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That tweet is priceless marketing. I am MoMA's now weekly meltdowns when CIG do something stupid.
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Chunjee posted:Here we go again. Round 2: As an anti-shop, can somebody please give Shaun Tracy some non ridiculous hair
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Chalks posted:How about we see zero pictures of people at work and more actual results of that work such as a single design document for promised features, a vertical slice or a single piece of loving gameplay from this single player campaign? CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach.
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DapperDon posted:No, I have not unless you count my own company that has made me a decent living for the past 14 years. Why do you ask? 
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Guys listen, I know SQ42 wasn't all it was cracked up to be (I personally loved it), but this a first time outing from a rookie studio. Its not really fair to give them so much grief over this. Subsequent games as the team becomes more cohesive should be much better!
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Jan 24, 2017 20:07
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. Yea, foolish them, laying a functional groundwork before actually expanding scope. What idiots.
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. That's literally what CIG has been doing for years now though. Build modules, release, build the PU, add to PU. In the beginning the big differrence was CIG was gonna release SC as the full game while Elite was gonna expand over time. That quickly changed when CIG realized that meant backers would see nothing for 8-10 years.
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. Ok. So why this photo is the only evidence of work being done? How come we're not seeing more actual results of that work such as a single design document for promised features, a vertical slice or a single piece of gameplay from this single player campaign?
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Tippis posted:Ok. So why this photo is the only evidence of work being done? Because they don't have any of these things? Oh wait, they do have all these things, they just can't show them to anyone because they have the most open development ever
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. I like CIG's approach of sell ships, sell some more, have another sale, then when the money runs out try to make a game. Truly innovators in their field.
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. 
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Anus Man posted:Star Citizen is not Elite. Elite is a game.
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ManofManyAliases posted:gently caress them for trying right? Give more.
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Jan 24, 2017 20:34
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Every time they find a problem they can't solve Sean Tracy rubs his head.
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MoMA I know plenty of people are lining up to do take-downs on you but...ManofManyAliases posted:but yeah - immediately peg the negative. ManofManyAliases posted:You never worked in a start-up, have you? When faced with a company with hundreds of millions of dollars, located in multiple countries worldwide, with hundreds of employees, working with the studios that did the Lord of the Rings and has been in operation for more than four years but has delivered nothing do you A) Call them a start-up because that's a pamphlet talking point and makes them look favorably, excusing their non-delivery. or B) Call them a company with hundreds of million in revenue, located in multiple countries worldwide, with hundreds of employees, working with the studios that did the Lord of the Rings and has been in operation for more than four years but has delivered nothing Maybe don't "immediately peg the positive" in such an obviously delusional way. At this point you can replace your posts with "I paid $8,000 for a videogame" and get across the same amount of stupidity.
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is that what they meant by a Hairy Roberts?
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They anit working with any studio that did Lord of the Rings.
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If you are going that route, Goons financed and made swap.avi. 1 out of 2 is still better than 0 out of 2 from CIG.
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Poor MoMAToast keeps getting more aggressive. I hope everything is okay
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ManofManyAliases posted:gently caress them for trying right? If they play around in a live stream or photo, they get chastised for acting like retards and not paying attention to developing a game. If they get serious, focused and look like they're actually concerned in a meeting, they get chastised for doing so.  really tho you know what'll cheer 'em up moma, put another jav on your expense account
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Daztek posted:Poor MoMAToast keeps getting more aggressive. I hope everything is okay Nah. Where would the fun be in that?
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happyhippy posted:If you are going that route, Goons financed and made swap.avi. I hope there are some people who have never heard of swap.avi and are now going to look it up.
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Scruffpuff posted:Imagine if CIG hired a competent, professional marketer, with the instructions to show their backers all the progress and work going toward Star Citizen. Then think how long it would take this professional marketer to realize that CIG is not making any progress worth reporting, and that it's not actually a real game development company, but rather a large group of industry wannabes given over $140 million to enact a multinational piece of wish-fulfillment performance theater. To be fair to CIG, they put enormous effort into showing their backers the heaps and mounds of content they haven't done, remember the Road to Citizencon
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:To be fair to CIG, they put enormous effort into showing their backers the heaps and mounds of content they haven't done, remember the Road to Citizencon
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. Star Citizen, by contrast, is an add first, add later approach
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ManofManyAliases posted:You never worked in a start-up, have you?  So CIG is still classed as a start-up after 5 years? It explains a lot tbh.
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his nibs posted:As an anti-shop, can somebody please give Shaun Tracy some non ridiculous hair 
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Star Citizen, by contrast, is an add first, add later approach jpeg first, sell it, make it - so it doesnt match jpeg, say gently caress it and patch it in the game. win.
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Chunjee posted:Here we go again. Round 2: I feel sorry for the people on the other end of that conference call. If Roberts' shorts are too tight, they're going to get a great outline of his genitals. Too loose, and they might well be looking directly at his personal Vanduul ship-starting spear. Dude should have wooed Ginger Lynn when he made Wing Commander III.
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ManofManyAliases posted:gently caress them for trying right? It's not that they're trying, it's that they're failing.
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Tippis posted:Nah. That's not the hilarious part. The hilarious part is that, if they actually pushed this concept — the unanchored player-centric space as the subjective “scene” — then they wouldn't even need all the other fancy tech they've been talking about. They wouldn't need 64bit positioning because nothing in that subjective space would require that precision. They wouldn't need local physics grids, because you are only ever exactly where you are and everything else is just Algebra 101 base transforms. What they'd need is the exact thing they're not doing: highly customised and hardened server code running on custom hardware to deal with the (relatively) low-data, but matrix-operation-heavy requirements of keeping track of everyone. Isn´t that the way Elite does it actually? As far as I know the local Elite instance where players are is really a bubble (an "island" in FDEV dev speech) that loads everything around the player and does not need 64b precision. The "island" itself moves within the 64b precision maps that are Elite full scale 1:1 star systems (including planetary surfaces) etc. Is SC megamap thingy a dynamic instance that moves within somehting else? How does megamap handles a ship moving in quantum? MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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scrubs season six posted:It's not that they're trying, it's that they're failing. Also, it's questionable whether they're actually trying.
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If we use our powers for good, can we persuade Sean to shave his head?
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To be honest, Sean needs to pick up a copy of this:
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Kosumo posted:They anit working with any studio that did Lord of the Rings. They have been going to the imaginarium repeatedly for years and using / working with Andy Serkis. I just didn't realize that it was even more expensive than what was used on the Lord of the Rings since Andy Serkis opened it up after those movies were complete. quote:Filmography Fine "Most expensive motion capture in the world even more expensive than filming lord of the rings" then.
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Chunjee posted:Here we go again. Round 2: Never forget. This shite, which nobody has seen since Oct 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qexLUpQJPw8
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ManofManyAliases posted:CIG is not Elite. The models are not the same, whereas elite is a build first add later approach. Elite is "build a solid foundation first and then continue to build on it with small alterations when necessary" SC is "Build the 4th, 5th and 7th floor at the same time while ignoring the foundation because we can always go back and fix that later. Whats that nothing fits? Make it fit!"
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