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site posted:Oh dont get me wrong i have faith in ewing to write something good, i just have no faith in editorial mandate to hand down good directives for inhumans at this point The editorial mandate for Contest of Champions was "write a tie-in comic for this iPad game" and Ewing managed to make something incredible, so I don't see why he couldn't do the same for Royals.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:11
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Rhonne posted:What would be the most unsatisfying ending for IvX? the absolute most unsatisfying and annoying option? Inhumans 'win', mutants die, we get yet another rehash of the 'no more mutants' -> 'one very special baby' -> time bullshit -> 'why'd we even do this' concepts. The most likely unsatisfying ending? They find a last minute way to reduce but maintain the death cloud so the Inhumans keep their magic fart gas, X-Men somehow apologize for not wanting to be genocided and leave the Inhumans alone without any followup 'so you were just gonna let us die for your weird eugenics thing huh', any major damage is undone or compensated for with replacements for lost locations and poo poo and this was just a way to kill time with an 'event' that will be forgotten quickly.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:35
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Tatum Girlparts posted:the absolute most unsatisfying and annoying option? Inhumans 'win', mutants die, we get yet another rehash of the 'no more mutants' -> 'one very special baby' -> time bullshit -> 'why'd we even do this' concepts. We know some of the fall out the royals go to the moon, and the x-men have their school in Central Park
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Jan 27, 2017 06:38
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Teenage Fansub posted:Actually the Inhumans are cool and nice and good! Yeah all of the Inhumans titles have been very good. Until this crossover about a fight between two sides decided to make one really dumb for... some... reason... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP-hMSQEAE4 IT'S THE SAME HERO V HERO EVENT AS THE LAST HALF DOZEN Tatum Girlparts posted:the absolute most unsatisfying and annoying option? Inhumans 'win', mutants die, we get yet another rehash of the 'no more mutants' -> 'one very special baby' -> time bullshit -> 'why'd we even do this' concepts. Well in Uncanny right now Maximus is about to crack the code for Terrigen and whip up his own, so he could potentially end the conflict by going "Hey guys I have new crystals, we don't have to rely on the death cloud!" but he's Maximus, so he's probably gonna be a huge rear end in a top hat about it somehow. Probably make a second death cloud that will kill everyone for kicks.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:49
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in the miles spider-man book they had shield doing a fake drug bust over artificial terrigen as a shield thing. the cloud makes even less sense if you can just make that poo poo
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Jan 27, 2017 06:51
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Beast is cool and nice and good! 
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Jan 27, 2017 06:52
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TwoPair posted:
And poo poo like this is exactly the reason I love Maximus.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:54
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Teenage Fansub posted:Beast is cool and nice and good! Beast sucks.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:58
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Manatee Cannon posted:in the miles spider-man book they had shield doing a fake drug bust over artificial terrigen as a shield thing. the cloud makes even less sense if you can just make that poo poo Except wasn't the artificial terrigen just a fake part of Maria Hill's incredibly convoluted SHIELD initiation test? Teenage Fansub posted:Beast is cool and nice and good! whoa whoa, now you're undermining my defense of Inhumans.
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Jan 27, 2017 07:00
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:The editorial mandate for Contest of Champions was "write a tie-in comic for this iPad game" and Ewing managed to make something incredible, so I don't see why he couldn't do the same for Royals. Its weird cuz i swear i said in the post that you're quoting that i said i think Ewing can write a good story. not to mention no one actually gave a poo poo about contest of champions (even though, yes it was a fun book) since it had no ramifications on anything whatsoever (except a mention of iso-8 in ultimates 1 and thats it) But editorial brought us ivx and so far not exactly excellent??? site fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jan 27, 2017 |
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Jan 27, 2017 07:36
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Doctor Strange was good. The whole arc has been weirdly fun.
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Jan 27, 2017 07:42
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Rhyno posted:Kill Beast, bring back Cyclops. Kill Beast, bring back pre-Morrison Beast. Then kill young Cyclops.
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Jan 27, 2017 07:43
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young cyclops is alright
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Jan 27, 2017 08:03
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site posted:Its weird cuz i swear i said in the post that you're quoting that i said i think Ewing can write a good story. not to mention no one actually gave a poo poo about contest of champions (even though, yes it was a fun book) since it had no ramifications on anything whatsoever (except a mention of iso-8 in ultimates 1 and thats it) Oh, don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from. I'm just saying that it's hard for me, at least, to get too worked up over Bad Editorial Mandates when Ewing has a track record of writing really good stories, editorial mandates be damned. Hell, his first (I think?) Marvel work was a loving Age of Ultron crossover, and it was really good, and anyone who can spin gold out of that particular pile of dung-covered straw is worth having some faith in, is all I'm saying.
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Jan 27, 2017 08:11
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Manatee Cannon posted:young cyclops is alright But one day he'll grow up into Cyclops!
