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Febreeze posted:It's also nice when the Giants, Eagles, and Skins fans can come together and agree on something  The only thing I have to cling to in these trying times is that I have more balls than lord waffle beard because I'm still posting after my team is out this year.
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Febreeze posted:It's also nice when the Giants, Eagles, and Skins fans can come together and agree on something I disagree. It's two decades.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:20
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I was gonna say something about winning more against the division, but if I only go back 20 years the only team we're consistently whooping up on is the redskins. Historically, though, the NFCE has collectively been Dallas' division.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:25
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I am glad that we finally bonded together and dropped the facade of caring about division solidarity.
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corn on the cop posted:I am glad that we finally bonded together and dropped the facade of caring about division solidarity. We're all losers this year.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I was gonna say something about winning more against the division, but if I only go back 20 years the only team we're consistently whooping up on is the redskins. jesus who cares. We won the division this year and had a great year. Of course fans of the rest of the division are gonna bring up the past because that's all they've got right now. Oh no the Jaguars won some playoff games back when they were good and we were trash! Guess our franchise is garbage! Oh look this team won some super bowls before some of us were born! Your team never won a Super Bowl! Guess you should put a bag over your head! I don't know how you guys do this poo poo over and over and over every week. Literally all four of these teams played better than any of their fans had any right to expect this year. All four. Even Giants fans with their bravado didn't foresee the team going 11-5 with a shot at 12-4 and the 1-seed this year. Washington fans weren't sure they had the QB of the future in Cousins. Cowboys fans thought the season was over when Romo went down. Eagles fans figured the whole thing was a lost cause and had no reason to believe Wentz was the guy. Now here we are and all four teams are flawed, but all four teams have potentially bright futures (though obviously that future extends a shorter distance out for the Giants). The NFC East is actually the best division in football, and that's pretty cool, even if the non-Cowboys teams are terrible and their fans are human trash. What matters now is that we can collectively root for the Falcons because oh my god gently caress these three other teams The only time I was legit upset last night watching the game was when Aikman brought up Green Bay as a "team that has suffered through a lot of heartbreak over the past few years" like winning only one super bowl and making the playoffs is a real loving travesty
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TheChirurgeon posted:jesus who cares. We won the division this year and had a great year. Of course fans of the rest of the division are gonna bring up the past because that's all they've got right now. Oh no the Jaguars won some playoff games back when they were good and we were trash! Guess our franchise is garbage! Oh look this team won some super bowls before some of us were born! Your team never won a Super Bowl! Guess you should put a bag over your head! I don't know how you guys do this poo poo over and over and over every week. This is beautiful. NFC East solidarity 
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TheChirurgeon posted:jesus who cares. We won the division this year and had a great year. Of course fans of the rest of the division are gonna bring up the past because that's all they've got right now. Oh no the Jaguars won some playoff games back when they were good and we were trash! Guess our franchise is garbage! Oh look this team won some super bowls before some of us were born! Your team never won a Super Bowl! Guess you should put a bag over your head! I don't know how you guys do this poo poo over and over and over every week. Well said. TheChirurgeon posted:The only time I was legit upset last night watching the game was when Aikman brought up Green Bay as a "team that has suffered through a lot of heartbreak over the past few years" like winning only one super bowl and making the playoffs is a real loving travesty I was upset with Garret not going for the FCK at the end of the half. If he didn't think Bailey had the leg for it send out the punter just never walk away when you have an uncontested shot at points. Bailey can put kickoffs in the back of the end zone and he had a few yards extra here. Even if he missed there wasn't going to be a return.
