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Brainamp posted:I saw that one E3 trailer that looked neat. Were later trailers/reviews about it bad or something? From the first trailer, something looked really off about it. And then the gameplay footage came out and it was just so painfully slow and janky. I might have felt bad if it looked like it was gonna be interesting or dynamic or stuff, but it just kinda felt very slow. More monster hunter-y than DMC/Bayo/etc.
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Jack Trades posted:Scalebound gameplay they showed looked like total garbage. Yeah it never clicked with me, I assumed it was going to get better with time but uh... Sorry Dragon-friend, we'll meet in another game. Also I give Platinum Games a 50/50 for existing in 5 years...unfortunately.
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Jan 9, 2017 22:42
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I heard the name and genuinely thought it was a platform collect-em-up throwback featuring a cartoony lizard mascot character. I didn't even know Platinum were involved until today.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I heard the name and genuinely thought it was a platform collect-em-up throwback featuring a cartoony lizard mascot character. I didn't even know Platinum were involved until today. Are you thinking of Scaler? 
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Jan 9, 2017 23:01
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Not only was it a PlatinumGames project, but Hideki Kamiya was directing it. While it definitely didn't look too hot when it was shown, I had faith that it would have turned out to being something decent just from his involvement alone.
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Jan 9, 2017 23:02
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:From the first trailer, something looked really off about it. And then the gameplay footage came out and it was just so painfully slow and janky. Conversely, those aesthetics was kind of why I leaned into it (well that and my casual, don't-watch-the-spinoffs love for How To Train Your Dragon.) But I also gotta admit that the mass-multiplayer, "a dozen dragons try to take down this ultra-boss together" scenario they demonstrated at their last show was quite poor.
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Jan 9, 2017 23:08
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it was the 4400th most preordered game on amazon while neir is like the 80th so if they had to cut fat the market research was done for them.
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Jan 9, 2017 23:21
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A Sinister Rap posted:Are you thinking of Scaler? Definitely not on any conscious level, but that's exactly the sort of game I was picturing, and I'd be surprised if I was the only one.
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Jan 9, 2017 23:37
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Craptacular! posted:A lot of people immediately disliked the first trailer just for aesthetic reasons. The guy looked sort of like the new, "gently caress anime" Dante of DmC Western Edition, and his headphones were obviously knockoffs of Beats By Dre. So immediately a certain set of gamers saw connections to two concepts they wanted nothing to do with. And many of them are the same kind of gamers whose interest spikes at the mention of Hideki Kamiya. I'd say it being Xbone exclusive probably hurt a ton too, and the game ran really badly when it was first shown. I have yet to see a reason to get an Xbone and that certainly didn't sway me one bit.
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Jan 10, 2017 00:35
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it was gonna be on pc
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I get a feeling in a year or two we'll see the comments saying they overreached themselves with multiplayer and could have had an okay game if they restricted themselves to the offline campaign.Momomo posted:I have yet to see a reason to get an Xbone and that certainly didn't sway me one bit. The number of cheap games usually from Microsoft Store that seem to show up, as well as the extensive HTPC apps including some niche players like SiliconDust, make me wish I had bought one instead of a PS4 so I could have mostly the same games and a great living room box. But I pre-ordered my PS4 the night of that one E3 when Sony was smugging it up and Microsoft was sniffing always-online DRM glue so that decision was made for me.
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Jan 10, 2017 01:12
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Real hurthling! posted:it was gonna be on pc No. It was gonna be on Win 10 Store which is practically the same as not being on PC as far as I'm concerned.
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Jan 10, 2017 02:19
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Craptacular! posted:I get a feeling in a year or two we'll see the comments saying they overreached themselves with multiplayer and could have had an okay game if they restricted themselves to the offline campaign. rumors already out now that ms wanted to make the game into a esport or minecraft style money hole and jerked platinum around over it. 
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Jan 10, 2017 02:23
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Microsoft is literally incapable of working with 3rd and 2nd parties, big surprise.
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Jan 10, 2017 02:30
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They just need one of these projects to actually come out so they can buy out the studio, change its name to be referential of the game they made, and force them to make the same game every 12-24 months forever.
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tap my mountain posted:Microsoft is literally incapable of working with 3rd and 2nd parties, big surprise.
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Jan 10, 2017 05:16
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They've had a few big leadership changes and new MS CEO with new priorities
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Jan 10, 2017 05:21
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Hopefully this doesn't completely tank Platinum's bottom line. They haven't been doing too well lately.
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Jan 10, 2017 05:27
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Nier should sell pretty decently. And then they've got two other games on the horizon next year. I have no idea what either of them are, but they're planned, anyway!
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Jan 10, 2017 05:40
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I feel like Platinum is kinda forever chained into developing other people's IPs by now. I feel really bad for them to end up in this situation after being found on such idealistic goals
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Nina posted:I feel like Platinum is kinda forever chained into developing other people's IPs by now. I feel really bad for them to end up in this situation after being found on such idealistic goals I don't know. The funny thing is that the only unique IP they've managed to pull off is Bayonetta. The rest are mechanically sound but lack in other areas imo (ok add W101 as well, that is pretty unique and cool) Then Kojima asks them "You know my multi million franchise with super popular characters? Make game of it" Rising is still one of my favorite games of all time. Also, Microsoft blows and Nier looks and plays great so no big loss there. WaltherFeng fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Jan 10, 2017 11:16
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So I know absolutely nothing about Nier or its predecessors but I love Platinum games and had a ton of fun with the Automata demo on PS4. Is there an easy way to kind of catch up on the lore or something? It seems super extensive and insane and I already have too much crazy insane video game lore in my head so I can't be assed to watch hours of LPs or read huge text dumps. I guess if it's not really necessary I don't care too much, I just want more of what I've already played. But if it's all gonna be a bunch of obtuse references and stuff I don't understand because I didn't play like 4 or something games before it then that would kinda lower my enjoyment of it all a bit I guess.
