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Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

IOwnCalculus posted:

And for that increase in cost, you now can have anything Cadillac makes.

This sounded great to me until I remembered that most cars in a lineup are just fancier versions of the base car. Would you really ever choose the ATS when you could have an ATS-V at no difference in cost? Your choices end up boiling down to either fancy sedan or fancy SUV.

Them covering insurance also sounded great to me until I read the fine print. $750 deductible, and it sounds like it's liability only. So you gotta have your own insurance on top of that.

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kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

euphronius posted:

Escapade is the most expensive cadalliac tho by a mile right ?

Yeah, and that's just a base Escalade. Premium trims lease for 1000 a month. CT6 leases for ~750.

Mainly this would be a way to protect yourself against this:

Powershift posted:

The cadillac CT6 has only been on sale for 10 months, and you can already find some that have lost over $15k off sticker in 4000 miles.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/689205427/overview/

Unlimited mileage and Being able to turn it into an escalade when you have family in town are nice bonuses.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I've never understood why anyone buys a new luxury car. The CT6 is a great lease candidate if you want the newest poo poo, and a great off-lease candidate if you want a highly depreciated luxury car.

TheWevel
Apr 14, 2002
Send Help; Trapped in Stupid Factory
:derp: Because you don't own the car with a lease!!! :derp:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Good, because hatchbacks aren't even the correct body style for a Subaru!




IOwnCalculus posted:

I think it's an interesting model, and with where it's priced it probably isn't a big increase over a traditional lease + insurance for people who are swapping out the latest and greatest luxury cars every couple years already. And for that increase in cost, you now can have anything Cadillac makes. Get a CT6, XTS, or Escalade when you've got a long road trip coming up, ATS, XT5 or CTS when you're planning on staying in town, ATS-V or CTS-V when you feel like shredding someone else's tires.
Yeah it's not unreasonably more, but realistically the biggest target audience has to be the attention-deficit crowd. Otherwise you could get a Cayenne (or Escalade or whatever) for 800 and just drive it everywhere and be happy with it.

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

mobby_6kl posted:

Good, because hatchbacks aren't even the correct body style for a Subaru!



Yeah it's not unreasonably more, but realistically the biggest target audience has to be the attention-deficit crowd. Otherwise you could get a Cayenne (or Escalade or whatever) for 800 and just drive it everywhere and be happy with it.

Mobby here gets it, you goons keep on pining for a wagon

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Koirhor posted:

Mobby here gets it, you goons keep on pining for a wagon

Will do!

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Christobevii3 posted:

Just what we need, faster accelerating large trucks. Aren't tuned Ecoboost f150s already at 0-60 5 secs?

I don't know what my 0-60 is, but I went 13.5 with a Livernois 93 octane tune with my 15' SuperCrew 4x4

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Volvo V90 will be special-order only (CrossCountry will be business as usual).

I'd like to think this means I can order a V90 new and sell it in 5 years for what I paid for it.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/you-can-buy-the-2018-volvo-v90-wagon-in-america-but-only-if-you-custom-order-it/

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Auron posted:

I don't know what my 0-60 is, but I went 13.5 with a Livernois 93 octane tune with my 15' SuperCrew 4x4

That makes me happy in the oddest of ways.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

iwentdoodie posted:

That makes me happy in the oddest of ways.

The Fusion Sport could be stinking good with a tune and some weight out of it.

The Sicilian
Sep 3, 2006

by Smythe

Wistful of Dollars posted:

The Fusion Sport could be stinking good with a tune and some weight out of it.

How good are we talking?

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


The Sicilian posted:

How good are we talking?

At least 500 lbs

:rimshot:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


The lightweight concept dropped 800lbs.

Hard to imagine many people would pay 45-50 grand for a ~3500lb 400hp/400ftlb Fusion RS.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Powershift posted:

The lightweight concept dropped 800lbs.

Hard to imagine many people would pay 45-50 grand for a ~3500lb 400hp/400ftlb Fusion RS.

Sadly true.

To get the weight out now they'd either need to strip it of comfort and gizwangs (not many takers there) or on the engineering/materials side ($$$). 400/450 is not hard on the tuning side of things but it's such a porker of a car.

Best leave a potential fusion RS to the next gen platform and design from the ground up.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Wistful of Dollars posted:

Sadly true.

To get the weight out now they'd either need to strip it of comfort and gizwangs (not many takers there) or on the engineering/materials side ($$$). 400/450 is not hard on the tuning side of things but it's such a porker of a car.