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TheChirurgeon posted:jesus who cares. We won the division this year and had a great year. Of course fans of the rest of the division are gonna bring up the past because that's all they've got right now. Oh no the Jaguars won some playoff games back when they were good and we were trash! Guess our franchise is garbage! Oh look this team won some super bowls before some of us were born! Your team never won a Super Bowl! Guess you should put a bag over your head! I don't know how you guys do this poo poo over and over and over every week. Nice meltdown For serious though you are right. Team history means gently caress all if you aren't doing well now. I'm pissed that Dallas found another franchise QB the year we did too. But hopefully it will be a great rivalry between the two of them
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TheChirurgeon posted:jesus who cares. We won the division this year and had a great year. Of course fans of the rest of the division are gonna bring up the past because that's all they've got right now. Oh no the Jaguars won some playoff games back when they were good and we were trash! Guess our franchise is garbage! Oh look this team won some super bowls before some of us were born! Your team never won a Super Bowl! Guess you should put a bag over your head! I don't know how you guys do this poo poo over and over and over every week. gently caress the Cowboys lol
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Jan 16, 2017 20:27
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TheChirurgeon posted:Even Giants fans with their bravado didn't foresee the team going 11-5 with a shot at 12-4 and the 1-seed this year. Where did you meet these Giants fans with Bravado, the fanbase was mostly pessimistic. We fired the one guy who wasn't the problem, kept Spags who none of us trusted, grossly overpaid for seen to be mediocre free agents, paid for by a GM that we'd all lost trust in who also took an expected bust #10 overall, promoted a guy who couldn't wear a fitting suit and was only an OC for two seasons, and had a preseason marred by a scandal on the loving kicker of all people. Your point about performing better stands, but the fanbase was not filled with bravado this offseason, I think most of us expected mediocrity at best. During the year it took us a while to fully trust that the defense was actually good and then we spent the rest of the time trying to understand why the offense was so bad.
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TheChirurgeon posted:jesus who cares. We won the division this year and had a great year. Of course fans of the rest of the division are gonna bring up the past because that's all they've got right now. Oh no the Jaguars won some playoff games back when they were good and we were trash! Guess our franchise is garbage! Oh look this team won some super bowls before some of us were born! Your team never won a Super Bowl! Guess you should put a bag over your head! I don't know how you guys do this poo poo over and over and over every week. https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/821058300020215808
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Mr. Nice! posted:Historically, though, the NFCE has collectively been Dallas' division. but let's talk about the future https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/820799297880997889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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No Giants fans had any bravado after the last few years. I maybe expected 8-9 wins out of them. The reports out of training camp were significantly more positive than usual, and they were a 6-win team with a porous defense and two of the worst offensive tackles in football. My expectation was that they could maybe eke out a wildcard. I didn't expect Jerry Reese's ridiculously stupid offseason gamble to be grossly successful and for Landon Collins to turn into the best safety in football. I also didn't anticipate the offense becoming completely dysfunctional, but I guess you can't have everything. The best part about Jerry Reese's stupid poo poo working out is that one or two other GMs are going to attempt the same crap and get fired.
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Remember when the Giants orchestrated punishments against their division rivals for the crime of paying free agents?
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Febreeze posted:Someone post the Cowboys suck a million dicks plaque I can't find it 
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Remember when the Giants orchestrated punishments against their division rivals for the crime of paying free agents? Good times.
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corn on the cop posted:No Giants fans had any bravado after the last few years. I was very critical of the additions they made on defense and several Giants fans disagreed and turned out to be right.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Well said. Bailey just didn't have the leg for it and Garrett is too conservative. If you want to be mad at Garrett, be upset that he didn't go full Buddy Ryan on the last pass Rodgers had; the Cowboys should have put 14 men on the field and held everyone on the field, eating enough clock that the Packers would have had to try for a hail mary instead of being able to kick a fg. That's the kind of low-football-IQ poo poo that Garrett and his teams have been continually guilty of for his entire tenure. I'd like Garrett as a coach much more if the team didn't continually make some of the dumbest loving mistakes ever. Febreeze posted:Where did you meet these Giants fans with Bravado I live in New York, so they were literally everywhere, particularly after week 1 Hey man Kawalimus can get whatever tattoos he wants
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NotWearingPants posted:https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/820805725517660161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Romo didn't leave though...
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Remember when the Giants orchestrated punishments against their division rivals for the crime of paying free agents? I dont know what the deal was with the Cowboys, but wasnt Washington's punishment from accelerating $30+ million in guaranteed money from a single contract into the uncapped year? No new free agent. No new money. Just gaming the uncapped year to try and avoid the cap pain.
