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ImpAtom posted:How are the changes? I've been utterly swamped with work so I haven't gotten to get to it yet. Logy shows up and from there the side events turn into an Escha & Logy reunion. They also start to imply Stellard is more important because he was sent there. Some minor plot items just mentioned as an aside are suddenly front and center. Ayesha shows up after The Shallies fight and the narrative is changed slightly so she helps resolve their feud It's setting up for something more but as of now they're still at the same point they were in the original just with two extra characters and extra explanations.
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Failboattootoot posted:I personally couldn't get very far into cyber sleuth. It was a minor wake-up call to me about how much I care about aesthetics in games because that game was mechanically pretty good but I could not get past the hideous environment design, sub-par translation and terrible soundtrack.
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Need a quick opinion on whether or not WRS 5 is worth snagging for Vita... I know the graphics are butt, but hoping that it's a decent rally sim otherwise.
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zenintrude posted:Need a quick opinion on whether or not WRS 5 is worth snagging for Vita... I know the graphics are butt, but hoping that it's a decent rally sim otherwise. Unless there's Miku on the side of one of those cars I don't think you'll find too many Vita players
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 My Shallie Plus preorder arrived. InfinityComplex fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Jan 23, 2017 19:39
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InfinityComplex posted:
Atelier games are the one thing I never understood. I tried one for an hour and went "uuuugh.... not for me" I think it was totori and maybe not representative of the franchise. Well ok, I don't understand Valkyrie Drive either. I'm happy for you though.
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Whoa hey, let's not compare Atelier to VD. Not cool
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EPIC fat guy vids posted:Atelier games are the one thing I never understood. I tried one for an hour and went "uuuugh.... not for me" I think it was totori and maybe not representative of the franchise. Totori is representative of the general idea of the franchise, but it does start you off in a tiny corner of the world map and gives you no direction at all, both of which can be kind of offputting.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:36
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I bought some Atelier game and then shoved it in the shelf. What are the games about? Alchemy?
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Jan 24, 2017 03:38
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EPIC fat guy vids posted:Atelier games are the one thing I never understood. I tried one for an hour and went "uuuugh.... not for me" I think it was totori and maybe not representative of the franchise. if you are male you prolly won't like atelier
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Jan 24, 2017 03:41
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Waltzing Along posted:I bought some Atelier game and then shoved it in the shelf. What are the games about? Alchemy? They're about chilling with friends and killing gods and monsters with homemade nukes
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Sea Sponge Run posted:if you are male you prolly won't like atelier I don't think gender has much to do with enjoying video games actually Atelier is good for everyone
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Jan 24, 2017 03:44
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U-DO Burger posted:They're about chilling with friends and killing gods and monsters with homemade nukes Actually, I have more than one. I have Sophie for PS4. Don't remember getting that. And PS3 Arnand Trilogy.
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Atelier games are basically about two things: A) Making friends with anime characters B) Increasingly complex item crafting.
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zenintrude posted:Need a quick opinion on whether or not WRS 5 is worth snagging for Vita... I know the graphics are butt, but hoping that it's a decent rally sim otherwise. No, WRC 4 is the one you want to get for the Vita, that's the decent one.
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Waltzing Along posted:Actually, I have more than one. I have Sophie for PS4. Don't remember getting that. And PS3 Arnand Trilogy. Sophie is one of the worst starting points for the series. There's a reason Escha and Logy were added as characters despite being from a different universe.
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Dehry posted:Sophie is one of the worst starting points for the series. There's a reason Escha and Logy were added as characters despite being from a different universe. I have to agree, it's a decent Atelier game but the Dusk Trilogy is the best versions to get people introduced to it. Hopefully Firis will be better.
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Dehry posted:Sophie is one of the worst starting points for the series. There's a reason Escha and Logy were added as characters despite being from a different universe. fun cameos? afaik the most they do in sophie and firis is logy running the weapon upgrade shop
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Sea Sponge Run posted:if you are male you prolly won't like atelier That's fair. I can appreciate that a franchise isn't meant for me.
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Sea Sponge Run posted:if you are male you prolly won't like atelier Sorry, but that's bull. The Dusk trilogy works for anyone who wants a chill game about making friends, eating cake, and slaughter cute animals so you can make more powerful bombs. Also everyone who appreciates the wonderful music. Just don't expect a complicated story or lightning-fast pace. Renoistic fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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I heard that that Escha/Logy Dusk game is the best in the series. I was hoping the trilogy would who up on Vita for like $10 or something. But not yet.
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Waltzing Along posted:I heard that that Escha/Logy Dusk game is the best in the series. I was hoping the trilogy would who up on Vita for like $10 or something. But not yet. I would say Escha/Logy has the best gameplay. My favorite is still Ayesha because: 1) I enjoyed the characters more. 2) Better music (but at least on ps3 you can buy the Ayesha music as DLC for cheap, so you can listen to it in E&L) 3) The time limit actually has a point and forces you to think about what you should be doing.
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Renoistic posted:I would say Escha/Logy has the best gameplay. My favorite is still Ayesha because: Yeah I pretty much agree with this. The rest of them are still great chill-out games but Ayesha was the first I played (besides some MK and Annie which lol) and having a more interesting storyline & stuff was a big factor in getting sucked into the series. That said I still think E&L is really fantastic & anyone who likes to chill with their games (or alternatively likes to get intense about crafting) could have fun with them
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CrashCat posted:Luckily you can powerlevel pretty easily in the game at some point, so it doesn't have to be painful to raise them up again Oh definitely. Stuff like the Platinum/USB setup saves so much time that I can't imagine trying to Digivolve half the monsters without it. It takes a bit of time and grinding to set that up as well though. Not to mention that you still have to teleport back and forth between your grinding spot and the place where you can manage evolution.
