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Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

Bacon Taco posted:

Dammit, actual facts are causing me to wonder if I should stop reflexively hating Mark Davis and the Raiders. gently caress.

Well for one thing the murder of Biletnikoff's daughter in 1999 apparently wasn't enough to make the team vet Tom Cable before hiring him. Or enough to make them check out any violent tendencies after he punched out an assistant coach. I mean that or they didn't care, since it wasn't 'personal.'

To be fair Al Davis cited domestic violence as going into his decision to fire Cable, after employing him for four years. I'm sure it just took them a year and a half to figure it out after Outside the Lines did the footwork on finding out that he'd abused at least two women (and one coach's jaw). Performance and Al wanting to win another championship before he died had nothing to do with it.

e: I'm generally fine with the Davis family, but that's Warcrimes citing some Raiders PR work for them.

Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jan 27, 2017

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# ? May 29, 2024 11:10

Leperflesh: May 17, 2007

Grittybeard posted:

Well for one thing the murder of Biletnikoff's daughter in 1999 apparently wasn't enough to make the team vet Tom Cable before hiring him. Or enough to make them check out any violent tendencies after he punched out an assistant coach. I mean that or they didn't care, since it wasn't 'personal.'

To be fair Al Davis cited domestic violence as going into his decision to fire Cable, after employing him for four years. I'm sure it just took them a year and a half to figure it out after Outside the Lines did the footwork on finding out that he'd abused at least two women (and one coach's jaw). Performance and Al wanting to win another championship before he died had nothing to do with it.

e: I'm generally fine with the Davis family, but that's Warcrimes citing some Raiders PR work for them.

The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son

# ? Jan 27, 2017 21:24

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Also Al was petty as gently caress about Marcus Allen

# ? Jan 27, 2017 21:39

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Grittybeard posted:

Well for one thing the murder of Biletnikoff's daughter in 1999 apparently wasn't enough to make the team vet Tom Cable before hiring him. Or enough to make them check out any violent tendencies after he punched out an assistant coach. I mean that or they didn't care, since it wasn't 'personal.'

To be fair Al Davis cited domestic violence as going into his decision to fire Cable, after employing him for four years. I'm sure it just took them a year and a half to figure it out after Outside the Lines did the footwork on finding out that he'd abused at least two women (and one coach's jaw). Performance and Al wanting to win another championship before he died had nothing to do with it.

e: I'm generally fine with the Davis family, but that's Warcrimes citing some Raiders PR work for them.

PR or not it's the truth and the no DV thing is an ironclad policy under Mark.

a neat cape posted:

Also Al was petty as gently caress about Marcus Allen

He'd have strange feuds with his biggest stars(Stabler and Brown had falling outs, also). Nobody could be a bigger star than Al and the team, except Bo Jackson.

# ? Jan 27, 2017 22:06

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

I hated Al for his thing with Marcus Allen.

from everything I've heard though, Marcus Allen is not a good guy in real life.

# ? Jan 27, 2017 22:26

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

kiimo posted:

I hated Al for his thing with Marcus Allen.

from everything I've heard though, Marcus Allen is not a good guy in real life.

^ this is also true

# ? Jan 27, 2017 23:24

Proust Malone: Apr 4, 2008

Bacon Taco posted:

Dammit, actual facts are causing me to wonder if I should stop reflexively hating Mark Davis and the Raiders. gently caress.

I can't find the source but I remember another story about that accident when marquis cooper and some other NFL guys capsized their boat and three were still missing when the coast guard called off the search. Al Davis paid out of his own pocket to have charters continue searching.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 01:18

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Bacon Taco posted:

Dammit, actual facts are causing me to wonder if I should stop reflexively hating Mark Davis and the Raiders. gently caress.

Hate the Raiders and Al Davis because that's what Al Davis wanted.

All also wanted the Broncos, Chiefs, and Chargers to be good every year because he wanted winning the afc west to mean something

# ? Jan 28, 2017 01:23

Randaconda: Jul 3, 2014; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Al, like most humans not literally Hitler, was a mixture of good and bad, but drat it, he just wasn't as douchey as a lot of owners are/were. Also, suing the NFL, winning the case, then also winning the Super Bowl is some god tier trolling.

Randaconda fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 28, 2017

# ? Jan 28, 2017 02:31

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

whiteyfats posted:

Al, like most humans not literally Hitler, was a mixture of good and bad, but drat it, he just wasn't as douchey as a lot of owners are/were. Also, suing the NFL, winning the case, then also winning the Super Bowl is a some god tier trolling.

He took it up a notch when the NFL sued him, he won and won a large settlement from it. That he also forced the NFL to merge with the AFL(as Commish of the AFL, he green-lighted signing NFL stars) is underappreciated. He actually wanted to break the NFL but a couple of good ole boys brokered the merger behind his back.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 03:20

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

Please don't trigger me by calling Lamar Hunt a good ol boy

edit: even if he was from Texas.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 03:49

Darth Brooks: Jan 15, 2005; I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

a neat cape posted:

Hate the Raiders and Al Davis because that's what Al Davis wanted.

