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Tiler Kiwi posted:i voted for her in the general, and while i think bernie would have won, i don't actually care if you agree with that, and i dont actually think others care that much aside from this: bern it down
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My Imaginary GF posted:i dont understand why folk keep saying sanders would have won. he lost. Voting for Bernie twice would have made me more happy & fulfilled then voting for Bernie once and Hillary once tho. Gene Hackman Fan posted:look, y'all: republicans are gonna republican, and those who are acting all shocked and surprised by that are part of the problem. the problem is that hillary, et al, think they can win by continuing to act like republicans when we have yet another fresh tally mark on an already-crowded side for "that poo poo don't work" because people will go for the real thing instead of someone whose words say progressive and actions say g.o.p. For all the grump about Trump being a con artist, when you look back on it, Hillary is basically one too lol. Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 11:13 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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My Early Morning Hot Takes: Hillary both failed and was failed. Jeff Weaver would have found a way to lose. Don't engage with Error 404/Princess Di/oh, pick a poster. Except me. I'm lovely.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 11:49 |
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Menno would have won.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 11:49 |
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i can't believe princess di is still defending hillary and her lovely campaign btw, i'm your greatest enemy princess di, a democrat who didn't vote for hillary
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 12:02 |
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Princess Di posted:Now I know you're from New York. You sound like a friend of mine from there. Oh god, you are making me miss that place. I'm not from NYC. I was born in Ecuador and immigrated here. I just live here.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 12:54 |
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Homeless Friend posted:For all the grump about Trump being a con artist, when you look back on it, Hillary is basically one too lol. I've said it before, I'll say it again: the only thing Hillary is good at is convincing others she knows what she is doing.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:04 |
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What's this from
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:17 |
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GalacticAcid posted:What's this from http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/democrats-trump-administration-wilderness-comeback-revival-214650
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:25 |
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grazie yeah it's all pretty bleak, friends
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:29 |
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it does remind me on how offensively absurd it is for a party that has control of congress due to gerrymandering, that has control of the executive due to the electoral college, to complain that the left's protests are an attempt to subvert democracy and the will of the public i sure hate the right
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:34 |
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we’ll see how popular Trump and the GOP are in 2 years
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:42 |
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:we’ll see how popular Trump and the GOP are in 2 years i want them to be unpopular, but it really doesn't matter how popular they are when the country is gerrymandered to hell and back and local government remains a conservative fuckplane forever
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:46 |
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:we’ll see how popular Trump and the GOP are in 2 years Yea but can you imagine what kind of cult goons are gonna create around the next astroturfed, Wallstreet backed poo poo heap of a candidate? Post the map If you don't like our candidate, don't vote for her
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:47 |
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Serf posted:i want them to be unpopular, but it really doesn't matter how popular they are when the country is gerrymandered to hell and back and local government remains a conservative fuckplane forever they can’t gerrymander governor and senate races, go after those, then worry about the rest
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:55 |
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My public position is "you could interact with me or not, I don't really care." My private position is "please interact with me, i derive validation from internet randos"
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 13:55 |
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Yea but can you imagine what kind of cult goons are gonna create around the next astroturfed, Wallstreet backed poo poo heap of a candidate? hey now, do we really have to pick on people who supported her? I don't remember anyone being mean to Bernie supporfaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:05 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/democrats-trump-administration-wilderness-comeback-revival-214650 Actually, there are state congressional elections + gov in Virginia this year. It's a state narrowly held by Republicans in one chamber, held overwhelmingly by them in the other, and it's the best chance to show there is still life in the DNC. If they give a poo poo about their party, they need to hit the ground running in VA right loving now. 2018 means nothing at this moment. All that matters is showing they can make advancements in this very critical state. tadashi has issued a correction as of 14:10 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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We are so hosed.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:07 |
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tadashi posted:Actually, there are state congressional elections + gov in Virginia this year. It's a state narrowly held by Democrats and it's the best chance to show there is still life in the DNC. If they give a poo poo about their party, they need to hit the ground running in VA right loving now. 2018 means nothing at this moment. All that matters is showing they can make advancements in this very critical state. there might be state legislative elections in north carolina as well depending on how the federal courts rule
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:09 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:there might be state legislative elections in north carolina as well depending on how the federal courts rule Yet another reason to stop fussing about 2018 and get our/their poo poo together. We know what people want. Populist messages work. Middle-ground hemming and hawing does not work. Also, Hillary won some Republican (US) congressional districts in VA, so it's doable.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:11 |
