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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
I bet the FIA has some fun-killing rule that bans nose art or anything vaguely artistic or fun from a car's livery. Driving cars round and round is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

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HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
I'm enough of a nerd to check

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
The Jordan shark nose and hornet nose are the best Jordan cars

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
Bernie is a saint who has been smeared by the fake news from the european media. He has always acted in the best interests of the sport, he doesn't care about money. I'm sure he doesn't even know how much money he has!!!

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll

poty posted:

Bernie is a saint who has been smeared by the fake news from the european media. He has always acted in the best interests of the sport, he doesn't care about money. I'm sure he doesn't even know how much money he has!!!

Bernie is Cool And Good

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

poty posted:

Bernie is a saint who has been smeared by the fake news from the european media. He has always acted in the best interests of the sport, he doesn't care about money. I'm sure he doesn't even know how much money he has!!!

Just you wait until F1 becomes the Red Bull Formula One Cup Presented By Trump Hotels. The sport is dead without Our Bern.

Myrddin_Emrys
Mar 27, 2007

by Hand Knit

poty posted:

Bernie is a saint who has been smeared by the fake news from the european media. He has always acted in the best interests of the sport, he doesn't care about money. I'm sure he doesn't even know how much money he has!!!

Username/post checks out

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Lol, German press are reporting the rumours are that Toto didn't want Whiirline's career "destroyed" by Lewis, and that he's always been in line for Lewis' seat and not Nico's.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
F1 racing voted Stoffel Vandoorne rookie of the year. Yes, the man with 1 race under his belt. Not to take anything away from his performance but it really says a lot about what fans think of the other rookies.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Human Grand Prix posted:

F1 racing voted Stoffel Vandoorne rookie of the year. Yes, the man with 1 race under his belt. Not to take anything away from his performance but it really says a lot about what fans think of the other rookies.

Hell I agree with them

Dumb Username
Oct 20, 2012
Not bad for a no. 2 driver

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
Drivers "Waffles" Stoffel Vandoorne tied or defeated in one race that had an entire season to fight him:

"Joyless" Palmer

"Clone baby of Nico and Lewis" Wehrlein

"Build a wall between him and the points and make Carlos slim pay for it" Gutierrez

"Wearing Van der gardes Suit" Ericson

"Inexplicably promoted" Ocon

And finally

"Muslim Banned" Haryanto.

Waffles is a good lad, real MWDC potential.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Jan 30, 2017

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Drivers "Waffles" Stoffel Vandoorne tied or defeated in one race that had an entire season to fight him:

"Joyless" Palmer

"Clone baby of Nico and Lewis" Wehrlein

"Build a wall between him and the points and make Carlos slim pay for it" Gutierrez

"Wearing Van der gardes Suit" Ericson

"Inexplicably promoted" Ocon

And finally

"Muslim Banned" Haryanto.

Waffles is a good lad, real MWDC potential.

You've named 2 drivers who weren't rookies and 2 more who didn't have a full season.

All garbage drivers of course.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Where are the tax returns, Bernie?

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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learnincurve posted:

Lol, German press are reporting the rumours are that Toto didn't want Whiirline's career "destroyed" by Lewis, and that he's always been in line for Lewis' seat and not Nico's.

Either that rumour is pure bullshit or I've grossly overestimated The Determinator's canniness.

Makes you think though. Young Wherlein certainly displays some of the early stage petulantitis traits of Hamwallet.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

and none of the talent.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Carth Dookie posted:

and none of the talent.

Put him in the Merc and watch how little that actually matters.

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

Human Grand Prix posted:

F1 racing voted Stoffel Vandoorne rookie of the year. Yes, the man with 1 race under his belt. Not to take anything away from his performance but it really says a lot about what fans think of the other rookies.

The rookies of 2016 achieved absolutely nothing. Stoffel only got it because he's the latest "better than Jesus" kid. Give him a year of achieving nothing in the McLaren and he'll be another Kevin Magnussen; sat in the background, drenched in his own tears and Max Verstappen's pee-pee.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

the bright yellow Benson-Hedges Jordans with some form of Honda in the back were definitely a highlight of late '90s/early 2000s F1. Especially once they got factory Honda engines and Sato and Suzuka specials with far more power than the ol' chassis could handle. And look at those late '90s cars and how much sponsorship they had, those really were the days.

Jordan was the better Honda factory team, the BAR team was boring as sin until they became Brawn.

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

harperdc posted:

the bright yellow Benson-Hedges Jordans with some form of Honda in the back were definitely a highlight of late '90s/early 2000s F1. Especially once they got factory Honda engines and Sato and Suzuka specials with far more power than the ol' chassis could handle. And look at those late '90s cars and how much sponsorship they had, those really were the days.

Jordan was the better Honda factory team, the BAR team was boring as sin until they became Brawn.

Jordan was a "fun" team (well, as much as an F1 team can be fun)

There isn't really an equivalent these days. I remember going to the Jordan parties in the paddock at Silverstone in 1996 and 1997 and it was a great laugh. A stage made out of the back of a truck, Eddie sharing the drums with Roger Taylor, Damon on guitar and various F1 drivers trying to sing. All while people handed out free vodka mixed with this weird new drink called Red Bull.

http://imgur.com/a/l5h99

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



harperdc posted:

And look at those late '90s cars and how much sponsorship they had, those really were the days.