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Jan 10, 2017 11:35
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abraxas posted:So I know absolutely nothing about Nier or its predecessors but I love Platinum games and had a ton of fun with the Automata demo on PS4. Is there an easy way to kind of catch up on the lore or something? It seems super extensive and insane and I already have too much crazy insane video game lore in my head so I can't be assed to watch hours of LPs or read huge text dumps. Magic happened cause a giant woman, a insane man and a dragon came into our world through a portal, we dealt with it using clones or something, years and years later a dudes daughter was sick and then got kidnapped, he saved her and the world got hosed.
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Jan 10, 2017 11:43
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playing the first nier is enough. there are connections to the drakengard series but you arent going to be lost not having played them. also nier is a much better game than any of the drakengards, imo
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Jan 10, 2017 11:45
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sharrrk posted:playing the first nier is enough. there are connections to the drakengard series but you arent going to be lost not having played them. also nier is a much better game than any of the drakengards, imo Are there any well made and complete Nier LPs? I don't own a console but I'd like to get a full experience out of Automata.
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Jan 10, 2017 13:04
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If you can't play it (the first game has gone up in price sharply over the last year and it's not available digitally for some insane reason) The Dark Id did a 100% playthrough that also covers the backstory (which is easily one of the best parts of the game itself).
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Jack Trades posted:Are there any well made and complete Nier LPs? I don't own a console but I'd like to get a full experience out of Automata. Yeah, you can't really go wrong with The Dark Id's LPs for anything YT related. He's even gotten some stuff from the man himself for his Nier LP. The Dark Id posted:I got shitfaced and did some digging to contact Cavia before it was dissolved and specifically Sith Lord Taro Yoko during the NIER LP and linked to all the sales I had gotten the game... granted mostly used but whatever. I did more advertising than Square-Enix at that point. I got a response back from Taro Yoko a few months later thanking me for being an "ambassador to the West" and was asked for an address. Which was a PO BOX so whatever. If he was sending a letter bomb some poor mail lady would blow up. Drakengard! But in fact I got a signed poster from a bunch of members from the team and a voucher for the NieR piano soundtrack. Which required I make a fake Japanese iTunes account listing me in 25000 Fake Street, Osaka Japan.
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Only tangentially related but Evolve F2P was so good. Fuckin 2K trying to turn it into an esport and then shuttering the free version after two months. Big companies are bad!
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WaltherFeng posted:I don't know. The funny thing is that the only unique IP they've managed to pull off is Bayonetta. The rest are mechanically sound but lack in other areas imo Exhibit A: Vanquish. In a world where everyone was chasing Call of Duty, they released mobility-focused bullet-hell shooter where staying in cover was a trap. Plays incredibly well, has a strong art design, but blankets it in an execrably stupid story, sloppy plot beats, and off-putting characters.
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They need to release Vanquish on PC. I'd buy that without a second thought.
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The plot was space Russians attacking or something. It was dumb and goofy which is the norm for most Plat games.
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Who cares about the characters and story in vanquish lol
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VANQUIIIIIIISH! Man I loved that game. Warts and all.
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lets hang out posted:Who cares about the characters and story in vanquish lol All of the people that didn't buy Vanquish, because it's almost unimpeachable on a pure gameplay level. I lent Vanquish to 4 people with my highest recommendation. 3 of them didn't get through the first level because they found it dumb and confusing. It didn't matter to me, it didn't matter to the fourth guy, but it matters to a lot of people. And yeah anecdotes aren't data, but Vanquish flopped and I'm sure a good chunk of that is because it's absolutely not a narrative experience in any way that matters, and that is a GIGANTIC priority for people that buy single-player only games.
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I'm not your turret bitch, Barnes! That's the only thing I remember about Vanquish.
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lets hang out posted:Who cares about the characters and story in vanquish lol Counterpoint: Bayonetta is an amazing character who rivals Dante in sass and style. Also Rising managed to make Raiden cool. Vanquish kinda falls flat in that regard and having cool characters is pretty important. WaltherFeng fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:All of the people that didn't buy Vanquish, because it's almost unimpeachable on a pure gameplay level. Those people have bad taste because even the first level in Vanquish owns.
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Jan 10, 2017 18:14
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It's a shame about those people's brain problems
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Those people have bad taste because even the first level in Vanquish owns. I think you're forgetting it sits behind a very bland tutorial with very stupid dialogue and also a cutscene with, shall we say, Heavy Anime Elements (and an 18-wheeler delivering a heaping helping of Steven Blum ham)? One of them gave up, btw, when after multi minutes of cutscenes she didn't care about, she ran Sam down a corridor for about 10 seconds - and into more cutscenes. Now I personally think that Vanquish is extremely excellent and the first level does, in fact, own - but we're talking about why Platinum ended up with other people's IPs. And the answer is that their stories, plots, and characters are all off-putting to the average person, which is who they needed to appeal to for mainstream success. So much of video gaming is sold on flash and hype and those initial impressions to trailers - and Platinum just falls down in this area. I'm not saying that it's fair, just that it's reality.
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I love Vanquish to bits but I'm terrible at shooters so it's my least played Platinum title unfortunately.
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