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I've tried to get into the older trilogy a few times with little success. I always get bored and switch to something else before it picks up. But I got really far in the crappy PSP port of Mana Khemia, which is basically Atelier but in a school setting (and a male main character  ). Also made by Gust.
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ImpactVector posted:I've tried to get into the older trilogy a few times with little success. I always get bored and switch to something else before it picks up. Mana Khemia is literally an Atelier game. Each Atelier game is titled Project A(#) where MK is A9. MK2 is A10, Rorona is A11, ect. Firis is A18.
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ImpAtom posted:Mana Khemia is literally an Atelier game. Each Atelier game is titled Project A(#) where MK is A9. MK2 is A10, Rorona is A11, ect. Firis is A18. Oh... MK is an Atelier game? whelp, guess I need to start picking them up.
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Mana Khemia is really good. MK2 I can't say a lot of good things about. But the secret boss in the JP-only PSP version is amazing 
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After a lot of hemming and hawwing, Tecmo Koei confirms that Toukiden 2 will be coming to PC, PS4, AND PS Vita. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBzBqJQVQ08 Toukiden 2 comes to North America on March 21st and the 24th in Europe.
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Psycho Knight posted:Oh definitely. Stuff like the Platinum/USB setup saves so much time that I can't imagine trying to Digivolve half the monsters without it. It takes a bit of time and grinding to set that up as well though. Not to mention that you still have to teleport back and forth between your grinding spot and the place where you can manage evolution. yeah, for all the things i love about the digimon game it could still use some QOL improvements with regards to digivolution and such oh well, cyber sleuth apparently sold fairly good (for a niche game that almost didn't even get translated) so maybe Cyber Sleuth 2 will fix some of that
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Is Toukiden any different from all the other MonHun-likes?
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I started playing the Atelier series with Totori, and have played from there partway through Escha & Logy, up through making the airship parts. I get the feeling it's a minority opinion, but my favorite so far is actually Meruru. It has IMO the best balance about the timeline giving a sense of urgency without feeling too rushed, having both calm slice-of-life elements and more dramatic events and having fun, engaging characters. Totori was fun but the timeline felt way too rushed unless you were following a guide. The Dusk series so far is a bit too laid-back overall for my tastes. I like the general commentary and world-building it does, but I wish the characters in general were more engaging and/or there were a few events that felt more overall consequential (more a complaint w/ E&L so far than Ayesha). But I still have to finish E&L and then there's Shalie, and then the next set ahhhhhh I'm so far behind! Also, I will always love Atelier offering so much music from previous games as DLC you can assign in the current game, easily one of my favorite things considering how good a lot of the music is.
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ImpAtom posted:Mana Khemia is literally an Atelier game. Each Atelier game is titled Project A(#) where MK is A9. MK2 is A10, Rorona is A11, ect. Firis is A18. also, pamela is in it
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Mason Dixon posted:I started playing the Atelier series with Totori, and have played from there partway through Escha & Logy, up through making the airship parts. I get the feeling it's a minority opinion, but my favorite so far is actually Meruru. It has IMO the best balance about the timeline giving a sense of urgency without feeling too rushed, having both calm slice-of-life elements and more dramatic events and having fun, engaging characters. Totori was fun but the timeline felt way too rushed unless you were following a guide. The Dusk series so far is a bit too laid-back overall for my tastes. I like the general commentary and world-building it does, but I wish the characters in general were more engaging and/or there were a few events that felt more overall consequential (more a complaint w/ E&L so far than Ayesha). But I still have to finish E&L and then there's Shalie, and then the next set ahhhhhh I'm so far behind! I would like Meruru the most of the Arland games if not for the frigging Rorona thing in it which is just The Worst.
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Well now I feel weird that my favorite Atelier (that actually has Atelier in the name) is still Totori. 
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I know its not Vita related but while it's on topic, was Mana Khemia 2 worth playing? I enjoyed the original a lot, but someone heavily dissuaded me from importing the sequel for reasons I can't remember.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Well now I feel weird that my favorite Atelier (that actually has Atelier in the name) is still Totori. You're not alone there. I've seen a fair number of people say they like Totori a lot. Not Operator posted:I know its not Vita related but while it's on topic, was Mana Khemia 2 worth playing? I enjoyed the original a lot, but someone heavily dissuaded me from importing the sequel for reasons I can't remember. The basic problems are: A) They do a 2-character thing but it isn't interesting enough to actually carry 2 playthroughs while being necessary to access the final dungeon. B) The entire cast are unlikable assholes. It really drags the game down because they're not funny or charming, they're just boring shits. C) It recycles a bunch of MK1 so it doesn't feel very fresh.
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ImpAtom posted:
Also the PSP port is absolutely horrible.
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Not Operator posted:I know its not Vita related but while it's on topic, was Mana Khemia 2 worth playing? I enjoyed the original a lot, but someone heavily dissuaded me from importing the sequel for reasons I can't remember. It's not bad, so to speak, just not really as good. PS2 Gust had a lot of really good games out at the time and it's pretty weak compared to some of the other stuff they had on offer. The character are nowhere near as fun and charming as the first game, and kind of range from 'eh' to intolerable shits. The new battle/alchemy systems aren't as good as the first game's either. The only real improvements are making weapons and items at the same place and if you don't have an item but you know how to make it, you can just automatically go to the synthesis screen for that item, which is actually real nice.
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SelenicMartian posted:Is Toukiden any different from all the other MonHun-likes? Yeah, it's a lot faster.
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