skaboomizzy posted:

Sweet, a MoMA post-tantrum. Must've gotten something from the $25k espresso machine to get hyped up.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Funny, [url= http://cd.textfiles.com/pcgamesexe/pcge199807/BC3KAD/BC3KPR11.TXT]in your own words[/url] your company was bleeding money (both yours and others that were given to you), enhancing just how desperate you were to sell off the rights to BC3000 and 2 other games. No wonder why - Take Two bled money and needed to recoup what they could. 618k is not chump change after all.

"My company, 3000AD, has been operating at a loss since it's inception in 1992. All my money, that of my mother's and indeed development funding and expenses from three publishers were sunk into this game....
To this day, I have people working for me part-time without ever having received more than expense payments and knowing fully well that we were probably investing in wasted time...."

Sigh. Who cares if Take Two made 15% of it's profits from your title in one year. They still bled capital for each year you didn't release it.

But, how does this relate to SC? I just don't understand how - coming from where you did - you have any authority to say what CIG does with their crowd-funded money (hint: you don't).

skaboomizzy posted:

Sweet, a MoMA post-tantrum. Must've gotten something from the $25k espresso machine to get hyped up.

MeLKoR posted:

It shows the average backer spending $17 when the cheapest ship costs 3 times that. I don't know what it's showing but that can't be right.

Zzr posted:

But what do they port ? There is no game. Is the early acces of consoles paying too, so they can again scam some guys ?

D_Smart posted:

Nice try. Explain, in very few words, how any of that amounts to "your company was bleeding money". TIP: There are 5 occurrences of "money" in that missive. And none of them amount to anything you just wrote.

And since math is hard, you didn't actually read the SEC financials, or you'd know how the 15% revenue plays into their numbers. Because yeah, what a company filing to go public wants to do, is include a product that lost them money. Because, you know, that makes so much sense.

Newsflash: I put all my money into something that I wanted to do. Not money from Spergs. Publisher pays for their end (marketing, publishing, store presence)

ps: No matter how you try to distort facts, or continue your revisionist history - much like your iron-clad ToS, it will never be fact. You see, facts aren't hard. Lies are.

Again, keep trying though. It's hilariously entertaining.

boviscopophobic posted:

So for instance, out of 103,589 accounts established between June 2016 and January 2017, 4 of them are now Wing Commanders, 19 are Space Marshals, etc.

skaboomizzy posted:

Sweet, a MoMA post-tantrum. Must've gotten something from the $25k espresso machine to get hyped up.

D_Smart posted:

Nice try. Explain, in very few words, how any of that amounts to "your company was bleeding money". TIP: There are 5 occurrences of "money" in that missive. And none of them amount to anything you just wrote.

And since math is hard, you didn't actually read the SEC financials, or you'd know how the 15% revenue plays into their numbers. Because yeah, what a company filing to go public wants to do, is include a product that lost them money. Because, you know, that makes so much sense.

Newsflash: I put all my money into something that I wanted to do. Not money from Spergs. Publisher pays for their end (marketing, publishing, store presence)

ps: No matter how you try to distort facts, or continue your revisionist history - much like your iron-clad ToS, it will never be fact. You see, facts aren't hard. Lies are.

Again, keep trying though. It's hilariously entertaining.

ManofManyAliases posted:

You idiot: They're required to release that information on going public. Yes - they lost 618k on your poo poo-rear end release and were desperate to begin recuperating. You spent so much in development up to that point and couldn't produce, so they compelled you to do so. Talk about revisionist history: every word you said is documented in those google groups: internet archives can be a bitch, but you see, facts aren't hard. Lies are.

