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flyboi posted:One thing I find interesting is how the dlc has taken a complete nose dive in reviews as time goes on. On release it was at 90% or so and last I checked 56% or so today. Compared to each other release that is in 90s I'd say this has been a complete train wreak If you think this is a train wreak you've never been around anything slightly controversial on steam at its release, user reviews always get swamped
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flatluigi posted:If you think this is a train wreak you've never been around anything slightly controversial on steam at its release, user reviews always get swamped I'd say the crappy user reviews are just another example to throw on the pile of how poorly the expansion has been received. If it was just crappy steam reviews alone, sure, but there are many more outlets calling it disappointing.
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and every isaac launch has been a train wreak anyway
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I'll wreak ur trains
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Slime posted:If the main feature of Afterbirth+ was the modding tools then it honestly looks like they've cocked it up. The modding tools just seem so very powerless, and in weird ways sometimes. You can't make stat up items, what the christ? That's like the simplest item there is and it won't let you do it. Powerless, documentation is poor as hell, and maybe one of the examples didn't even work? The modding reddit for Isaac seemed really frustrated about the whole thing. Why the hell advertise mod tools when they're busted as gently caress and can't be used unless you can code/program and even then, it seems you can't really do anything cool with them. Everything about this DLC is half-assed. 
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CJacobs posted:I'd say the crappy user reviews are just another example to throw on the pile of how poorly the expansion has been received. If it was just crappy steam reviews alone, sure, but there are many more outlets calling it disappointing. Oh I'm definitely not saying it's a good launch, just saying that steam user reviews are just a minor step above metacritic user reviews in how much thought you should actually give to them
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Jan 6, 2017 02:42
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Had a strange occurrence earlier. Was on a regular hard mode Appol run, hadn't taken/absorbed any strange items or trinkets that I am aware of. Walked into a cursed room and suddenly had a full meat boy. No meat cubes previous, no cambion or anything, no item pickup that the item tracker recorded, just a full meaty with me for the rest of the game.
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Jan 6, 2017 02:47
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It was more comparing every other Isaac release that this isn't normal for the series. Even though antibirth was busted and unfinished on release it was still playable and enjoyable. Rebirth the only bugs I can remember on release were lost revival being immortal but not many other show stopping bugs.
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Jan 6, 2017 02:51
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Is there a way to get antibirth and afterbirth + at the same time? Like, could I just copy my BoI folder and have the regular install be afterbirth + and the copy be antibirth? If not, how easy is it to switch between the two?
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Jan 6, 2017 03:02
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Man, AB+ has its issues, but sometimes it still manages to produce magic. https://youtu.be/32dNRwn4LIs The first run is nothing special, but once he starts the April Fool challenge, it's some All-Time Classic level  . Every time you think it can't get more  , it does.
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Spergatory posted:Man, AB+ has its issues, but sometimes it still manages to produce magic. The stream chat was dying that entire run. No one had any idea how the gently caress that happened. I still don't know how the gently caress that happened.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bi7HJ02ico skip ahead to around an hour or an hour and ten to watch vinny turn into a random horror game final boss every floor
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Jan 6, 2017 03:42
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Game just patched, 11.4MB. I don't have a chance to try it yet, though.
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just got a patch. also earlier i got booger tears and shield tears and it was cool i could just clog up guys firing ports
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Jan 6, 2017 03:44
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No changelog posted on steam so glhf figuring out what they decided was changed
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Spergatory posted:Man, AB+ has its issues, but sometimes it still manages to produce magic. That whole run from when he got the Detonator was a run. That part where he manages to both Teleport out of the boss room, then Forget Me Now while fighting the boss is up there with THAT moment.Certainly looks more fun than getting Suicide King from a card by accident.
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April fools is about the only fun I've had with ab+ because it gets so absurd if you get a spammable space item. For me though I lose it when it forget me nows 
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widespread posted:That whole run from when he got the Detonator was a I still don't understand how the Ultra Greed moment happened.
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i've finally gotten around to playing antibirth and these are seriously some of the best-designed bosses i've seen in the series.
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RatHat posted:I still don't understand how the Ultra Greed moment happened. I think it has to do with that room size specifically. In challenges I've had instances where instead of a regular room it ends up as some sort of greed rush with a boatload of random crap spawning like I was in greed mode. Only happened to me three or so times but it was all in long vertical rooms just like that.
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RatHat posted:I still don't understand how the Ultra Greed moment happened. When he was messing with the Detonator, he used the Delirious item, which normally spawns a charmed boss. I guess if it summons Ultra Greed, it, uh, doesn't.
