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SkeletonHero posted:Probably fairly early, unless the levels are adjusted in the final game. I bet there will be an appropriate +Spirit weapon for most if not all of the guardians. I sure hope so, that'd make a Spirit build even cooler. I want to be best friends with all the guardian spirits 
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Btw for weirdos like it seems the release date changed at some point between when they announced it and now. Originally it was announced as worldwide on the 9th but is now 7th for NA, 8th for EU, and 9th for JP.
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Harrow posted:The high risk of light armor is why I sadly won't be doing a katana/kusarigama build, I think. As much as I'd love to go heavy on Heart/Skill for that, I know I'm going to get owned over and over again if I don't have at least some protection from armor, so it's going to be Heart/Spirit with Body/Strength for armor. So I guess katanas with spears or axes as a backup (barring some great Raikiri-style weapons in other categories that scale well with Spirit). I'm really, really curious what abilities guardian spirits will have in the full game, because we only get to see what they offer up to 10-12 Spirit (depending on the individual spirit) in the demo and some of those abilities are already pretty great. The only way I won't be going for Spirit in my build is if what we saw was actually all/most of the abilities from the full game but they're just spread out more there, because that would be pretty underwhelming. Yeah I'm really really interested to see what other guardian spirits the game has and what all they have if you go deep in spirit. Its something that didn't even exist in any form in the souls games, very new mechanics that fit very well. Plus you get a cute little pokemon buddy CharlieFoxtrot posted:I enjoyed the demo, but seeing that video with the skill that allows you to barehanded parry is probably what sold me on this game. Blade catching is always the coolest thing in samurai movies and I'm glad this game knows it That skill was in the demo  And if you didn't notice, in-game there were videos to show you what each of the skills looked like. Which is great because the translations are awful and often misleading. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Dunno if you guys noticed, I overlooked it at first, but the Muneshige set totally had a set bonus, Diablo style. Having 2, 4, 6 pieces of the set equipped would give you different bonuses. So the loot system is gonna be full on Diablo.
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I nearly forgot that Amazon dot com Prime's super awesome discounts exist. This game is going to be the best $48 I spend this year.
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Jan 24, 2017 02:55
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I nearly forgot that Amazon dot com Prime's super awesome discounts exist. This game is going to be the best $48 I spend this year. Yup, used an Amazon Prime trial for the next 30 days so I can get Yakuza 0 (tomorrow!) and Nioh in 2 weeks.
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Zaphod42 posted:Dunno if you guys noticed, I overlooked it at first, but the Muneshige set totally had a set bonus, Diablo style. Having 2, 4, 6 pieces of the set equipped would give you different bonuses. I was sad that I couldn't refashion any armor to look like that set. I had better armor but that set looks sweet.
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Harrow posted:I was sad that I couldn't refashion any armor to look like that set. I had better armor but that set looks sweet. Huh? I had my whole set glamored to the warrior of the west set.
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Where is this from? Doesn't look like any place in the beta or the trial. Alpha?
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there wolf lmao posted:Where is this from? Doesn't look like any place in the beta or the trial. Alpha? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FXIlzYBbJE
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Wow, this is a great level. Reminds me of stonefang from DeS kinda. The level we got in the last beta was kinda weak, but the first betas had some more interesting stuff. Really hope Team Ninja comes up with some wild and crazy locations.
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Belzac posted:Huh? I had my whole set glamored to the warrior of the west set. What? Is it listed under a different name in the refashioning menu? Or can only certain armor be glamoured to it? I looked through the whole list and didn't see it even though I had every piece in my inventory.
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Everything was listed under Warrior of the West for me. I also had to kill him about 10 times for the full set. I also wore medium armor. Sometimes when picking up new pieces I would see "Smithing Text Added:" with the name of an item so maybe you have to get a certain drop. I strictly mash circle when picking up things so I never quite know if I picked up something weird.
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they replaced it with familiarity after the alpha
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Constellation I posted:Yup, used an Amazon Prime trial for the next 30 days so I can get Yakuza 0 (tomorrow!) and Nioh in 2 weeks. Amazon Prime pays for itself so quickly it's insane, doubly so if you live in a state where Amazon sales don't collect tax.
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poptart_fairy posted:By the way...did they remove a durability system or am I just remembering something that never existed in the first place? Yeah, we talked about it a lot a few pages ago. There was originally a durability system where things broke really fast to encourage you to try new weapons, but that meant endless inventory fiddling, even mid-mission, which sucked. They replaced durability with familiarity, which works opposite. Weapons never break, but the longer you use them, the more familiarity they gain, and you unlock bonus attributes or damage. And there are even special attacks which drain familiarity. Funny enough, whetstones are items which originally restored durability, so now they instead grant free familiarity. Which works great, but ... doesn't really make sense as a 'whetstone' anymore
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Well sure, you take care of your weapon which makes it more familiar as you become more intimate with it. Which ends up becoming real uncomfortable if you're one of those people who wants to gently caress inanimate objects.