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Sans Clinton, Donald Trump is deeply polarizing and this will play a role in how people go out to vote. comedy option: GOP dumps Trump after he makes some serious foreign policy fuckups Dead Cosmonaut has issued a correction as of 14:28 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Sans Clinton, Donald Trump is deeply polarizing and this will play a role in how people go out to vote. A lot of the success in 2006 was because of Republicans who got fed up with W. It could happen again. The question is how to keep the people who flip their vote around because state political candidates tend to slip into seats because nobody knows anything other than their platform positions and then they get to be awful for as long as they like.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:33 |
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Wow a lot of stuff happened after I went to sleep
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:33 |
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Lol at anyone who thinks that the Dems won't lose at least 4 seats, probably more. There's like 24 who caucus with Dems in 2018, and only 8 Republicans. Many of the Dems who are up again are brand new Dems who rode the Obama wave in 2012 and a lot of them are in red states. At least Hillary's campaign will be one of the last abortions we see before they're outlawed.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:38 |
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Bernie would of one Bernie would have everyone.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 14:39 |
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Thoguh posted:Bernie would have everyone. bernie's such a slut edit: apparently now it's not just russia conspiring against the US to bring us trump, china was in on it too! https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/823695702513459200 et tu mao? Condiv has issued a correction as of 14:46 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Hello friends I've been gone for a couple days and I just wanted to say *leans in too close to mic* Bernie would have won
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:03 |
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:they can’t gerrymander governor and senate races, go after those, then worry about the rest Better not look at how were doing on that front
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Tiler Kiwi posted:it does remind me on how offensively absurd it is for a party that has control of congress due to gerrymandering, that has control of the executive due to the electoral college, to complain that the left's protests are an attempt to subvert democracy and the will of the public
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:07 |
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Condiv posted:bernie's such a slut Donald Trump can't melt steal beams.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:08 |
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Here's the fun thing about the gerrymandering that the GOP has put together: they've spread out their voters to have close majorities in as many districts as possible, and packed Dems into as few very safe districts as possible. This works great as long as the election is close. But if the side that spread out its voters hits a wall and the other side wins by a good margin, the gerrymandering side is turbofucked and will lose almost everything. This happened to the GOP in 2006: they had gerrymandered the hell out of Pennsylvania, ran into the Mark Foley wave, and lost almost every house seat in the state. OR I guess we could just sit around and complain about how the deck is stacked against Dems, oh well, nothing we can do
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shirts and skins posted:Here's the fun thing about the gerrymandering that the GOP has put together: they've spread out their voters to have close majorities in as many districts as possible, and packed Dems into as few very safe districts as possible. Option 1 sounds good. Lets go with option 1.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:27 |
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Hey so uh David Brooks y'all
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Hey so uh David Brooks y'all did he finally do the needful and eat a shotgun?
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:58 |
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Trump just announced he's green lighting DAPL. For nostalgia sake, what did Clinton say? quote:We received a letter today from representatives of the tribes protesting the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline. From the beginning of this campaign, Secretary Clinton has been clear that she thinks all voices should be heard and all views considered in federal infrastructure projects. Now, all of the parties involved—including the federal government, the pipeline company and contractors, the state of North Dakota, and the tribes—need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest. As that happens, it's important that on the ground in North Dakota, everyone respects demonstrators' rights to protest peacefully, and workers' rights to do their jobs safely. She says nothing. It's amazing how many people accuse Sanders of not having a plan or hating specifics but think that this level of lovely double speak was nuanced discourse and not a useless deflection. The party going forward has to really understand that their number one job, especially for the presidency, is marketing. They need to stop being terrified of not fulfilling stated expectations because it's unironically causing them to undersell. Sell a vision. Get people to vote on that vision. Even if you don't win, make them put on paper that they want their constituents to die in back alleys and ER waiting rooms. Then use severe language. Tell them if Al Qaeda killed 42,000 Americans a year we'd bomb them to hell but when the Republicans do it they just get rich. Is the number 4 coming with sauce or is this one of those deals where you motherfuckers want an extra 50 cents?
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 15:58 |
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The central challenge today is not how to celebrate difference. The central threat is not the patriarchy. The central challenge is to rebind a functioning polity and to modernize a binding American idea. I loathed Trump’s inaugural: It offered a zero-sum, ethnically pure, backward-looking brutalistic nationalism. But it was a coherent vision, and he is rallying a true and fervent love of our home. If the anti-Trump forces are to have a chance, they have to offer a better nationalism, with diversity cohering around a central mission, building a nation that balances the dynamism of capitalism with biblical morality. The march didn’t come close. Hint: The musical “Hamilton” is a lot closer.
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mugrim posted:The party going forward has to really understand that their number one job, especially for the presidency, is marketing. No. The main job of the POTUS is to act as commander and chief of our armed forces and behave as our representative on foreign policy. Trump is going to be such a foreign policy fuckup that the Dems should run someone who is cut for the job, not a complete failure like Clinton was.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Hey so uh David Brooks y'all Holy poo poo, I was just sitting here thinking "man, I am kind of agreeing with David Brooks what the gently caress is going on, but he's being unreasonably harsh cause he's a loving jerk" then I get to the end quote:If the anti-Trump forces are to have a chance, they have to offer a better nationalism, with diversity cohering around a central mission, building a nation that balances the dynamism of capitalism with biblical morality. gently caress DAVID BROOKS. all is right in the world again.
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