F1 Offseason 16/17 Thread: It was worth it for Keke.

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geonetix: Mar 6, 2011

ImplicitAssembler posted:

And Ross Brawn is in:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127860/brawn-returns-to-f1-in-senior-liberty-role

The Best Thing happened! F1 saved! Our American Overlords know what to do!

# ? Jan 24, 2017 08:25

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# ? May 9, 2024 13:17

Sneaks McDevious: Jul 29, 2010; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

I feel bad for Ross Brawn

# ? Jan 24, 2017 08:51

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Holy gently caress, cosworth guy is on the radio being all enthusiastic about the future of the sport

# ? Jan 24, 2017 08:55

Carth Dookie: Jan 28, 2013

Why? He's already done his Mercedes and Ferrari stint. By comparison dealing with Americans should be a cakewalk.

Especially if he brings actual cake to any meetings.

TBH I'm cautiously optimistic. Getting Ross on board at least suggests that the Americans have some idea of how to go about maintaining and improving the F1 situation.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 09:35

Brainwrong: Mar 20, 2004; RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

Well that's the worst F1 news since Senna died. The sport's hosed now.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 09:50

enri: Dec 16, 2003; Hope you're having an amazing day

https://twitter.com/DC_F1/status/823817001198120960

The return of the Brawn is good news

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:02

Dubs: Mar 6, 2007; Stroll Own Zone.
Disregard Stroll outside zone.

did bernie buy manor

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:22

HJB: Feb 16, 2011; I can't get enough of are Dan

GramCracker posted:

I know the writing was on the wall but am I really the only one sort of bummed to see Are Bernard leaving?

Aside from half the thread, yes

julian assflange posted:

I feel bad for Ross Brawn

He's setting up his retirement fund, he knows it's a short-term investment.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:28

Brainwrong: Mar 20, 2004; RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

Dubs posted:

did bernie buy manor

Seeing as he one of the richest men in the country, you have to assume he's quite good with his money. Why anyone with any financial sense would want to buy an F1 team is beyond me.

But, saying that, he is 408 years old and a bit mental, so it's anyone's guess.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:40

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

Brainwrong posted:

Seeing as he one of the richest men in the country, you have to assume he's quite good with his money. Why anyone with any financial sense would want to buy an F1 team is beyond me.

But, saying that, he is 408 years old and a bit mental, so it's anyone's guess.

If i had bernie money, i would buy an f-1 team just so i could slap a hilarious livery on the cars every weekend.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:42

Brainwrong: Mar 20, 2004; RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

Powershift posted:

If i had bernie money, i would buy an f-1 team just so i could slap a hilarious livery on the cars every weekend.

Oh god yes. I'd go further than that and give some of the "best" drivers who are out of work a crack at a race each weekend.

"Pastor, you free for Bahrain?"

"Hideki, can you make it to Silverstone this year?"

"Michael, can you do Monaco? Michael? MICHAEL? Wake up!. Lazy bugger"

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:46

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

Brainwrong posted:

Oh god yes. I'd go further than that and give some of the "best" drivers who are out of work a crack at a race each weekend.

"Pastor, you free for Bahrain?"

"Hideki, can you make it to Silverstone this year?"

"Michael, can you do Monaco? Michael? MICHAEL? Wake up!. Lazy bugger"

Maldonado and sutil, nicknamed crash and bash.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 10:59

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

I'd buy manor because under the current concord agreement major decisions have to be unanimously agreed upon by all teams before going though. If Bernie wanted to annoy Brawn that's the way to do it.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 11:05

Brainwrong: Mar 20, 2004; RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

Bernie once referred to HRT/Virgin/Manor/Good Lotus as "cripples" that needed to be "gotten rid of"

# ? Jan 24, 2017 11:43

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Remember the days one of the reasons for qualifying was that there were too many cars and it was a way of weeding out of backmarkers?

Bernie's refusal to bring F1 out of the 1980s is one of the reasons we don't have that now.

