
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Sir Teabag posted:Same with the YJ TAG pilot if my memory serves correctly. Zero g calls for compression undies, yo.
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adhuin posted:I hope you like historicals, because that's all there is on the menu. Yes and?
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 10:23 |
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adhuin posted:I hope you like historicals, because that's all there is on the menu. Someone link me a well-made WHFB Empire army made from historical minis, preferably without heroic scale and new-edition magical snowflake poo poo.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 13:37 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Zero g calls for compression undies, yo. George Lucas posted:There is no underwear in space.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 13:43 |
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Pierzak posted:Someone link me a well-made WHFB Empire army made from historical minis, preferably without heroic scale and new-edition magical snowflake poo poo. Dan over on the 9th Age forums uses almost exclusively historicals for his Iron Crowns (Dogs of War equivalent) army. Here's a link to his army log: Link
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 14:18 |
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Panzeh posted:I kinda like Mantic's enforcers because they play into a more modern elite motif and emphasize mobility over 'has the biggest gun and the heaviest armor'(that's the forgefathers in their setting). I like them because their background fluff has a number of subtle and not-subtle digs at space marines. The biggest general one being the periodic tendency of crazy body and mind modifying technology to go off the rails. Less in a tragic "we are now vampires who are full of angsty rage" a la the Blood Angels, and more "we accidentally took away our supersoldiers' ability to not take orders exactly literally and now they massacred both the enemy and their own side on the ship. Prolly should fix that."
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 17:44 |
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Cinnamon Bear posted:There is also something that annoys me, and I don't think is done out of malice so much as not really being aware, but a lot of games (including my beloved Malifaux) also tend towards having an asian conglomerate. Its the "asian" faction, mixing any and all stereotypes, cultural assets, names of a vast array of different peoples and cultures, in a way that basically serves to create a homogenized, monolithic "other". Yes there are fluff reasons for these, but it doesn't change the fact its a very orientalist, western view.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 21:54 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I agree with your general point, but China hegemonizing an economically depressed Japan and Korea is a much more sensible future China than pretty much anything else I've seen in a tabletop game. (The revival of the Party and the Imperial throne, not so much. Why do game designers think Chinese people really really want an Emperor and Neo-Neo-Confucianism?) I always thought the fact that people in Firefly that left Earth speak English and Chinese was a pretty realistic representation of the future.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 22:04 |
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Shadin posted:I always thought the fact that people in Firefly that left Earth speak English and Chinese was a pretty realistic representation of the future. Maybe if they used Chinese for anything except US-Censor friendly cursing
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 22:42 |
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TheChirurgeon posted:Maybe if they used Chinese for anything except US-Censor friendly cursing That indeed would have made it even more realistic but it would have also made for lovely television. Compromises have to be made.
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 00:01 |
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Shadin posted:I always thought the fact that people in Firefly that left Earth speak English and Chinese was a pretty realistic representation of the future. And yet, none of the main cast were Asian...
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 00:08 |
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No one who isn't from China is going to learn Mandarin in the near or far future. Regardless of how Firefly implemented the language it ain't happening. If somehow Mandarin became a cultural force to rival English (which it won't), English would just absorb any Mandarin it was exposed to, like with the expression "Long time no see." For more details on why no one is going to learn Mandarin, see the China thread in GBS.
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 01:25 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:
Ha! Nice try!
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 01:47 |
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Bad Moon posted:Ha! Nice try! Yeah, fool me once.
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Atlas Hugged posted:see... ...GBS. mods?
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