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Jan 27, 2017 08:13
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Lurdiak posted:But one day he'll grow up into Cyclops! yea and that guy's dead so w/e
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Jan 27, 2017 08:15
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Is he though? Is he really?
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Jan 27, 2017 08:17
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I made the wise decision to read Hulk and T.A. Hulk after CWII: The Oath (utter garbage - I have no idea what he's even trying to say with HydraCap, and I'm not sure he does anymore as it's just half-baked allegory and contemporaneous references), and I continue to be blown away by how drat effective Hulk is. (http://comicsalliance.com/strip-panel-naked-tamki-leon-hulk/) I am so invested, the characters are all memorable, and I am loving the tension of her struggle to contain her anger and rage and the creative team are working so well together. Even the logo is clever! T.A. Hulk was just lovely, with the heroes hanging out, doing actual good for people and the fight over the bill was wonderful. As a bonus, both these issues feature gay characters revealed in natural ways, to the enhancement of the issue and the supporting cast.
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Jan 27, 2017 11:44
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Oh yeah, Totally Awesome Hulk was great this week. I actually kinda thought it was a little unremarkable until the bill fight happened and then suddenly I was like, "Ah, I get it now. I see what you're going for here, Greg Pak.  "
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Jan 27, 2017 12:52
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http://www.comicbookherald.com/my-marvelous-year/ I've had the really dumb idea to go through all of this
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Jan 27, 2017 16:49
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I liked that last She Hulk run as much as anyone else, but if you were to tell last-year-me that right now the book I'm most excited about is "Hulk" starring Jen who isn't even in her green form anymore, I'd be (have been?) pretty skeptical. And Iron Man starring a teen(?) girl. And Iron Man starring Dr. Doom. Like Marvel I don't know what the hell you're doing these days but it's working for me. They managed to get me to not even care much that the X-line is mostly bland.
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Jan 27, 2017 16:56
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Okay, I don't follow Inhumans religiously because my hackles go up if I feel something is being pushed. I'm a contrary dick, sue me. But, the general outline of IvX is: 1) The Inhumans build a sovereign nation off the coast of New York, America is cool with this for some reason. 2) Blackagar Boltagon releases the Terrigen cloud with a bomb? 3a) Terrigen mists mutate people (Usually into monsters, sometimes into something useful), and once you're an Inhuman Attilan claims sovereignty over you? 3b) If you're a mutant it kills you And now the X-Men are trying to stop the cloud because they don't want to be genocided or forced to abandon the planet? Yet they seem to be being portrayed as the bad guys? Inhumans are against the cloud being stopped because it's holy to them? Kamala is involved for some reason despite coming out of CWII going 'Man, hero-on-hero fights are loving retarded'? I feel like I'm missing a lot of pieces, or much like how Marvel was pushing Carol in CWII, they're completely tonedeaf as to who the audience will sympathize with? also beast continues to be a fuckhead.
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Nobody tell this person how the city was set up and the cloud was released, cause it means they haven't read Infinity and need to drop everything and correct their lives. edit: Man, looking back, that was such a good time. Did anything come of Thanos' son? Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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Jan 28, 2017 04:48
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Someone literally needs to grab the entire Hickman run of Avengers and all its related books. Start with the Now stuff and keep going until the end of Secret Wars. Maybe that's why Marvel feels so lackluster lately, we just got off like 2 years of fantastic books and the majors aren't measuring up to that. Thane showed up in the Black Vortex Guadians/X-men crossover event, and was involved in the destruction of Hala. Wait was he the one who destroyed Hala? I can't remember.
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Jan 28, 2017 05:01
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Teenage Fansub posted:edit: Man, looking back, that was such a good time. Did anything come of Thanos' son? well in the current thanos book, he's recruiting some people to kill his dad
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Jan 28, 2017 05:08
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Clawtopsy posted:-snip- The city was invisible and floating over Manhattan, but yes. The Inhumans are huge jerks who only pay lip service to caring about anyone else as long as it doesn't cost them anything. Black Bolt was already planning to detonate the bomb and gently caress up millions of peoples' lives without warning even before Thanos attacked.
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Jan 28, 2017 05:26
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They're such horrible, evil people with their last four years of diplomacy and peacekeeping on Earth. Such a scourge.
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Jan 28, 2017 05:35
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...What...diplomacy and peacekeeping? Their little precious pet Ulysses threw the superhuman community into yet another war with his badly-written powers and their cloud is causing pain, suffering, and death across the planet. The most that Crystal's big ol' diplomatic ship has done is make not-North-Korea kind of angry. I'm seriously struggling to recall one single good thing they've done for the world and, look, we can only say "they gave us Kamala and Lunella" so many times before it doesn't count anymore.