Not at all fun fact. Bernie allows one DVD release a year and that's because the FIA is allowed to no matter what he says because they are the FIA. There have never even been any VHS boxed sets, and not even Ferrari are allowed to put out a best of DVD. The man responsible for promoting F1 for the last 40 years Ladies and Gentlemen.

And people wonder why the audience is dropping?

# ? Jan 24, 2017 12:35

Brainwrong: Mar 20, 2004; RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

I cannot trust a man with a mustache.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 12:39

MZ: Apr 21, 2004; Excuse me while I kiss the sky.

Bernie out, Brawn in, biggest change to F1 in the 23 years I've been following it, I'm optimistic for some positive changes. It's probably too late for anything to happen in the 2017 season, but the years ahead will be interesting indeed.

Bernie has kept the sport in the dark ages for too long. F1 wasn't even broadcast in HD until a few years ago, years after every other sport was doing it.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 12:55

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Brainwrong posted:

I cannot trust a man with a mustache.

It's to hide a huge scar. I'm assuming he got that when he was a pirate and he started his empire with Treasure stolen from another weaker pirate.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:08

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

This list is one heck of a roller coaster ride:

quote:

Here's a quick top-10 list of things we know about Chase Carey:

10. As COO at Fox Inc. in the '90s, helped launch Fox News and Fox Sports.

9. Key figure in brokering the $1.58 billion deal between Fox Network and the NFL.

8. Former rugby player for Colgate University, where he received his undergraduate degree; he also holds a master�s degree from Harvard, where he played rugby for the Harvard Business School.

7. Has attended one Formula 1 race in his life (2016 Singapore Grand Prix).

6. In 2003, as CEO of DirecTV, Carey helped add 1 million subscribers and is credited for bringing the company back to profitability.

5. Longtime friend and close advisor to media magnate Rupert Murdoch.

4. He sports a handlebar mustache that hides a scar he received in a car accident.

3. Carey is a native New Yorker and a Yankees fan.

2. Has been know to drink the occasional Budweiser during his commuter train ride home (we expect a switch to Heineken -- a major F1 sponsor).

1. In 2013, talking about "The Simpsons," Carey called it "the best written show in the history of television."

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:11

Brainwrong: Mar 20, 2004; RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

If this new dawn means that F1 will have some sort of online pay-per-view subscription service that means I don't need Sky then I will applaud the hairy-lipped overlord.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:12

Carth Dookie: Jan 28, 2013

Brainwrong posted:

If this new dawn means that F1 will have some sort of reasonably priced online pay-per-view subscription service that means I don't need Sky then I will applaud the hairy-lipped overlord.

FTFY and then :same:

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:18

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

Brainwrong posted:

If this new dawn means that F1 will have some sort of online pay-per-view subscription service that means I don't need Sky then I will applaud the hairy-lipped overlord.

If Liberty does this, plus divides up money equitably between the teams, and revokes Ferrari's $100m bonus, I'd be hard pressed to complain. Unless their PPV stream included the Sky broadcast team, in which case I'd have to stab myself in the ears with a rusty screwdriver.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:20

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

I'm thinking that a man who can recognise that Bernie is too old and that Ross Brawn is the future, will very shortly be quietly retiring most of the Sky commentary team. Hopefully by offering Jenson Button and Antony Davidson lots of money. He does have the pull at Sky to be able to oust the terrible old boys club currently infesting our screens, hopefully by the start of 2017 season.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:29

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

I am being 100% sincere when I say this: I'd rather hear Darrell Waltrip work an F1 race in a solo booth than listen to the Sky team.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:47

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Ironically if Sky were filming the race and not FOM you would be able to turn off the commentary and listen to the cars and team radio uninterrupted. These are the people who have made cricket somehow not boring to watch, although having now seen Sky's cricket coverage it does make what they have been putting out for the F1 seem infinatly more depressing.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:45

dentist toy box: Oct 9, 2012; There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.

wicka posted:

I am being 100% sincere when I say this: I'd rather hear Darrell Waltrip work an F1 race in a solo booth than listen to the Sky team.