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Belzac posted:Why not just i-frame the actual hit and not try to distance yourself. You'll dodge the damage better, be closer to go back to attacking quicker, usually end up behind the boss to do double damage from the back as well as increased ki damage, and look cool doing it. This game awards aggressiveness far more than it rewards passivity. Wow, this guy clearly knew what he was doing to a much greater degree than I did. What was that devil trigger thing? Are there any good videos out there that explain all the unique mechanics that are in this game but not Souls? The best I was able to find were some brief explanations on Ki pulsing.
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Holy poo poo do I like familiarity way more than durability I loving hate durability mechanics
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The Moon Monster posted:Wow, this guy clearly knew what he was doing to a much greater degree than I did. What was that devil trigger thing? The devil trigger is living weapon. Hard and Light attack at the same time to trigger it when the guardian spirit symbol is fully charged (it'll be pulsating). You get a burst of damage and your health bar and Ki bar get replaced with a new meter that goes down as you get hit and attack. Getting Amrita and ki pulsing fills it back up (to different degrees depending on guardian spirit). A perfect ki pulse also emits a damage wave that usually has enough power to inflict whatever your guardian spirit elemental type is on anything nearby.
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InfinityComplex posted:Well sure, you take care of your weapon which makes it more familiar as you become more intimate with it. Which ends up becoming real uncomfortable if you're one of those people who wants to gently caress inanimate objects. i think it would be extremely comfortable if you wanted to gently caress the inanimate object, actually
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CharlestonJew posted:i think it would be extremely comfortable if you wanted to gently caress the inanimate object, actually Unleash your animal spirit
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Belzac posted:Everything was listed under Warrior of the West for me. I also had to kill him about 10 times for the full set. I also wore medium armor. Huh, interesting. Maybe I just missed it in the list despite my searching. Either way, I'm glad it's an option, that set looks good as hell. DatonKallandor posted:A perfect ki pulse also emits a damage wave that usually has enough power to inflict whatever your guardian spirit elemental type is on anything nearby. poo poo, I never tried Ki pulsing with living weapon active, I had no idea it had a special effect. Hell yeah.
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The button command is actually Triangle + Circle, not light + heavy (which would be square and triangle). Pressing the combo again while it's active will also consume a part of the bar to throw your animal spirit out to do a ton of damage and is a good finisher.
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This is gonna be a long two weeks. I wanna play Nioh right now so badBelzac posted:The button command is actually Triangle + Circle, not light + heavy (which would be square and triangle). Pressing the combo again while it's active will also consume a part of the bar to throw your animal spirit out to do a ton of damage and is a good finisher. I also didn't know this! I just kept doing light/heavy attack combos trying to put out as much damage as possible, except when I got that katana skill that lets you hold heavy attack for a cool sword-flurry combo.
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All these things are in the advanced tutorial that was in the last chance trial. An actual little known mechanic is that if you manage to inflict two different elemental debuffs on a yokai they will be afflicted by a debuff that looks like a yingyang. Having the debuff will set their Ki to 0 and all attacks do double damage in addition to the effects of the two other debuffs applied.
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I skipped the tutorial because I figured, "I played the other demos, I know how to play Nioh now  " and clearly I was extremely wrong.
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Belzac posted:All these things are in the advanced tutorial that was in the last chance trial.  This game is so loving cool. I can't wait for the full release.
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And if you then hit them with a third status effect you'll reset the duration of the yin yang effect.
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Belzac posted:All these things are in the advanced tutorial that was in the last chance trial. For anybody actually looking for info on this, the mechanic is called "Discord"
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Do elemental effects from living weapon stack with elemental amulets? Man this discord mechanic is gonna be great for onymo and spirit users or onmyo users with an elemental weapon. So many great ideas in the game.
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The Moon Monster posted:
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Is there a list or does anyone know off hand what the different elemental debuffs are? Fire makes sense as a DOT because I can see the damage, but when I get an enemy hit with the water debuff I know it's been applied but I don't know what it does. Same with all the elements really. I would think lightning/earth would equal paralysis/poison, but since there are separate weapon enhancements for those conditions I don't think it's likely. Also, I know this is hella late advice but from the problems people were posting earlier about their experience, investing a few Ninjitsu points into Power Pellets and the poison weapon coating are strong investments that can probably be acquired with just the points gained from the ninja hair items. Poison works on most enemies that aren't bosses and can help take down a Yokai that's giving you trouble, and Power Pellets are a quick and easy way to boost your strength. Likewise, I found grabbing a weapon enhancement spell (water for the Last Chance demo) and the defense-lowering spell to be good uses of my Onmyo points, along with the passive abilities. Stacking buffs and debuffs seems easier and more important that in the Dark Souls games, especially since the items restore at every shrine. Actually, another question: Does the skill/ninjitsu stat increase the effectiveness of the Power Pellets? Or is it a static boost?
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