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ahahahahaahahah trump literally hasn't run any of his EO's through anyone this is going to end well
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emfive posted:Do the math. Pick a size for a stretch of wall, think about the primary secondary and tertiary costs, and multiply it out. You could be right. However, it's not the cost that bothers me most. It's the utter uselessness of it, and the shame of erecting a national monument to Donald's hubris and our nation's shameful bigotry.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:44
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i agree with the first one
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Yossarian-22 posted:The stimulus literally did that, although progressive economists say it should've been bigger. Trump's stimulus is mostly tax cuts Really because I was under the impression that most of the jobs created under the Obama administration have been low-paid, service industry jobs with little in the way of security or benefits while decent jobs continued to be outsourced at an alarming rate. I mean it seems like the election of Donald Trump kind of proves that Obama was a failure don't you think? That's why he had such a grump-face at the inauguration
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Jan 26, 2017 03:45
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hey i have a question about our stupid civil court system if congress passed the equivalent of the Ermächtigungsgesetz to give trump dictatorial powers, pretty much everyone would agree it was unconstitutional, but who exactly would have "standing" to get it into the court system?
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Jan 26, 2017 03:45
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Schnorkles posted:ahahahahaahahah trump literally hasn't run any of his EO's through anyone my guess is they just totally throw out the law and do whatever they can to make the EO happen. he's ruling by decree at this point. bannon's decrees
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Jan 26, 2017 03:45
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Ron Jeremy posted:Evan Osnos was on fresh air today talking about his article about the Silicon Valley rich becoming doomsday preppers. I had run across this previously when the Hawaiian raised eBay founder turned out to have a 90 day supply of emergency food and medicine in an undisclosed location in Hawaii. I hope Thiel has plenty of True Blood or nubile young males to derive sustenance from in the vault.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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every day when i wake up there is new horror
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Nichael posted:You could be right. However, it's not the cost that bothers me most. It's the utter uselessness of it, and the shame of erecting a national monument to Donald's hubris and our nation's shameful bigotry. not gonna lie i'd much prefer a gently caress-off tall skyscraper or crazy expensive space program to the wall. like pierce the heavens with your rocket dick donald, what the gently caress.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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dude always looks like he's about to tell you "I'm sorry sir/ma'm, there was nothing we could do"
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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Anyone know how to turn off sigs on the awful app? I only see an option for avatars
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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Think about how much a modest commercial office building costs to build in a suburban area with roads and water and electricity available. Now think about doing this in the middle of nowhere with no amenities at all, no food, no power, no nothing. Everything has to be trucked in. Everything. Even if you're forming West Bank style concrete slabs, they're being dragged in across tens of miles of roadless wilderness. Then there's the foundation excavation so that the loving thing doesn't just fall over in the first big hurricane that blows through. The border wall makes the Space Elevator look like a sober rational proposition.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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"he wont actually build the wall" say Trump voters gonna start all those construction workers on ANOTHER project, they'll never finish my street at this rate daggummit
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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back of the napkin math suggests costs for the square footage for a 2000, 40 foot tall and 10 foot thick wall at a minimum of $20 billion, for materials alone cams you weren't kidding about $14 billion be exceptionally generousit'll be "$14 billion" like "we'll be treated as liberators and be out quickly" this thing is going to be an incredible disaster
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Jan 26, 2017 03:46
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the black husserl posted:anybody with actual knowledge of policy mechanics wanna tell the thread how this is actually going to go down? everything is going to get tied up in court. the problem isn't necessarily trump's authority, its that if you issue an EO that contradicts something else [like, say, a law] the entire thing turns into a clusterfuck right quick
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Jan 26, 2017 03:47
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I think that taxing remittances is probably my favorite method of reimbursing ourselves for the Wall from Mexico's coffers. Though I'm sure there are others with valid arguments for them too
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Jan 26, 2017 03:47
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On the upside I think a real resistance is starting to form.
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Dick Milhous Rock! posted:back of the napkin math suggests costs for the square footage for a 2000, 40 foot tall and 10 foot thick wall at a minimum of $20 billion, for materials alone You, me and the American public will never actually know how much The Wall costs. Some say they're building it still.