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Gripen5 posted:I dont know what the deal was with the Cowboys, but wasnt Washington's punishment from accelerating $30+ million in guaranteed money from a single contract into the uncapped year? No new free agent. No new money. Just gaming the uncapped year to try and avoid the cap pain. The Cowboys extended Miles Austin to a 6 year, $54M, ~$9M AAV deal onto his original 1 year, $3M deal. They structured it so the first season, (the uncapped year) they paid out $17M, meaning the rest of the years were only a $7M AAV hit. The Redskins just didn't give a gently caress and tried to pay Albert Haynesworth's $20M signing bonus as they wanted out of his contract. They also paid off Deangelo Williams's signing bonus for the other $16M. Let's all just take a moment to remember that Haynesworth contract.
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Gripen5 posted:I dont know what the deal was with the Cowboys, but wasnt Washington's punishment from accelerating $30+ million in guaranteed money from a single contract into the uncapped year? No new free agent. No new money. Just gaming the uncapped year to try and avoid the cap pain. On the other hand, 30 teams colluded to avoid paying players more during the uncapped year, as a way of forcing favorable results during CBA negotiations, so gently caress them
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TheChirurgeon posted:On the other hand, 30 teams colluded to avoid paying players more during the uncapped year, as a way of forcing favorable results during CBA negotiations, so gently caress them When I think of Texas and Washington DC, I think "champions of worker rights"
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NotWearingPants posted:When I think of Texas and Washington DC, I think "champions of worker rights" If Jones and Snyder had their way, there'd be no salary cap, so in this case yeah, they kind of are
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NotWearingPants posted:When I think of Texas and Washington DC, I think "champions of worker rights" Real talk, since when is dallas known for loving over a player money wise? As far as nfl teams go they have only started recently to be more business like and less personal with player salaries. I mean isn't that more of the patriots style? .
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TheChirurgeon posted:If Jones and Snyder had their way, there'd be no salary cap, so in this case yeah, they kind of are Didn't Jones help get the salary cap put in place?
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dalstrs posted:Didn't Jones help get the salary cap put in place? He may have helped decide the structure, but he was one of the league's top spenders during the early 90s* and was never keen on revenue sharing for teams. Jones would prefer to operate like the Yankees *other top teams: 49ers, Redskins TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Its nice when giants, eagles, and cowboys fans can come together and agree on something. I was at a game at the Superdome where people were screaming "Fire Rob Ryan!" and I was cheering them on in a Cowboys jersey.
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TheChirurgeon posted:On the other hand, 30 teams colluded to avoid paying players more during the uncapped year, as a way of forcing favorable results during CBA negotiations, so gently caress them Didn't they get punished fairly harshly for it? I don't really blame the teams for not exploiting that year if they knew they'd get hosed for it.
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TheChirurgeon posted:If Jones and Snyder had their way, there'd be no salary cap, so in this case yeah, they kind of are Then the NFL would have the same wonderful parity as MLB.
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a new study bible! posted:Then the NFL would have the same wonderful parity as MLB. Hey winning every 100 years is parity.
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a new study bible! posted:Then the NFL would have the same wonderful parity as MLB. *looks at teams playing this weekend* yeah the nfl sure does have baseball beat in parity Deki posted:Didn't they get punished fairly harshly for it? I don't really blame the teams for not exploiting that year if they knew they'd get hosed for it. who exactly do you think punished them?
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Deki posted:Didn't they get punished fairly harshly for it? I don't really blame the teams for not exploiting that year if they knew they'd get hosed for it. While the Cowboys took a decent hit, the Redskins hit was much worse. Though in terms of harshness, they only got hit with the amount that they managed to save in cap space when the cap came back. If there is one reason it was harsh it was because the penalty was a one season thing but the savings would have come over several. I posted the exact details earlier in the thread. The Cowboys exploited it to save about $10M in cap space over 5 years and hit with a $10M cap penalty because of how they paid Miles Austin most of his guaranteed money in the uncapped year. The Redskins exploited it to save $36M in cap space and got hit with a penalty in order to ease the burdens of the contracts of Deangelo Hall and Albert Haynesworth. The Redskins paid almost a full quarter of what would have been on that years cap because of those 2 contracts. The Saints and one other team also hosed around with the uncapped year, but it was a lot less and they didn't get hit with a penalty.
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TheChirurgeon posted:*looks at teams playing this weekend* yeah the nfl sure does have baseball beat in parity That's more of a superstar effect than a dollars spent thing. At least different teams make the playoffs each year, which is unlike baseball since you can literally pick division winners before the season even begins.
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