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Grand Prize Winner posted:Petty and stupid but I like it anyway Bernie would not have won, but Bernie was not the problem. Bernie's supporters were the problem. I watched so-called progressives posting Breitbart and Daily Caller links on social media that during the primary supported Bernie because Crooked Hillary. Then I heard Bernie supporters saying the same crap about Benghazi that the tea party and Republicans have been saying for 8 years. Frankly, it got to where you couldn't tell the difference between a Bernie fan and a Trump fan with the vitriol coming from their mouths. It turned off plenty of Democratic party members, including progressives like me and said no way Bernie. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Bernie would not have won, but Bernie was not the problem. Bernie's supporters were the problem. I watched so-called progressives posting Breitbart and Daily Caller links on social media that during the primary supported Bernie because Crooked Hillary. Then I heard Bernie supporters saying the same crap about Benghazi that the tea party and Republicans have been saying for 8 years. Frankly, it got to where you couldn't tell the difference between a Bernie fan and a Trump fan with the vitriol coming from their mouths. It turned off plenty of Democratic party members, including progressives like me and said no way Bernie. I saw a liberal do something bad once so the entire liberal movement is bad. Also isn't grouping entire people together and judging them as a whole something that you, a just and true Liberal, is against? Also Bernie would have won. 
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Jan 15, 2017 14:57
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waaah some of my friends on facebook are tools and didn't love Hillary enough for my taste welp that does it neoliberalism forever. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Bernie would not have won, but Bernie was not the problem. Bernie's supporters were the problem. I watched so-called progressives posting Breitbart and Daily Caller links on social media that during the primary supported Bernie because Crooked Hillary. Then I heard Bernie supporters saying the same crap about Benghazi that the tea party and Republicans have been saying for 8 years. Frankly, it got to where you couldn't tell the difference between a Bernie fan and a Trump fan with the vitriol coming from their mouths. It turned off plenty of Democratic party members, including progressives like me and said no way Bernie. 
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Jan 15, 2017 15:36
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We should see if Michelle bachmann wants to run as the dem nominee in '20. She's proven she's electable among right wingers, so we can sweep the whole moderate and independent crowd with no effort. Anybody who complains about it we'll call an anti-bachmann-bro and explain that her platform of banning gay marriage and abortion are part of a broader pragmatic incrementalist plan that the dirty communists are just too dumb to understand. Plus she's a woman, and since I'm not sexist, being a woman automatically makes her a better candidate than any male, policy be damned. Also, we need to make sure she insults as many people as possible in 2019 and barely campaigns in swing states. Then when we lose, I can whine and cry on the internet about the lazy sexist idealists who refused to show up and vote for Mi Tia Loca.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Frankly, it got to where you couldn't tell the difference between a Bernie fan and a Trump fan with the vitriol coming from their mouths. It turned off plenty of Democratic party members, including progressives like me and said no way Bernie. From the outside looking in, I saw waaaaay more hillary people making GBS threads on bernie and his "berniebros" than the other way around 
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Jan 15, 2017 16:46
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i'll tell you what man that dang ol' internet man i saw a tweet from a person man that person said all kinds off stuff man you can't ever tell what a person on the internet might say man you can say whatever you want man bernie bros man
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Nebalebadingdong posted:i'll tell you what man that dang ol' internet man i saw a tweet from a person man that person said all kinds off stuff man you can't ever tell what a person on the internet might say man you can say whatever you want man bernie bros man Well that's what we tell ourselves isn't it, Boomhauer? 
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Nebalebadingdong posted:i'll tell you what man that dang ol' internet man i saw a tweet from a person man that person said all kinds off stuff man you can't ever tell what a person on the internet might say man you can say whatever you want man bernie bros man Had an IRL Bernie Bro tell me unironically that when Bernie lost he realized that all politics is controlled by the wealthy at the expense of the poor. And since he was better and smarter than poor people, he was going to make a bunch of money so he could also take advantage of the poor. So close, and yet, so far. 
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Jan 15, 2017 19:06
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theres a will theres moe posted:
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SithKitty posted:And since he was better and smarter than poor people, he was going to make a bunch of money so he could also take advantage of the poor. How's that workin' out for him? 
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Jan 15, 2017 19:33
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IT WAS THE NEO LIBS AND BELTWAY DEMS THAT hosed OVER BERNIE! HE WAS FLAWLESS! FLAWLESS!!! NO REAL LEFTIST COULD HAVE EVER HAD MISGIVINGS ABOUT SAINT BERNARD!!
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Jan 15, 2017 20:13
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Schizotek posted:IT WAS THE NEO LIBS AND BELTWAY DEMS THAT hosed OVER BERNIE! HE WAS FLAWLESS! FLAWLESS!!! NO REAL LEFTIST COULD HAVE EVER HAD MISGIVINGS ABOUT SAINT BERNARD!! And look how that ended for them 
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Wheeee posted:How's that workin' out for him? He is a middle class born programmer, so right now he is safe in an upper middle class income bracket and privileged self delusions. Looking forward to the inevitable deterioration of hopes and dream that will follow Trump destroying the economy. 