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The new patch deleted my saves! Luckily there's backups in the folder \My Games\Binding of Isaac Afterbirth+\ named something like "20170104.abp_persistentgamedata1.dat". I just renamed that to persistentgamedata1.dat and it was fine. Whew. Always backup your saves before updating anything from Nicalis. Probably good advice for any game in general.
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Void is supposed to suck up active use items? even more than one? I sucked up undefined as my first item, at first it was cool, free secret rooms and stuff, but I couldn't suck up any more items as it would teleport me first before sucking up the items and it just gave me a bad first impression of apollyon,
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Order of operations most likely. Probably undefined fires before void can suck the other items up
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Johnny Joestar posted:i've finally gotten around to playing antibirth and these are seriously some of the best-designed bosses i've seen in the series.
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flyboi posted:No changelog posted on steam so glhf figuring out what they decided was changed Changelong on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/games/250900/announcements/detail/248095310194829089 https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/817205418095038464 https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/817205927719772160 https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/817206613660475392
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When I sucked up the teleporter item It was absorbing items before taking me out of the room, letting me repeatedly absorb stuff provided I could re-charge.
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flyboi posted:Order of operations most likely. Probably undefined fires before void can suck the other items up Yeah, probably. Meanwhile the Order of Operations for Forget Me Now is that it sucks the item up before the game resets the floor.
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flyboi posted:Those who feel mods will save AB+ set sail for sadness Nicalis... is...? Incompetent!? 
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other important orders: before diplo (good, lets you infinitely eat the same item for stat ups) before Pandora's box (obv good) after d6 (bad, but maybe good with the teleport effect described above? reroll, eat, but teleport away to keep the rerolled item)
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flatluigi posted:If you think this is a train wreak you've never been around anything slightly controversial on steam at its release, user reviews always get swamped Steam reviews are a good barometer on whether something's up with a game, by comparison SA threads for games are usually stupidly defensive.
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It's just unfortunate for afterbirth+ because like, either a really ambitious and expansive mod comes out for the base game, or afterbirth+ launches broken. One of these things on its own is whatever. In one case, you have a cool mod launching alongside a cool expansion. And in the other, afterbirth+ launches kind of busted, which whatever, it's 2017 and games launch busted all the time. But both happening at once just makes for a Rough Look.
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Your Computer posted:Nicalis... is...? Incompetent!? flatluigi posted:Changelong on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/games/250900/announcements/detail/248095310194829089 Holy poo poo an actual changelog!! It's good to see improvement and I hope they make the modding API worthwhile. The adds in the game in my opinion are the most meh ever and I don't expect balance to come back until they fix modding so someone can make it fair. Based off ed's tweets his excuse is that they play tested with people too familiar to Isaac that it's unbalanced for the regulars. Tuned into the cobalt/dick stream earlier to hear they have to loop 100 times for an achievement and all I can think is "why?gently caress you ed" The April fools and backwards challenges are fun though and about the only things I come back to.
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flyboi posted:Holy poo poo an actual changelog!! It's good to see improvement and I hope they make the modding API worthwhile. I have over a thousand hours in the game and even I find Ab+'s difficulty to be bullshit. There's no loving way the game isn't going to crash an corrupt the current run save a few loops in. Is it just an achievement or is there an unlock for it? I can't believe Cobalt and Hammer did all of Greedier mode already, that's impressive. I don't imagine Northernlion is going to be able to do it, but we'll see.
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i did greedier with a few chars already, including the keeper, and i don't feel it's really that much harder than regular greed mode. if anything regular greed was way too easy to break. both of them severely lack replayability which is a much bigger problem really, i hadn't played any greed mode since afterbirth initially launched and I'm already feeling done with it again
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BJPaskoff posted:I have over a thousand hours in the game and even I find Ab+'s difficulty to be bullshit. From what I know it's 100 total re-runs not 100 in a row. We shall see!
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flyboi posted:From what I know it's 100 total re-runs not 100 in a row. We shall see!
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I can't link it because phones suck but Ed said with the new update portals can only spawn 3 enemies so for a 2 portal room you can have 6 total until you kill the portal. I think it's probably fair but can't play to get the feel. I'm just glad and surprised he went a max spawn route to address the issue... so long as they're rarer on basement
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flyboi posted:I can't link it because phones suck but Ed said with the new update portals can only spawn 3 enemies so for a 2 portal room you can have 6 total until you kill the portal. That's not a change, they always had a cap.
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Daeren posted:That's not a change, they always had a cap. It definitely wasn't 3 enemies per portal before
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