Tbh I'd listen to it once.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:04

Norns: Nov 21, 2011; Senior Shitposting Strategist

wicka posted:

I am being 100% sincere when I say this: I'd rather hear Darrell Waltrip work an F1 race in a solo booth than listen to the Sky team.

Boogity Boogity Boogity let's go racin in Baku boys!

Well done Baku.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 16:31

Tsaedje: May 11, 2007; BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Almost everything I've heard from Liberty has made me feel pretty at ease:

Chase Carey's bullet point analysis with the problems with F1 as it stands

The revenue system is skewed in favour of the already rich and powerful, to the extent that the smallest teams are struggling to survive and money is tight for about half the grid.
There is a lack of competition on track.
Television audience figures are dropping in many markets - although this is largely because of a switch to pay television, to make more money from TV rights deals.
The longest-standing races are struggling to fund themselves and risk dropping off the calendar
The decision-making process is not working properly.
Some significant business and sporting decisions have been made for solely financial reasons, disregarding other important factors, such as their effects on the sporting side.
An acceptance that F1 has lost some of its appeal, particularly a sense of edge and drama and as an extreme driver challenge.

A BBC article outlining some of what he's said since the deal was completed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38731760

# ? Jan 24, 2017 17:47

daslog: Dec 10, 2008; #essereFerrari

This is going to fail miserably. F1 can't succeed in the USA without massive government subsidies.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 18:27

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

I think that might be the car industry you are thinking about there.

This thread is showing quite the split between cautiously optimistic Europeans, and Americans who have lost all hope.

E: Reminder the man who will be in charge of the racing side of things worked in F1 for 40 years and led teams to 19 championships.

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jan 24, 2017

# ? Jan 24, 2017 18:45

Tsaedje: May 11, 2007; BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Brawn was pretty good at sniffing out (and exploiting) accidental pitfalls in the rule making process, he's a good guy to have around so we don't end up with kneejerk rules that are terrible

# ? Jan 24, 2017 18:52

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

learnincurve posted:

This thread is showing quite the split between cautiously optimistic Europeans, and Americans who have lost all hope.

Give me one god drat reason I should feel hopeful about anything right now. Even the loving French are probably going to elect a fascist.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 18:55

gret: Dec 12, 2005; goggle-eyed freak

This Carey fella is saying all the right things. I am excited.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:05

MattD1zzl3: Oct 26, 2007; Can't post for 4 years!

Tsaedje posted:

Brawn was pretty good at sniffing out (and exploiting) accidental pitfalls in the rule making process, he's a good guy to have around so we don't end up with kneejerk rules that are terrible

And hopefully decades in the sport will mean no dumb poo poo like split races or reverse grids.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:06

nsaP: May 4, 2004; alright?

Hamilton posted a snap of him jogging and he was listening to A$AP Rocky - Fuckin' Problems.

lol

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:06

F1DriverQuidenBerg: Jan 19, 2014

wicka posted:

Give me one god drat reason I should feel hopeful about anything right now. Even the loving French are probably going to elect a fascist.

I just don't even care anymore, the lever got pulled let's see what kind of crazy happens. My only real complaint is that I was hopeful that NAFTA was going to get ripped up but apparently things between USA and Canada are just peachy so we aren't even going to get that.

I generally checked out of politics when the son of the founder of the pension gutting firm full of grease bags I have to deal with on a weekly basis got made finance minister and proceeded to tell all young people to "Get hosed" for expecting a stable job. Oh and this is our center left party.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:08

MattD1zzl3: Oct 26, 2007; Can't post for 4 years!

like 40% of something awful . com forums is a great place to bitch about politics. SAS is not one of those places.

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:18

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

Hitler

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:20

F1DriverQuidenBerg: Jan 19, 2014

MattD1zzl3 posted:

like 40% of something awful . com forums is a great place to bitch about politics. SAS is not one of those places.

Let's discuss your weird anime avatar instead. Why do you like anime? Have you ever run into Nando at an anime convention?

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:21

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# ? May 9, 2024 13:17

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

The telegraph have put Bernie on trial http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2017/01/24/bernie-ecclestone-mock-trial-f1s-greatest-advocate-scourge-sport/

# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:21

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