All also wanted the Broncos, Chiefs, and Chargers to be good every year because he wanted winning the afc west to mean something

You should want the other teams in your division to be good (but your team better).

# ? Jan 28, 2017 04:25

Chinatown: Sep 11, 2001; by Fluffdaddy; Fun Shoe

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 04:28

Zurreco: Dec 27, 2004; Cutty approves.

Chinatown posted:

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 04:53

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Chinatown posted:

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 04:59

Glass of Milk: Dec 22, 2004; to forgive is divine

Chinatown posted:

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 05:20

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Chinatown posted:

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 05:27

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

Chinatown posted:

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 05:59

Chichevache: Feb 17, 2010; One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

whiteyfats posted:

Al, like most humans not literally Hitler, was a mixture of good and bad, but drat it, he just wasn't as douchey as a lot of owners are/were. Also, suing the NFL, winning the case, then also winning the Super Bowl is some god tier trolling.

Hitler liked dogs, but I can't think of any good qualities in the Spanos family.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 05:59

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

kiimo posted:

I hated Al for his thing with Marcus Allen.

from everything I've heard though, Marcus Allen is not a good guy in real life.

Like that time he cheated on his fiance with his best friend's wife, and then kept banging her even after his best friend found out and told her if she ever saw Marcus again he'd murder her lol.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 08:17

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Volkerball posted:

Like that time he cheated on his fiance with his best friend's wife, and then kept banging her even after his best friend found out and told her if she ever saw Marcus again he'd murder her lol.

Good times, hopefully nothing happened to that woman

# ? Jan 28, 2017 08:38

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

AsInHowe posted:

Good times, hopefully nothing happened to that woman

gently caress off trash

# ? Jan 28, 2017 12:07

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

Nothing to lose your head over, dude.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 14:33

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

TBeats posted:

Nothing to lose your head over, dude.

Haha, holy poo poo that red text. For the record it wasn't me, I was just manufacturing a reason to post that Bill Murray thing.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 14:49

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

Grittybeard posted:

Haha, holy poo poo that red text. For the record it wasn't me, I was just manufacturing a reason to post that Bill Murray thing.

It's a badge of honor.

Much like the three rings Tom Brady won that Drew Bledsoe would have won had he never gotten hurt.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 14:52

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

TBeats posted:

It's a badge of honor.

Much like the three rings Tom Brady won that Drew Bledsoe would have won had he never gotten hurt.

2 rings.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 14:54

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Let's call it 2.5 rings, one of the Super Bowls would have ended in a tie after triple-overtime or whatever.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 15:00

Randaconda: Jul 3, 2014; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mega64 posted:

Let's call it 2.5 rings, one of the Super Bowls would have ended in a tie after triple-overtime or whatever.

...They couldn't let the Super Bowl end in a tie, could they?

# ? Jan 28, 2017 16:45

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

whiteyfats posted:

...They couldn't let the Super Bowl end in a tie, could they?

That happened in Australia for an AFL equivalent game.

They came back in a week and played the game again. It's kinda like, I think everyone was happy. Fans in the ground saw an amazing game, and everyone else got two games out of it :lol:

# ? Jan 28, 2017 18:04

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

whiteyfats posted:

...They couldn't let the Super Bowl end in a tie, could they?

I think at a certain point they will literally flip a coin.

# ? Jan 28, 2017 20:30

Knucklebear: Apr 19, 2005

Chinatown posted:

gently caress the Spanos family

# ? Jan 28, 2017 22:41

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

warcrimes posted:

gently caress off trash

What?

# ? Jan 29, 2017 05:32

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

AsInHowe posted:

What?

Is posting while drunk as gently caress still probateable? Asking for a friend(who apologizes for that rude post).

# ? Jan 29, 2017 07:52

GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007

i mean, good luck finding a mod who cares around here

# ? Jan 29, 2017 08:07

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

warcrimes posted:

Is posting while drunk as gently caress still probateable? Asking for a friend(who apologizes for that rude post).

Are you drunk? Why are you mad?

Is this pro Marcus Allen, or against?

# ? Jan 29, 2017 08:11

GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007

just call it nrrposting

# ? Jan 29, 2017 08:15

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

AsInHowe posted:

Are you drunk? Why are you mad?

Is this pro Marcus Allen, or against?

No, gently caress Marcus Allen. How I typed it looks like it was directed at you, which it wasn't but alcohol happened.

# ? Jan 29, 2017 12:02

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

Sister problems eh WC

# ? Jan 29, 2017 15:30

got any sevens: Feb 9, 2013; by Cyrano4747

Amy Pole Her posted:

Sister problems eh WC

I can empathize https://youtu.be/DDyybi7t634

# ? Jan 29, 2017 15:51

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Proust Malone: Apr 4, 2008

Adelson has pulled out of the Raiders Vegas project.

http://usat.ly/2jPpYFb

# ? Jan 31, 2017 03:36

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