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BrianWilly posted:"Is it as bad as MoS?" is genuinely a very useful criterion for me on a regular basis. It's very strange and uncritical to treat MoS is an inescapable trauma, just like performative and ritualistic fear and hatred of director Zack Snyder. It's understandable why he drove people insane: because his movie denied and killed the comforting fantasy of superheroes. What people liked about Superman was the assuring paternalism, and there's a general feeling that Snyder fundamentally broke something. What they don't realize that it was good of him to do so. This is why people start to mumble when they have to explain why the movie is bad: there's nothing actually wrong with the story, the story just disturbs them to the extent that they frame it as a nihilist-Objectivist nightmare. Like Lex Luthor's character in the BvS: complaints were bandied about how he didn't make sense, he was contradictory, annoying, and unbelievable. Now that Donald J. Trump is President of the United States of America, it's awfully clear that people hated Zuckerberg's Luthor because he was too realistic a figure. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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Chill Penguin posted:Also, while we're on a fan-casting tangent: Glenn Howerton (Dennis from "It's Always Sunny...") for the Joker. Adam Devine (demamp from "Workaholics") for Hal Jordan. Or maybe Guy Gardner. The dude is a living Kevin Maguire drawing. Hell, he could play anyone (male) from JLI. He'd be a great Max Lord. drat, now I want a JLI series. Adam Devine really bugs me, and I can barely articulate why. I've only seen him in a bunch of stupid ads and those Pitch Perfect movies my wife loves, but I think of him as having a very "punchable face," and then I feel bad for thinking it. Other actors who have gotten under my skin through no fault of their own include Eric Balfour (who?) and Jack Noseworthy (who?).
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Man of Steel is, like, a baseline for superhero movies. Not terrible, not fantastic. Just somewhere comfortably in the middle between Thor 1 and 2.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Adam Devine really bugs me, and I can barely articulate why. I've only seen him in a bunch of stupid ads and those Pitch Perfect movies my wife loves, but I think of him as having a very "punchable face," and then I feel bad for thinking it. Other actors who have gotten under my skin through no fault of their own include Eric Balfour (who?) and Jack Noseworthy (who?). Adam Devine is just sort of there in everything except Workaholics. Eric Balfour seems to have dug his own career grave as he was hot poo poo #1 with a bullet and then suddenly struggling to get work in commercials. (There's a funny BTVS story about him I need to dig up). I think Noseworthy did the same thing, somebody told him he was the next big thing and he started acting like it and it cost him work.
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CzarChasm posted:"It not you, it Gambit: the Movie" Does the character really talk like this? Is he really stupid or something? Or some Weird tiny Hulk man?
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CelticPredator posted:Does the character really talk like this? Is he really stupid or something? Or some In the X-Men '92 cartoon he indeed did talk like this. He switched back and forth from third person several times per episode.
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I hate this character and I've never read a single comic with him. I only know who he is from the lovely Wolverine movie.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Adam Devine really bugs me, and I can barely articulate why. I've only seen him in a bunch of stupid ads and those Pitch Perfect movies my wife loves, but I think of him as having a very "punchable face," and then I feel bad for thinking it. Other actors who have gotten under my skin through no fault of their own include Eric Balfour (who?) and Jack Noseworthy (who?). It's because he can't act and his voice is dumber than his face.
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Rhyno posted:In the X-Men '92 cartoon he indeed did talk like this. He switched back and forth from third person several times per episode. My favourite one is when they go to the Savage Land and lose their powers, and Gambit cries, "No! Gambit have no power either!"
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I can't find it right now, can someone please post the page with Mr. Sinister and his Gambit clones for the benefit of CelticPredator?
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Wheat Loaf posted:My favourite one is when they go to the Savage Land and lose their powers, and Gambit cries, "No! Gambit have no power either!" "Always remember that Gambit, loves you."