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Jan 15, 2017 20:47
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Schizotek posted:IT WAS THE NEO LIBS AND BELTWAY DEMS THAT hosed OVER BERNIE! HE WAS FLAWLESS! FLAWLESS!!! NO REAL LEFTIST COULD HAVE EVER HAD MISGIVINGS ABOUT SAINT BERNARD!! You keep posting that map. Why? All I see is that Hillary won a bunch of Republican states in the deep south. The same PUMAs that refused to support Obama because of a certain... "darkness" about him. 
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Jan 15, 2017 21:01
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lowercase16 posted:You keep posting that map. Why? I like Bernie a lot but the spots on that map that are darkest yellow (which I assume means 'heavy support for Hillary') also went for Obama in 2008: 
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vOv posted:I like Bernie a lot but the spots on that map that are darkest yellow (which I assume means 'heavy support for Hillary') also went for Obama in 2008: True true. I'm remembering interviews from people in Florida specifically. And those dark yellow areas have a high population of black people that Bernie had trouble connecting with. I think there's a few reasons for that, but I don't want to start a whole different discussion. I was just trying to figure out what Schizotek was trying to get at by posting that map. It doesn't say anything by itself. Or rather, it tells way too many different stories that I have no idea which one was the point. 
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Jan 15, 2017 21:14
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lowercase16 posted:You keep posting that map. Why? The darkest yellow areas are also all of the majority black regions in America.  e: Also Puerto Rico e2: Compare with a map of the blue dog coalition 
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Jan 15, 2017 21:26
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It's sad that bernie lost twice and now berniebros are forced to relive their shame everyday over and over. 
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Jan 15, 2017 21:41
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Schizotek posted:The darkest yellow areas are also all of the majority black regions in America. Ooooh, so we were on the right topic after all. And you don't think they would have voted for Bernie if he had been the nominee? 
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Jan 15, 2017 21:41
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lowercase16 posted:And you don't think they would have voted for Hillary if she had been the nominee? In many ways Hillary and Bernie had the same problems. You can't disregard important constituencies  Bernie was never going to be in the nominee in any scenario that involved a democratic election. So it's a bit besides the point.
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Jan 15, 2017 22:02
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We would have won Alabama if not for the bernie bros. 
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Jan 15, 2017 22:06
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theres a will theres moe posted:We would have won Alabama if not for the bernie bros. Truly, disregarding the black vote because they're unimportant in the general is a winning political move:  Liberals are doomed to failure forever.
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Jan 15, 2017 22:11
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Schizotek posted:Truly, disregarding the black vote because they're unimportant in the general is a winning political move: Yep, that sure is what I said!  And here I was wondering why Hillary spent so much time stumping in the Bible bel-- oh wait.. hmmm....
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Schizotek posted:In many ways Hillary and Bernie had the same problems. You can't disregard important constituencies I can agree with most of that and quibble with a bit, but a picture thread probably isn't the best place for real discussions. I don't think it's beside the point, though. We need to has out what went wrong with election, what direction should the party take, and who can we trust to take it there. But all the "Bernie criticizing Hillary cost us the election!" "Um, actually, Bernie would have won." "Nuh uh!" "Yeah huh!" is petty bullshit. Because Trump is going to be president in a few days and 
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Under the ACA replacement, their bill would have been $0 because they would not have received treatment and died as God intended.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:09
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Even if Bernie wouldn't have won (which he would have) he would certainly have done better than the most disliked democratic candidate in decades, Hillary Rodham Clinton. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Streak posted:Even if Bernie wouldn't have won (which he would have) he would certainly have done better than the most disliked democratic candidate in decades, Hillary Rodham Clinton. He would have posted a picture as well! 
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Jan 16, 2017 01:53
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Girl skaters in Theran
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Streak posted:Even if Bernie wouldn't have won (which he would have) he would certainly have done better than the most disliked democratic candidate in decades, Hillary Rodham Clinton. and yet she still got more votes than trump 
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Jan 16, 2017 01:58
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Bernie would have won (if he was a better candidate)
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Jan 16, 2017 02:01
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I wonder how many people crying "Bernie would have won!" are doing so because they're accelerationist idiots who voted for Trump too?
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Jan 16, 2017 04:30
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Probably not that many, the dumbass accelerationists already have their consolation prize and can gloat about that instead. It's the die-hard Hillmen still sneering away even after their loss that puzzle me.
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Jan 16, 2017 04:57
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TomViolence posted:Probably not that many, the dumbass accelerationists already have their consolation prize and can gloat about that instead. It's the die-hard Hillmen still sneering away even after their loss that puzzle me.
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C.M. Kruger posted:I wonder how many people crying "Bernie would have won!" are doing so because they're accelerationist idiots who voted for Trump too? When you ASSUME you make an rear end out of U and ME. Maybe everyone isn't American HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM? 
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