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Frankston posted:I'm excited to see our new midfield going forward. It's a step up from Ashley "5 goals 11 assists in 147 games" Westwood. Everyone knows it was Nick Powell who was the real reason why Crewe got promoted to League One.
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straight up brolic posted:Apparently it might be in the form of Rhodes + cash tho
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hadji murad posted:Yes. Go on.
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Snodgrass to West http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38775507
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Frankston posted:Our midfield now consists of Adomah, Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason. Not sure about Bjarnason because he's come from Switzerland but the other three have all been very decent this season and are killing it for goals and assists. Hourihane has 6 goals 11 assists in 25 games, Lansbury has 6 goals 3 assists in 17, Adomah has 3 goals 5 assists in 20. Feels like Villa is building a Championship side. How long you figure you'll be down there?
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TheBigAristotle posted:Feels like Villa is building a Championship side. How long you figure you'll be down there?
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Polish Striker David Kownacki. Ever heard of him Mackintosh?
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Weaponized Cum posted:Snodgrass to West So that's two of the three relegation spots sorted then. Sunderland and Hull seem to have just given up entirely
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shut up blegum posted:Can anyone tell me something about Yuya Kubo? For starters, if that's a real name? He's a diminutive Japanese attacking mid / striker who was quite good in the mighty Swiss Super League!
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Pato is off to China, €18m transfer fee after Villareal paid €3m for him in the summer. Grenier had a medical with Roma, 6 month loan with a permanent option. I haven't paid much attention to Ligue 1 for a while, but he used to be quite good, hasn't really played this year though.
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trem_two posted:Pato is off to China, €18m transfer fee after Villareal paid €3m for him in the summer. What the hell is it with Chinese clubs and overpaying needlessly? £60m for Oscar for instance, why not offer £40-50m
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PirateBob posted:What the hell is it with Chinese clubs and overpaying needlessly? £60m for Oscar for instance, why not offer £40-50m Either money laundering or a gaudy conspicuous spending competition between billionaires. Maybe both.
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trem_two posted:Pato is off to China, €18m transfer fee after Villareal paid €3m for him in the summer. Think he'll get much time at Roma? Maybe while Salah is gone but eh, their attackers seem pretty set.
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trem_two posted:https://twitter.com/Mainz05en/status/825657145106497536 
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trem_two posted:https://twitter.com/Mainz05en/status/825657145106497536 What a stunning career arc.
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Bape Culture posted:For fucks sake. I'm seriously worried about this season if Gaston is on his way. Ffs fairly sure if ramirez leaves and jese dosen't come in adama will have to become insnaely good and sick insanely quick or we're insanely hosed.
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PirateBob posted:What the hell is it with Chinese clubs and overpaying needlessly? £60m for Oscar for instance, why not offer £40-50m Chinese currency bubble, people are trying to get their money out of the country as fast as possible
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ephex posted:Chinese currency bubble, people are trying to get their money out of the country as fast as possible Are you concerned about hitlr?
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he was the best player we've had in the modern era and our first ballon d'or candidate. I hope he goes home and has fun and plays good football. Lol at how badly Gold and Sullivan have hosed us, could've sent him to Inter in the summer for way more and we'd have been better off in the league
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ephex posted:Chinese currency bubble, people are trying to get their money out of the country as fast as possible By giving it away?
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Spangly A posted:he was the best player we've had in the modern era and our first ballon d'or candidate. I hope he goes home and has fun and plays good football. But gently caress him and his lack of effort when he was on the field this season.
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PirateBob posted:By giving it away? The overwhelming suspicion seems to be that they're laundering it. Agree to pay someone (worth $10m) $50m, actually pay them $20m, stash the other $30 in a Caribbean holding corporation. That's an oversimplification with made up numbers, but it captures the gist of it.
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Soulex posted:Polish Striker David Kownacki. Ever heard of him Mackintosh? Plays for Lech Poznan, pretty decent by Ekstraklasa standards, but he's young, not starting 11 material anywhere in Europe proper. But then again, neither was Zielinski and look at him now. Plenty of potential in this kid.