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Chill Penguin posted:Also, while we're on a fan-casting tangent: Glenn Howerton (Dennis from "It's Always Sunny...") for the Joker. I could totally see abusive, vain Dennis Reynolds Joker painstakingly explaining the tenets of the J.O.K.E.R. system to Harley Quinn.
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Interesting reading quite a few of the posts pouring scorn on the WW rumours. Its EXACTLY the same scenario as pre-BvS. Wake up and realise WB hasn't a loving clue what they are doing and that they will have killed the DC movie franchise by 2018. I actually think there's a danger they can bring other poo poo down with them, I'm starting to get a little jaded about Marvel's stuff now having been a big fanboi for nearly 10 years.
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I wanna peek at the alternate universe where the sales boost of the New 52 didn't lead to scrapping the actual comic book division of DC, just because I think it'd be interesting if the long run failure of the movies would then maybe result in selling the characters to Marvel, which almost happened in like, the eighties.
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kaesarsosei posted:Interesting reading quite a few of the posts pouring scorn on the WW rumours. Its EXACTLY the same scenario as pre-BvS. Wake up and realise WB hasn't a loving clue what they are doing and that they will have killed the DC movie franchise by 2018. I actually think there's a danger they can bring other poo poo down with them, I'm starting to get a little jaded about Marvel's stuff now having been a big fanboi for nearly 10 years. No it's not.
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Insider sources say WW is a huge mess exactly like Suicide Squad. So Wonder Woman's gonna make like a billion bucks then.
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I mean I loving loved BvS and everything we've seen of Wonder Woman doesn't seem similar, but if it is I certainly won't mind.
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Phylodox posted:Man of Steel is, like, a baseline for superhero movies. Not terrible, not fantastic. Just somewhere comfortably in the middle between Thor 1 and 2. Man of Steel is great right up until the scene where Pa Kent tells Clark he shouldn't help people. It's all downhill from that point on. I'd say Iron Man 1 is a better baseline. It's consistent the whole way through, it's just kind of okay, and it has a very standard plot and villain.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Man of Steel is great right up until the scene where Pa Kent tells Clark he shouldn't help people. It's all downhill from that point on. I'd say Iron Man 1 is a better baseline. It's consistent the whole way through, it's just kind of okay, and it has a very standard plot and villain. Robert Downey Jr. and Jeff Bridges alone elevate Iron Man above the baseline. Doubly so once you take into account they were flying blind half the time, with no script because of the writers' strike.
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CelticPredator posted:Does the character really talk like this? Is he really stupid or something? Or some He's supposed to have a thick Cajun accent, and also be really full of himself, so it kinda makes sense. Except that quote is from a note he left, and that's just silly nonsense.
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Jamesman posted:He's supposed to have a thick Cajun accent, and also be really full of himself, so it kinda makes sense. Maybe Gambit wasn't really Gambit, and he just kept trying to tell everyone about this other guy but everyone kept thinking he was talking about himself in the third person.
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Phylodox posted:Robert Downey Jr. and Jeff Bridges alone elevate Iron Man above the baseline. Doubly so once you take into account they were flying blind half the time, with no script because of the writers' strike. Yeah, the best Marvel movies really are carried by having great actors. I'd say that's why Agent Carter's TV series is so great, because the cast is so drat strong in their roles even though the plots are your standard retro spy stuff.
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Phylodox posted:Maybe Gambit wasn't really Gambit, and he just kept trying to tell everyone about this other guy but everyone kept thinking he was talking about himself in the third person. Gambit is the name Remy's stand. Actually, this is false, because his stand's name would be [T H E G A M B L E R]
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Always Sunny Dennis was allegedly #2 after Pratt for Star Lord. I wonder how that turns out.
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Electromax posted:Always Sunny Dennis was allegedly #2 after Pratt for Star Lord. I wonder how that turns out. I think that would have actually turned out really well. Probably not as well as Pratt though as Howerton isn't quite as naturally likable.