ManofManyAliases posted:

You idiot: They're required to release that information on going public. Yes - they lost 618k on your poo poo-rear end release and were desperate to begin recuperating. You spent so much in development up to that point and couldn't produce, so they compelled you to do so. Talk about revisionist history: every word you said is documented in those google groups: internet archives can be a bitch, but you see, facts aren't hard. Lies are.

quote:

August 5,1998

INTERPLAY VALUE PRODUCTS DIVISION TO DISTRIBUTE BATTLECRUISER 3000ADTM v2.0

Irvine, California -- Interplay (NASDAQ:IPLY) announced today that it has signed an exclusive deal with 3000 AD, Inc. to distribute Battlecruiser 3000AD v2.0 through the company's value products division. The game will ship to retail outlets throughout North America in September, 1998 at an estimated price point of $19.95. The contract gives Interplay worldwide distribution rights. Battlecruiser 3000AD v2.0 will be available for the Windows 95® and Windows 98® platforms.

"One of the key strategies that have been profitable for Interplay is to provide interactive entertainment software for both core gamers and for the mass market, and we have been able to penetrate the mass market through our value products division because of the lower price point," said Phil Adam, vice president of business development. "Maintaining the flow of great games at the right price point, like Battlecruiser, ensures us market share in this growing area."

"We have spent the last two years improving and advancing the technologies in BC3000AD v2.0," said Derek Smart, the game's designer and lead developer. "In version 2.0 we have incorporated all the patches and enhancements and included full native support for 3Dfx accelerators. This will also be the first release in which gamers can play BC3000AD with solid Win95 and Win98 support."

The Battlecruiser:3000AD franchise was launched worldwide in 1996, and to date has sold well over 100k units. Interplay's strategy is to release the title through its value products division extending the life of the BC3000AD franchise and making the title attractive to the more mainstream shopper at a lower price point.

Interplay Entertainment Corp. is a leading developer, publisher and distributor of interactive entertainment software for both core gamers and the mass market. Interplay produces titles for many of the most popular entertainment software platforms, and currently balances its development efforts by publishing interactive entertainment software for personal computers and current generation video game consoles, such as the Sony PlayStation and Nintendo 64. Interplay releases products through Interplay, Shiny Entertainment, Tantrum, Black Isle Studios, VR Sports, Flat Cat, Tribal Dreams and its affiliated labels. More comprehensive information on Interplay and its products is available through its worldwide web site at http://www.interplay.com.

The statements which are not historical facts contained herein are forward looking statements that involve certain risks and uncertainties, including changes in market conditions and other factors which could adversely affect the Company's future operating results.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I don't get paid by CIG.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Funny, in your own words your company was bleeding money (both yours and others that were given to you), enhancing just how desperate you were to sell off the rights to BC3000 and 2 other games. No wonder why - Take Two bled money and needed to recoup what they could. 618k is not chump change after all.

"My company, 3000AD, has been operating at a loss since it's inception in 1992. All my money, that of my mother's and indeed development funding and expenses from three publishers were sunk into this game....
To this day, I have people working for me part-time without ever having received more than expense payments and knowing fully well that we were probably investing in wasted time...."

Sigh. Who cares if Take Two made 15% of it's profits from your title in one year. They still bled capital for each year you didn't release it.

But, how does this relate to SC? I just don't understand how - coming from where you did - you have any authority to say what CIG does with their crowd-funded money (hint: you don't).

boviscopophobic posted:

What it's showing is "if you take a particular set of assumptions about how much the average forum account with a given title on the RSI forums spends, then this is the average spending per forum account with an enlist date in Q1 2017". The actual numbers in the graph are not supposed to be taken literally (I don't have access to detailed spending information), but more indicative of a trend that emerges in the analysis. So it's really not something that should be considered devoid of the context of the wall of words that surround it.

Also, since we are considering forum accounts, not paying backers, it is very possible for an account's spending to be $0, and thus for the average spending per account to be less than the cheapest ship.

boviscopophobic posted:

Also, since we are considering forum accounts, not paying backers, it is very possible for an account's spending to be $0, and thus for the average spending per account to be less than the cheapest ship.

MeLKoR posted:

ManofManyAliases posted:

You idiot: They're required to release that information on going public. Yes - they lost 618k on your poo poo-rear end release and were desperate to begin recuperating. You spent so much in development up to that point and couldn't produce, so they compelled you to do so. Talk about revisionist history: every word you said is documented in those google groups: internet archives can be a bitch, but you see, facts aren't hard. Lies are.