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TheQuietWilds posted:The overwhelming suspicion seems to be that they're laundering it. Agree to pay someone (worth $10m) $50m, actually pay them $20m, stash the other $30 in a Caribbean holding corporation. That's an oversimplification with made up numbers, but it captures the gist of it. its also a way to try and make themselves popular with the city they're in so that Xi doesn't have them quietly arrested as part of "corruption" crackdowns
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TheQuietWilds posted:The overwhelming suspicion seems to be that they're laundering it. Agree to pay someone (worth $10m) $50m, actually pay them $20m, stash the other $30 in a Caribbean holding corporation. That's an oversimplification with made up numbers, but it captures the gist of it. Yeah it's awfully suspicious that these Chinese clubs are a) offering so far above market value in both transfer fees and wages; b) making the amount they're paying so public; and c) not actually paying it in many cases (cf player complaints about unpaid wages). It feels a lot like money laundering in that respect. Sometimes maybe players, unscrupulous middlemen, or even foreign clubs are in on it (Chinese club agrees to buy a player for $80m when you were about to sell them for $30m, actually they pay you $40m and launder the other half in the Caymans kind of thing), sometimes maybe the selling clubs are getting stiffed as well. "Yeah of course Mr. Judge, I paid Chelsea $100m to sign Oscar and then paid him $500k a week for a year. What do you mean they say they only received $20m of the payments and he stopped receiving wages after two weeks? They're just lying, here look at my totally legitimate documentation."
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vyelkin posted:Yeah it's awfully suspicious that these Chinese clubs are a) offering so far above market value in both transfer fees and wages; b) making the amount they're paying so public; and c) not actually paying it in many cases (cf player complaints about unpaid wages). It feels a lot like money laundering in that respect. Sometimes maybe players, unscrupulous middlemen, or even foreign clubs are in on it (Chinese club agrees to buy a player for $80m when you were about to sell them for $30m, actually they pay you $40m and launder the other half in the Caymans kind of thing), sometimes maybe the selling clubs are getting stiffed as well. The consequences of doing something like that are so high in China (you almost certainly disappear, if not publicly tried and executed), that I can't imagine either the player or the foreign club isn't in on it. The sums of money are so huge, it seems like you'd have to be insane to try that without an inside guy on the other end getting a handsome kickback to forward the money through a club or personal account into some sort of untraceable holding. I'd guess that the players making noise are angling for a bigger piece of the back end.
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Are there any recent stories about players not getting paid in China? I know Drogba said that he hadn't been paid and used it at his reason for tearing up the contract and moving to Galatasaray, but that was some years ago now and just the one club. I mean, Dario Conca has been there for ages now as one of the highest paid players in the world so the money is obviously there.
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MrBling posted:Are there any recent stories about players not getting paid in China? Anelka got hosed around as well I think
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MrBling posted:Are there any recent stories about players not getting paid in China? it was almost certainly fuckery with the contracts not specifying an exact figure to be paid, since its known this was offered to a player, and agents wised up to it
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MrBling posted:Are there any recent stories about players not getting paid in China? It depends on what you mean by recent. (To the rest of you, I apologize for repeating an earlier post that I put in the thread.) Drogba and Anelka ran into issues in Shanghai: http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2012/10/16/could-soccer-stars-anelka-drogba-leave-china-empty-handed/ Others have had problems too: https://wildeastfootball.net/2014/02/qingdao-melkam-involved-in-match-fixingunpaid-wages-row/ http://uk.reuters.com/article/soccer-china-fifa-benko-idUKL4N0QP1G420140819 Australian players have run into issues as well and the disputes can take years to resolve: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...74a52552c2d04e6 quote:Though the vast majority has now been paid, some clubs still have to comply after cases pursued by Professional Footballers Australia (PFA) that can take up to two years to go through FIFA’s arbitration system. There's also a good Bloomberg story from December 2016 here about why these Chinese mega-transfers don't seem like a sustainable use of funds and why everyone's so suspicious about where the money is coming from: https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-12-20/chinese-soccer-party-deserves-an-oscar Brony Car fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 29, 2017 |
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kami posted:It stings less because it seems to be genuine homesickness and not trying to vault up to a better club. Extremely unlikely he's going to play OM into a European slot next season. Yeah in terms of stature it's a lateral move - I see Marseille pushing for a Europa League spot but CL football is out of the question this year. I think his family just didn't adjust to London.
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Wengy posted:He's a diminutive Japanese attacking mid / striker who was quite good in the mighty Swiss Super League! Saw him play for the first time yesterday, he seems quite good in the Jupiler Pro League too! Arrived on Wednesday, started and scored in an important game against rivals on Sunday. Not too bad 
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