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Jan 28, 2017 05:49
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They're at least moderately complicit in mutant genocide if their response to not being able to contain the cloud problem is 'welp, them's the breaks, tough luck muties but the cloud is sacred'. I'm surprised the nations of the world are completely chill with their citizens being inhuman'd and put under Medusa's watch. Are they chill with it?
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Jan 28, 2017 05:54
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Teenage Fansub posted:They're such horrible, evil people with their last four years of diplomacy and peacekeeping on Earth. Such a scourge. Yes. Yes they are. You've got some weird hard-on for the Inhumans but literally nothing they do can justify the current status quo.
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Jan 28, 2017 06:05
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They're chill with it because the Inhumans are total Yaas Queens.
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Jan 28, 2017 06:06
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...Is that becoming shorthand for 'character/s Marvel wants us to like'?
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Jan 28, 2017 06:15
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ImpAtom posted:You've got some weird hard-on for the Inhumans Yeah, I read Soule's comics and liked 'em. Bizarre.
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Jan 28, 2017 06:19
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ImpAtom posted:Yes. Yes they are. You've got some weird hard-on for the Inhumans but literally nothing they do can justify the current status quo. Yeah you can like the individual books and even the characters but objectively the SQ they are in makes them bad guys.
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Jan 28, 2017 06:19
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Teenage Fansub posted:Yeah, I read Soule's comics and liked 'em. Bizarre. You can't accept any criticism of them, it is indeed bizarre.
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Jan 28, 2017 06:20
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Clawtopsy posted:...Is that becoming shorthand for 'character/s Marvel wants us to like'? That's how I was using it!
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Jan 28, 2017 06:24
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Maybe soule is giving us a really bad allegory for child soldiers, hook em with a can't say no stuff and make them fight for a kingdom that doesn't give a poo poo about anything but self perpetuation I'd also like to apologize to divinecoffeebinge, I slipped on my alcoholism last night and was unnecessarily antagonistic last night and you didn't deserve it. I'm sorry site fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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Jan 28, 2017 06:28
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This reminds me of all those "moral choices" crpgs where both sides are really likeable but really want to do something unforgiveably monstrous that makes no sense and they refuse to talk it out.
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Clawtopsy posted:Okay, I don't follow Inhumans religiously because my hackles go up if I feel something is being pushed. I'm a contrary dick, sue me. But, the general outline of IvX is: You mixed up 1 and 2. Attilan was hovering near NYC and everybody was kinda okay with it because hey I guess this is just Marvel NYC and that's Tuesday for them. Then Thanos attacked, the whole purpose of which was to find his hidden Inhuman son whose powers had not been activated. Black Bolt set off a bomb, releasing the mists and dumping the city into the Hudson (or maybe the East) River, in order to activate the kid's Inhuman powers as a big "gently caress you" to Thanos. It's important to note that BB didn't run this plan by anybody so all the inhumans were kinda surprised to see their home blow up and their sacred crystals just kinda dissolve in a flash. It's also why BB is no longer king, because once you detonate your kingdom, you lose your peoples' support (also this was during Hickman's whole run and they found out he was blowing up alternate earths, which a lot of people weren't cool with). The Inhumans took what was left of their city, made lemonade out of the lemons and built a nation/embassy off the coast. And America is cool with it because... okay I don't think they ever gave a reason. Maybe Norman Osborn will blow it up, he tends to attack superhero nations on/hovering over America. Your #3a isn't exactly accurate either. The terrigen mutates people with hidden Inhuman DNA (almost like some sort of... X-gene? :iamafag:) and some get good powers and some get hosed. It really is a mutant-lite situation. Once all the Inhumans' powers activate, they have the choice to go to Clawtopsy posted:They're at least moderately complicit in mutant genocide if their response to not being able to contain the cloud problem is 'welp, them's the breaks, tough luck muties but the cloud is sacred'. They're not really, but the Inhumans have done their best to chart the cloud's course and do poo poo like give governments time to give warnings to areas that are in the cloud's path, since for a loving gas, in most comics it's been featured in it can be avoided by going inside. Like the start of Death of X was them approaching a city in Japan that's been given an evacuation notice. A lot of people seem to be rolling the dice and hanging around though (I guess a lot of people would if there's a chance for superpowers). CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah you can like the individual books and even the characters but objectively the SQ they are in makes them bad guys. It is not a status quo it is a contrivance set up to sell an event. BrianWilly posted:...What...diplomacy and peacekeeping? Their little precious pet Ulysses threw the superhuman community into yet another war with his badly-written powers and their cloud is causing pain, suffering, and death across the planet. The most that Crystal's big ol' diplomatic ship has done is make not-North-Korea kind of angry. I'm seriously struggling to recall one single good thing they've done for the world and, look, we can only say "they gave us Kamala and Lunella" so many times before it doesn't count anymore. Ulysses stopped a celestial, Captain Marvel's the one who decided to hook him up to a million TV screens and make him into a pre-crime machine
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