Rudager posted:

It amazing the company ever survived considering it had to release it's financials to the pubic, good thing Chris is smarter than that.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Funny, in your own words your company was bleeding money (both yours and others that were given to you), enhancing just how desperate you were to sell off the rights to BC3000 and 2 other games. No wonder why - Take Two bled money and needed to recoup what they could. 618k is not chump change after all.

"My company, 3000AD, has been operating at a loss since it's inception in 1992. All my money, that of my mother's and indeed development funding and expenses from three publishers were sunk into this game....
To this day, I have people working for me part-time without ever having received more than expense payments and knowing fully well that we were probably investing in wasted time...."

Sigh. Who cares if Take Two made 15% of it's profits from your title in one year. They still bled capital for each year you didn't release it.

But, how does this relate to SC? I just don't understand how - coming from where you did - you have any authority to say what CIG does with their crowd-funded money (hint: you don't).

aleksendr posted:

The Expanse is good (i loved the first books better then the last ones) but its 0.22 Nielsen rating (0.7 M viewer) is nothing, not even a glimpse, compared to Game of Thrones 4.3 with
7.8 M views. There might be a resurgence of Sci-Fi among our circles of spergs, but its not a widespread tendency in entertainment.

D_Smart posted:

Not to forget the fact that for them to even do a console port of anything, they would need to remain in business as a going concern because it's not going to fund itself to get on the console. They still need the money from backers.

ManofManyAliases posted:

You idiot: They're required to release that information on going public. Yes - they lost 618k on your poo poo-rear end release and were desperate to begin recuperating. You spent so much in development up to that point and couldn't produce, so they compelled you to do so. Talk about revisionist history: every word you said is documented in those google groups: internet archives can be a bitch, but you see, facts aren't hard. Lies are.

boviscopophobic posted:

it turns out that there are certain anomalous accounts where just looking at them causes their last active date to be updated.

Lime Tonics posted:

http://i.imgur.com/S0xHCB0.gifv

BadOptics posted:

So we're at ad hominem attacks now to get people's attention away from the dumpster fire that is Star Citzen?

MilesK posted:

They're quantum backers, they only exsist if you're looking.

The Titanic posted:

I'm just glad that despite everything, even when huge laughing stock idiots like Cymellion was discovered to be being harassed, the general consensus of the people in the thread was to leave the guy alone and let him have his opinion. Nobody was all "lol go reck him!" Unfortunately I'm sure the reddit guys (and probably Cymellion himself) will gleefully overlook those facts.

The unfortunate disadvantage of trying to have a "war" is that if your "enemy" exhibits positive or endearing qualities, it gets more difficult to continue the war. Removing those "normal person with logical feelings and emotions" from people makes it easy to look down on them.

If some hardcore backers or reddit guys hating on goons and such could swallow that they'd probably realize it's because this "war" they think is happening is only them having a war against a group who isn't at war with them. We're just out to see CIG maybe eventually get what it deserves... which isn't millions of dollars, Porsches and mansions and vacations all around the world. And of course laughing at whatever is coming up that's corny.

The only comedy in the thread comes from a few sources:

1: CIG gently caress ups. (Since pretty much everything they say or write is a lie or half truth, these happen almost every time CIG does something. Not to mention they are bad at it anyhow)
2: People believing after all this time that what they hear from CIG is real, and their crazy posts to defend that belief at all costs. (Like the pupil to planet video... what is that now? Like 9 months overdue? There's not even a scrap of evidence to support that it's "coming" ever; and that's funny)
3: Crazy backers (B'tak, piracy rape guy, Stimpire guy, that Adama guy and his art, the Twitter guys, etc)
4: Creative goons poking fun at the above three.

That's pretty much it. Rehashes of old memories, cats and dogs and food. Occasional goon infighting.

There's no war. There's no smear campaigns. There's no organized take downs of whatever. There's no deep secret initiative to sink goon tendrils into CIG or whatever. It's basically different variations of goons laughing at and finding the above topics that keep it going.