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I just can't see Glenn Howerton carrying a Marvel movie. I love the Sunny cast, but Devito is really the only one with any range. Charlie Day plays a version of himself with minor variations in every single movie he's been in. Kaitlin Olson is amazing at physical comedy, probably the best in the cast, but she's playing the exact same character on The Mick. They're all good TV actors, but movie leads? 
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Yeah but we all said the same stuff about Chris Pratt.
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Electromax posted:Always Sunny Dennis was allegedly #2 after Pratt for Star Lord. I wonder how that turns out. Man that wouldve been awful, quill may be a jerk but hes supposed to be charming and charismatic
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Teenage Fansub posted:Where the gently caress is my Thor 3 trailer Taika? Probably attached to Guardians 2.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I just can't see Glenn Howerton carrying a Marvel movie. I love the Sunny cast, but Devito is really the only one with any range. Charlie Day plays a version of himself with minor variations in every single movie he's been in. Kaitlin Olson is amazing at physical comedy, probably the best in the cast, but she's playing the exact same character on The Mick. They're all good TV actors, but movie leads? They should do Agents of SWORD and just cast everyone from Always Sunny. Just a bunch of assholes hanging around a space bar, fighting off alien threats.
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X-O posted:I think that would have actually turned out really well. Probably not as well as Pratt though as Howerton isn't quite as naturally likable. Howerton with an extra 50 pounds of muscle would be fine for the original style "Kind of a well meaning sociopath" Starlord, but Pratt nails the "Semi-retarded goof" Starlord.
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Jamesman posted:They should do Agents of SWORD and just cast everyone from Always Sunny. Danny Devito should be Pip the Troll. You know it's right.
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X-O posted:Probably attached to Guardians 2.
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achillesforever6 posted:Look I just want to see Space Jeff Goldblum already! You're in luck! 
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Phylodox posted:You're in luck! Oh my god, it's Gladiator!
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I just can't see Glenn Howerton carrying a Marvel movie. I love the Sunny cast, but Devito is really the only one with any range. Charlie Day plays a version of himself with minor variations in every single movie he's been in. Kaitlin Olson is amazing at physical comedy, probably the best in the cast, but she's playing the exact same character on The Mick. They're all good TV actors, but movie leads? They've never been given a chance. Chris Pratt just played Chris Pratt in every movie until Guardians. Like people hire Charlie to be a Charlie. They hire Olsen to be Dee. Once they're get a chance you can say they have no range.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Man of Steel is great right up until the scene where Pa Kent tells Clark he shouldn't help people. It's all downhill from that point on. This is a pretty good example. No one can actually name what's wrong with that scene. They'll say that it's morally wrong (it really isn't), but a character stating something morally wrong doesn't actually make a scene or movie bad. Instead, what people are offended is that Jonathan "Pa" Kent is saying it in the first place. It was a very common point brought up by comic book fans, The paternal figure is supposed to offer comfort. This is the basic appeal of the Superman mythos for many fans (a Superdickery story will reveal that Superman was being good all along while merely acting bizarre or violent, like an apologia for an abusive parent). Instead of comfort, Pa Kent offers freedom, and fans hate the movie for it. site posted:Man that wouldve been awful, quill may be a jerk but hes supposed to be charming and charismatic He's also supposed to be desperate, manipulative would-be hero leading a team of professionals on suicide missions, which was abandoned early on in favour of the "makeshift family" theme. I think what the character is supposed to be is a secondary concern at this point. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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Who would be a good Wolverine moving forward since Jackman appears to be done. I can't think of anyone. E; Cross posting but I wonder why no one has ever thought about making Plastic Man movie. I think there's a lot of potential there for a really cool film, especially with the proper tone. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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BiggerBoat posted:E; Cross posting but I wonder why no one has ever thought about making Plastic Man movie. I think there's a lot of potential there for a really cool film, especially with the proper tone.
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