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Nichael posted:A trillion seems a little crazy. I imagine like 100 billion or so. the actual monetary figure is pretty irrelevant, you can't wall off a continent except in children's literature
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Jan 26, 2017 03:48
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And if he's issuing EO's that involve how moneys are apportioned then he actually needs to go to congress, and if he issues orders that are vague agencies can and will just ignore them or do completely bizarre things because they don't provide clear instruction
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Jan 26, 2017 03:48
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trump is going to build the wall in a few places and then be like "duh, why would we build it in the desert, that makes no sense?" and then his supporters will be like "wisdom!"
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Jan 26, 2017 03:48
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Baller Ina posted:"he wont actually build the wall" say Trump voters even today there was some rando republican congressman still trying the "hurrrrrr take him seriously but not literally" bullshit
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Scent of Worf posted:Anyone know how to turn off sigs on the awful app? I only see an option for avatars You probably have to turn it off on the web in your user settings
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Jan 26, 2017 03:48
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It just occurred to me. Given the transfer of power and Trumps Jackson boner, the Harriet Tubman $20 is hosed, right?
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Jan 26, 2017 03:48
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Vladimir Putin posted:On the upside I think a real resistance is starting to form. lmao that this isn't a photoshop 
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Jan 26, 2017 03:48
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idk if this got posted yet but lol http://jezebel.com/broad-city-is-about-to-get-a-little-dark-1791629614
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Jan 26, 2017 03:49
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Most importantly, and this is something to remember as these things start going to court, when the executive or government issues vague and/or unclear laws and/or orders, the jurist who is most likely to strike them down is a textualist. You will note what type of judges republicans want.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:49
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turns out congress approved the wall to be a special operations project so the financials are classified.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:49
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Schnorkles posted:everything is going to get tied up in court. Can executive orders be straight up ignored if they are outside the legal authority of the President?
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the black husserl posted:lmao that this isn't a photoshop yeah it is shot with a long lens to make it look closer to the white house than it is (i know that part of town v well) but it's for real
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Jan 26, 2017 03:50
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Dick Milhous Rock! posted:lol 14 billion yeah this poo poo is gonna be, uh, twelve figures
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the black husserl posted:I just realized that a lot of you who go "I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE, GTG TUNING OUT OF POLITICS FOREVER " probably don't smoke weed massachusetts is dumb and gay and wont let us open pot shops until mid next year (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dick Milhous Rock! posted:back of the napkin math suggests costs for the square footage for a 2000, 40 foot tall and 10 foot thick wall at a minimum of $20 billion, for materials alone You're ignoring delivery costs. Have you ever seen the border? Have you checked how far much of it is from, like, roads? Raw materials cost (concrete and rebar I guess) is probably a relatively minor part of the overall cost.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:50
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$20 billion if the concrete were magically teleported onto freshly prepared earth with no labor, shipping or security involved jesus gently caress just the security force required is going to push the whole project into monthly operations in Iraq territory if it gets longer than a hundred or so miles
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Jan 26, 2017 03:50
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Baller Ina posted:"he wont actually build the wall" say Trump voters Well building the wall is kind of like America punching itself in the face. It won't do anything and it's going to cost a lot of money. If you're really serious about stopping the flow of undocumented people, you need to hire more people to police it. Otherwise people will just build ladders or seige-machine like steps to get themselves over.
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Jan 26, 2017 03:51
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Think of all the GDP
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someone translate this https://twitter.com/EPN/status/824447050066468865 fucken wall now who wants to watch dear leader on abc e: https://twitter.com/passantino/status/824448602579755008
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That DICK! posted:It just occurred to me. Given the transfer of power and Trumps Jackson boner, the Harriet Tubman $20 is hosed, right? Completely hosed. But honestly, and I'm an "EVERY FIGHT MATTERS" kinda person, and as lovely as this is, it really doesn't matter right now. They'll quietly kill it next week and our necks will be so deep in garbage we'll barely notice. I loved that Tubman was going to be on the $20. I think it would have a real effect on society to see her face everyday. When we kick these fascists and cowards out of our country, we'll put her on every loving bill.
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maybe the cost of the wall will get trump to invest in a laser fence.
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