Best leave a potential fusion RS to the next gen platform and design from the ground up.

That could take long loving time, cheap gas killed cars again.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Powershift posted:

That could take long loving time, cheap gas killed cars again.

It's ok, an SVT Lightning crew cab F-150 would be a great 4 door sports car

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Quick Draw McGraw posted:

It's ok, an SVT Lightning crew cab F-150 would be a great 4 door sports car

I was just thinking, a aluminum ecoboost expedition might weigh the same as a dodge charger.

Tune it, drop it, you have a 450hp/550ftlb RWD sportswagon with 4 wheel independent suspension.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
I've said it before: Chevy needs to bring back the Silverado SS with the new ZL1 drivetrain

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
2wd lowered Chevy Tahoe SS on 18"s (@ 4,375 lbs)

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

Keyser S0ze posted:

AWD Chevy Tahoe SS on 18"s (@ 4,375 lbs)

:awesome:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


This is GM we're talking about. It'll have an automatic, but not one of the good, new ones. A leftover 4L80E or something.

And torque management.

:flaccid:

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
Only the v6 now has 6L80E iirc so should be 8 speed and in another year or two 10 speed. I think they have awd lined up above 6 now...

Even the 6.2L truck motor with some basic forced induction would be solid to outdo the ecolie err boost

butterbar
Dec 14, 2016
If I'm posting while Quick Draw McGraw is on probation report me for my permaban!
Why the hell can't I buy a Cadillac with a naturally aspirated V8 that's not an Escalade? What is this bullcrap?

Hyundai will sell me one but not Cadillac?

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

butterbar posted:

Why the hell can't I buy a Cadillac with a naturally aspirated V8 that's not an Escalade? What is this bullcrap?

Hyundai will sell me one but not Cadillac?

"BMW is doing turbo engines, make some of those!"

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


3 liter powerstroke* diesel is here



base 3.5 engine is now 3.3 liter with direct injection, same hp/tq
"all new second gen" 2.7 ecoboost
upgraded 3.5 ecoboost
everything gets a 10 speed


*jaguarstroke

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

Powershift posted:

3 liter powerstroke* diesel is here

*jaguarstroke

You know that's a Ford designed engine that they build for JLR, right?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Q_res posted:

You know that's a Ford designed engine that they build for JLR, right?

Oh i know. And they're touting that it's designed, built, and tested in-house.

It was still designed for lighter vehicles.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

I like the new front ends.



I wonder where else the 3.3DI will be put to use. Surely not the Mustang. Edge perhaps?

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
I'd expect the 3.3 in the hybrid F-150. Edge is probably a good bet, interesting question is if we'll end up with an Ecoboost version of it at some point.

Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!
But it already has turbos......how about a Shelby version?

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
I was talking about an Ecoboost version of the base 3.3, not the diesel.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Supposed to be the new Stinger GT:






365 hp, no idea what it weighs.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Has anyone posted that the Taco has a windshield GoPro mount now? Apparently came out last year but...why? No power to it, so not even semi-useful as a dashcam.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

Has anyone posted that the Taco has a windshield GoPro mount now? Apparently came out last year but...why? No power to it, so not even semi-useful as a dashcam.

Because people that buy Tacomas live XTREME lifestyles.

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

Wistful of Dollars posted:

Supposed to be the new Stinger GT:






365 hp, no idea what it weighs.

Its just called the GT. The Stinger GT was a 2+2 sports car concept. Different cars

The official reveal is supposed to start in 5 hours at 6pm est

https://www.thecurveahead.net

kill me now fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jan 8, 2017

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

drat, I was really hoping I'd like this car but that infotainment panel, blech.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

Has anyone posted that the Taco has a windshield GoPro mount now? Apparently came out last year but...why? No power to it, so not even semi-useful as a dashcam.



This might have made sense in 2012? when GoPro reached peak hype, hardly ever see them at all anymore. Seems like they'd make a lovely dashcam. Or is the mount for pointing the camera in so you can narrate your extreme youtube lifestyle? I guess that makes more sense.

Franco Caution
Jul 18, 2003

Wicked. Tricksy. False.

And when the production version arrives, rest assured Kia will find a way to put chrome EVERYWHERE.

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kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

Franco Caution posted:

And when the production version arrives, rest assured Kia will find a way to put chrome EVERYWHERE.

That should be the production version as it sits. The concept was 4 years ago. Also it has the chrome on the window trim like the Optima already

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