Thats always the biggest thing you see the "under funded" teams like minardi with a bunch of sponsors and now half the grid is blank car or literally writing sponsor begging on their cars (that's a cool spot)

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

The Croc posted:

Thats always the biggest thing you see the "under funded" teams like minardi with a bunch of sponsors and now half the grid is blank car or literally writing sponsor begging on their cars (that's a cool spot)

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Alex-Yoong-Minardi-2002.jpg

Look at that. There's literally no more space on the front of that car.

Bear in mind, this was from a period before the global markets shat the bed and companies could afford to spunk money up the wall to get a piece of F1 action.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Brainwrong posted:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Alex-Yoong-Minardi-2002.jpg

Look at that. There's literally no more space on the front of that car.

Bear in mind, this was from a period before the global markets shat the bed and companies could afford to spunk money up the wall to get a piece of F1 action.

If Liberty do what they say they're going to do and drive up global viewership figures (specifically in the US) then we may yet see a return to the halcyon days of sponsorship. Companies are still basically tripping over their own dicks burn money for a prime spot Superbowl ad, so the money is most definitely out there. I'd wager they're just no longer willing to contribute to a sport that has dwindling eyeballs whilst competitors piss inordinate amounts of money against the wall on meaningless (beyond the bubble that is F1, at least) technological developments.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Part of it too has just been marketing trends over the past 10-15 years, unless you're creating a "personal" experience with the consumer or "engaging" with them through some stupid app there's like zero interest in a sponsorship deal.

If you put together a 8-9 figure multi year title sponsorship deal today odds are the next investors call you'd have some wall street exec screaming at you how that'd be an extra half cent dividend per share each quarter or something.

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Jul 22, 2014

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1500quidporsche posted:

Part of it too has just been marketing trends over the past 10-15 years, unless you're creating a "personal" experience with the consumer or "engaging" with them through some stupid app there's like zero interest in a sponsorship deal.

If you put together a 8-9 figure multi year title sponsorship deal today odds are the next investors call you'd have some wall street exec screaming at you how that'd be an extra half cent dividend per share each quarter or something.


That's why the Paddock Club and corporate hospitality benefits for sponsors exist. Ain't no average Joes dropping 5 large on a paddock pass to sit and listen to Kimi do a monosyllabic Q&A or Checo barely string a coherent sentence together.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Reminder that F1 only had bernie handling sponsors and no marketing department.

Also the formula 1 sponsors representative on the FIA world council quit his position to go get yelled at by some sinister twat in a comfy jumper two years ago, and Bernie hasn't bothered to fill that position.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Theophany posted:

That's why the Paddock Club and corporate hospitality benefits for sponsors exist. Ain't no average Joes dropping 5 large on a paddock pass to sit and listen to Kimi do a monosyllabic Q&A or Checo barely string a coherent sentence together.

And this is the exact problem. Bernie's idea of getting sponsors is giving the sponsors a nice experience to pay for 20 times a year rather than developing a product with an enthusiastic audience for the sponsors to actually advertise to.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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Tsaedje posted:

And this is the exact problem. Bernie's idea of getting sponsors is giving the sponsors a nice experience to pay for 20 times a year rather than developing a product with an enthusiastic audience for the sponsors to actually advertise to.

Absolutely. They're two pieces of the same puzzle that F1 has rear end-backward. The whole corporate hospitality razzmatazz is a sweetener for sponsors to use as part of their business operations and doesn't cost FOM or the promoter much in relative terms.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Brainwrong posted:

The rookies of 2016 achieved absolutely nothing. Stoffel only got it because he's the latest "better than Jesus" kid. Give him a year of achieving nothing in the McLaren and he'll be another Kevin Magnussen; sat in the background, drenched in his own tears and Max Verstappen's pee-pee.

Vandoor is a better racing car driver than KMAG

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Norns posted:

Vandoor is a better racing car driver than KMAG

Kmag got on the podium his first race. Judging Vandoorne already is very premature.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
KMag sucks poo poo

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
KMag is the new Greatest American, second only to RGro the Greatest American, he cannot be maligned here

djssniper
Jan 10, 2003


Theophany posted:

That's why the Paddock Club and corporate hospitality benefits for sponsors exist. Ain't no average Joes dropping 5 large on a paddock pass to sit and listen to Kimi do a monosyllabic Q&A or Checo barely string a coherent sentence together.

Thats what I love about LeMans the pitlane is open for the fans till racing commences

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


So in other words, f1 became exactly what it always was: a sport for rich dudes with too much cash and not enough sense.

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Jul 22, 2014

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iospace posted:

So in other words, f1 became exactly what it always was: a sport for rich dudes with too much cash and not enough sense.

Well yeah, but you miss out the quality shitposting when you put it like that...

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


The Croc posted:

Thats always the biggest thing you see the "under funded" teams like minardi with a bunch of sponsors and now half the grid is blank car or literally writing sponsor begging on their cars (that's a cool spot)

The cars that are half blank are generating several orders of magnitude more sponsor revenue than teams were in the past, even though the cars had more sponsor logos on them.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Newey says Verstappen reminds him of Nigel Mansell. Hell, I agree. They both suck rear end and deserve to recreate that crash at the end of "Grand Prix" where a car flies off the Monza banking and into a tree.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Alain Post posted:

Newey says Verstappen reminds him of Nigel Mansell.

I don't think somebody has evaluated Verstappen as accurately and succinctly before but I 100% agree with that assessment.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Verstappen is funny though.

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

Alain Post posted:

They both suck rear end and deserve to recreate that crash at the end of "Grand Prix" where a car flies off the Monza banking and into a tree.
But in that case, the guy crashing was the likable guy

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